Does freewill exist?

Does freewill exist?


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Trolling or really struggling with life. Definitely has an issue with a "god" so to speak as well. Actually hope he is trolling. That level of arrogance won't serve him well in life. I can't imagine his interactions he speaks of generally go very smoothly. He will find direction one day.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Trolling or really struggling with life. Definitely has an issue with a "god" so to speak as well. Actually hope he is trolling. That level of arrogance won't serve him well in life. I can't imagine his interactions he speaks of generally go very smoothly. He will find direction one day.
it only seems like arrogance to you, and the guy kissing your ass. i found direction a long time ago. it's to find ignorant people and annoy them as much as they annoy the rest of the world...got two on my hook right now, looks like i'm living in two heads rent free at the same time...but they're both kind of small, may knock out a few walls, add a couple of skylights...
 

JamieThePainter

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it only seems like arrogance to you, and the guy kissing your ass. i found direction a long time ago. it's to find ignorant people and annoy them as much as they annoy the rest of the world...got two on my hook right now, looks like i'm living in two heads rent free at the same time...but they're both kind of small, may knock out a few walls, add a couple of skylights...
Troll elsewhere, champ. You're in a philosophy thread calling philosophers slackers. Awesome how you seem to think you represent the whole world. Delusions of grandeur much?
 

StonedGardener

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If no freewill exists , what the Hell is the purpose of having a life. I do realize that are shit-tons of " sick " people and other unfortunate souls that freewill eludes
 

Dreaming1

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Free will? About what? I could take my guns to some church today, or a store and open fire. I wouldn't choose to do so. So, is that choice actually available? I could choose to have homosexual sex even though I am heterosexual. I dont want to. Not what I would choose. So, is that choice available to me? Same with stimulants or opiates. Not my bag. I wouldn't choose that.
So if you have free will, go get loaded on hard drugs and offer sex to some ugly strangers. Otherwise your free will means nothing and you enslaved by your programming. People are Meat machines with no autonomy. Bacterium. Ants. Monkeys. Sorry about it.
 

Dreaming1

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If no freewill exists , what the Hell is the purpose of having a life?
Indeed. We have no choice. Life is something that HAPPENED TO YOU. Not something you chose. You will be plucked from it with zero say also. You are free to breathe, eat, shit, fuck, and die. Same as all other sentient animals here on Earth. Choose your own adventure, Or react to the situations thrust upon you by outside forces?
 

Callisto405

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Can freewill exist alongside predeterminism/predestination? Like can I have freewill while being predestined to have freewill? Or like can I be predetermined to choose? Does anybody ever recall being given an infinite amount of options to choose from? And before we all were alive, did we have freewill then? If not, how could it make sense that out of nowhere we were suddenly given freewill or that we suddenly found freewill?
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Nixs

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Free will? About what? I could take my guns to some church today, or a store and open fire. I wouldn't choose to do so. So, is that choice actually available? I could choose to have homosexual sex even though I am heterosexual. I dont want to. Not what I would choose. So, is that choice available to me? Same with stimulants or opiates. Not my bag. I wouldn't choose that.
So if you have free will, go get loaded on hard drugs and offer sex to some ugly strangers. Otherwise your free will means nothing and you enslaved by your programming. People are Meat machines with no autonomy. Bacterium. Ants. Monkeys. Sorry about it.
Why not have the free will to share some money with a family that needs it bad? I would choose to do so :fire:
 

Dreaming1

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Why not have the free will to share some money with a family that needs it bad? I would choose to do so :fire:
If you have the money go for it. If you are in the same position, then you Cant have access to the option. No free energy. No free will.
You could have chosen not to respond. But your strings were pulled, and you reacted to emotion. I tossed a pebble, waves were formed, you were moved.
 

DrBuzzFarmer

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Can freewill exist alongside predeterminism/predestination? Like can I have freewill while being predestined to have freewill? Or like can I be predetermined to choose? Does anybody ever recall being given an infinite amount of options to choose from? And before we all were alive, did we have freewill then? If not, how could it make sense that out of nowhere we were suddenly given freewill or that we suddenly found freewill?
Does the character in a video game have more of a life than the NPCs?
Consciousness exists behind the subject/object split, and is thus the Ground of All Being.
You exist independent of both the subject and object, and thus must be projecting the split for some reason not yet understood.
The implication science is giving us, is that we live in a simulation, That none of what we see or experience exists outside of our conscious thought.
We are sleepers, daydreaming.
You, as the Subject or Object, will play out the Will of Consciousness, with no understanding of why or how.
There is no Freedom for you.
Freedom is an illusion you have spun around yourself.
 
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