Do you guys rec'd mars hydro 1600 watt led lights? sure are cheap...

PurpleBuz said:

all light eventually gets converted into heat, it may be stored or converted but eventually it gets dissipated as heat. The primary difference which is what you guys don't understand is that different sources convert into light as opposed to heat more efficiently than others and some conversion process store the energy before its converted to heat. but none of that changes the fact that the energy eventually gets dissipated .basic law of entropy

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Darth Vapour said:

First of realstyless you should be careful really careful at what you say or do ,, specially in this era of i sue , you sue and other people suing with that said MArs does grow there not claiming there the best of the best and there are thousands of satisfied customers but you keep going on the track your doing it might bite you in the ass
posting vids trying to wreck a mars unit only showed everyone there built rather tough or your just a fem ..
But something you might want to be aware of being you seem to think you can keep thinking your going to hurt them by constantly bothering other forums
Think of Libel or defamation be the last place i would want to be in court with specially with a a corporation or company
one can find them selfs living under a bridge rather fast yeah think ????
So please carry on with your slander who knows may be mars will crush you like a ant like you are .. how much you wanna bet that be a hot topic in any forum cause that is exactly what your trying to do spread your mis labeled beliefs
Does mars work ??? sure it does is it cheap that is the name of the game make it affordable to consumers but at the end of the day its libel and slander what you are doing

Tread carefully

PS you can also say slander but really i really want you to keep dong what your doing specially on social media spread the word man do it cause seriously that is even worse then verbal slandering And why cause you would be a perfect example and deserve everything you get
Libel and Slander
Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as acorporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is anydefamation that is spoken and heard.

Collectively known as defamation, libel and slander are civil wrongs that harm a reputation; decrease respect, regard, orconfidence; or induce disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against an individual or entity. The injuryto one's good name or reputation is affected through written or spoken words or visual images. The laws governing thesetorts are identical.

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Darth Vapour said:

lets see here what evidence mars may have against you Real styless

To recover in a libel or slander suit, the plaintiff must show evidence of four elements: that the defendant conveyed adefamatory message; that the material was published, meaning that it was conveyed to someone other than the plaintiff;that the plaintiff could be identified as the person referred to in the defamatory material; and that the plaintiff sufferedsome injury to his or her reputation as a result of the communication.

To prove that the material was defamatory, the plaintiff must show that at least one other person who saw or heard itunderstood it as having defamatory meaning. It is necessary to show not that all who heard or read the statementunderstood it to be defamatory, but only that one person other than the plaintiff did so. Therefore, even if the defendantcontends that the communication was a joke, if one person other than the plaintiff took it seriously, the communication isconsidered defamatory.

your hooped realstyles your tube vid with the auther of realstyles postings on this site and others hell i would be go as witness that from your posts i read it just like it dam with slow sales maybe mars throws that it cause you posted vids and posted threads defaming them there sales are down lol man seriously list goes on shit i should email mars personally and say shit man sue em we know that your worth nothing but the point being is proved you are a idiot and hell maybe ban from all internet forums or social media what a lonely life you wold have sitting in your tent

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Darth Vapour said:

in this day n age and most importantly how the world turns its all about money..
On the Internet, where abnormal behavior is the status quo, tempers
can flare in the heat of debate and word wars can last for days or
even weeks. It's not uncommon for users to ridicule, harass or insult
those who disagree with them.

But if you damage someone's reputation by trying to embarrass them in
a public forum, you could be sued for libel or defamation. After all,
there's no reason to assume that the messages you send through
cyberspace are immune from lawsuits.
one should be cautious when pressing the enter button either way and it don't matter if its corporation or small business or another person in RS situation he is going from forum to forum like his posts above said even mods are warning him not to post it here is a post that everyone hates him lol WTF is it cause know one cares or can be bothered in his posts etc


REALSTYLESActive Farmer
I'm hated because I speak the truth I have haters hating and lying on me. I was gonna start a DIY LES thread but I was lied on so good luck guys. I'll let the lies and cons get you. You guys better thank the admin on this. I'll just not post anymore and I won't share what I know and let the lies rip people off. I'm done with this site sorry guys who wanted toknow how to build lights.

His threads litterally have 0 replies and why ??? cause no body cares simple grow with what you got and be happy since RS did his diy cob he figures he should be looked up upon like he is some grow god
But to constantly Bash Mars is just plain stupid and really looking for trouble one thing is saying something like yeah i used them they grow but just was not happy with them since i became diy coblin grower its day and night Yo REALSTYLES so is the price you say it cost 700 / 800 to buid how many watt 340 ?? i think turned down tho not sure how much
i wonder what would yield more two mars 900 watt for 700 bucks same money spent would that 342 watt or what ever beat it in yield probably not but again who cares



Toaster79Well-Known Farmer
So long and thanks for all the fish.

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ShirkGoldbrick said:

@churchhaze I think the context of this entire discussion is wrong.

You have resistive heating, whereby at most you can have 100% efficient heating.

Then you have light. Light is not heat.

When looking at efficiency of different light fixtures you're looking at (ideally) their ability to convert electricity into light. If the fixture is 60% efficient then you get 60% light and 40% resistive heat.

However, I can take a 600 W 100% efficient light and put it in an ideally insulated chamber. I can take a 600 W resistive heater and put it in an ideally insulated chamber. I can take a 600 W 60% efficienct light and put it in an ideally insulated chamber. They will all heat up the chamber the same amount.

Why? Light is energy, energy can not be created or destroyed. The light hits the surface of the insulation, the energy is absorbed and dissipated back out as heat.

So why aren't we growing plants with resistive heaters?

Plants are able to absorb light, not heat, albeit to a point - 85 degrees F at 1200 ppm CO2 up to 2000 umol/s can be absorbed by cannabis, so heat does play a factor. They can't absorb as much light at lower temperatures.

This light is absorbed by the plant and the energy is used to help the plant grow - it is not turned back into heat until you smoke it or it composts.

The ideal light would be 100% efficient and it would be able to deliver 2000 umol/s to a plant that was capable of utilizing all of this light. There would be no heat generated from this system. This would never happen - the light dissipates heat as it travels through the air even due to the same aforementioned principles it did with the insulation. However, if it did - you would then need to use some sort of heater to keep temps at 85 degrees.

Today's lights are no where near this efficiency - in order to deliver the amount of light the plants require they are producing well over the necessary amount of heat for optimal growth.

Perhaps in the future someone can genetically engineer a virus that will insert the DNA of a bacterium from well below the earth's surface which does use heat to grow and insert it into plants - global.warming.solved.

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Darth Vapour said:

First of realstyless you should be careful really careful at what you say or do ,, specially in this era of i sue , you sue and other people suing with that said MArs does grow there not claiming there the best of the best and there are thousands of satisfied customers but you keep going on the track your doing it might bite you in the ass
posting vids trying to wreck a mars unit only showed everyone there built rather tough or your just a fem ..
But something you might want to be aware of being you seem to think you can keep thinking your going to hurt them by constantly bothering other forums
Think of Libel or defamation be the last place i would want to be in court with specially with a a corporation or company
one can find them selfs living under a bridge rather fast yeah think ????
So please carry on with your slander who knows may be mars will crush you like a ant like you are .. how much you wanna bet that be a hot topic in any forum cause that is exactly what your trying to do spread your mis labeled beliefs
Does mars work ??? sure it does is it cheap that is the name of the game make it affordable to consumers but at the end of the day its libel and slander what you are doing

Tread carefully

PS you can also say slander but really i really want you to keep dong what your doing specially on social media spread the word man do it cause seriously that is even worse then verbal slandering And why cause you would be a perfect example and deserve everything you get
Libel and Slander
Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as acorporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is anydefamation that is spoken and heard.

Collectively known as defamation, libel and slander are civil wrongs that harm a reputation; decrease respect, regard, orconfidence; or induce disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against an individual or entity. The injuryto one's good name or reputation is affected through written or spoken words or visual images. The laws governing thesetorts are identical.

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werm11 said:

LOL @ YOU SIR LOL

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alesh said:

Had to read it twice to believe that someone would post it lol. Mars is shit! At least there's some fun

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Darth Vapour said:

does MArs grow weed ??

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Darth Vapour said:

what do you classify as shit ??

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Darth Vapour said:

curious what do you use for lighting ?

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