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woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Grow'N'Smoke said:
I don't know if there is a standard, but I remove any leaves that wont have room, or be tall enough, to get their full surface area on the screen. As far as chopping branches, I follow Uncle Ben's topping technique for 4 tops, and I have never had a branch not make it to the screen.

With so much branching be sure that you leave the plant room to grow once you put it into flowering. Indicas can double and most sativas more than triple in size when their light cycle is changed.

I keep an eye on this thread, but feel free to pm me with questions, I'll do my best to give you good advice.

- Grow'N'Smoke
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Can you show us a photo please. I would like to see your grow......

The focus is not at the screen. It is above it. It is the potential of a plant in an even canopy with a filled space.

When growing scrog, I am better suited if concerned about how to cut down the extra growth that overgrows my screen, rather than leaving enough room for "maybe" growth during flowering. Unless you know your strain well enough to plan for it, its better to over do.

Comparing two photos makes it evident. Find and under filled screen photo, and an over filled screen (if you can find one) and compare. You will instantly know which problem you would rather have! ;-)
 
woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Notice: This set up uses a string screen at/above the canopy in order to combat leaning. The same method can be applied to a scrog that has tall colas which lean.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

GreatwhiteNorth

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Jay_normous said:
I'm confused as how that could be called a screen of green...
Nice though..!!
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that is not a SCROG, I believe what he was saying was that the string laced above the plants is to "hold their heads up" when they get heavy with Bud, and that you can do the same thing in SCROG if necessary.
I myself have to help some of my girls as they tend to get top heavy (and I just love top heavy girls)
GWN
 
Grow'N'Smoke

Grow'N'Smoke

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woodsmantoker said:
Can you show us a photo please. I would like to see your grow......
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Currently I am not growing, I just moved and am in the process of building a grow space.

woodsmantoker said:
The focus is not at the screen. It is above it. It is the potential of a plant in an even canopy with a filled space.
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Actually, I was answering a question and the focus was under the screen.

woodsmantoker said:
When growing scrog, I am better suited if concerned about how to cut down the extra growth that overgrows my screen, rather than leaving enough room for "maybe" growth during flowering. Unless you know your strain well enough to plan for it, its better to over do.

Comparing two photos makes it evident. Find and under filled screen photo, and an over filled screen (if you can find one) and compare. You will instantly know which problem you would rather have! [ /QUOTE]

Anybody who has grown knows that there is ALWAYS significant growth at the beginning of flowering.

With a low Watt bulb and limited grow area it is important not to allow your plants to overgrow. To much plant mass in too small of an area restricts access to the plant and the screen. And can easily become more plant then your light can handle.

I'll leave you to your tread because I can tell that I am offending you by giving advice. But before i go I have some advice for you. Get off your high horse and realize that you are not the only person that knows how to grow, and certainly not the only person entitled to give advice. Anyway, have fun attempting to bash anybody else that attempts to improve your thread.

-Grow'N'Smoke
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GreatwhiteNorth

GreatwhiteNorth

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I'll leave you to your tread because I can tell that I am offending you by giving advice. But before i go I have some advice for you. Get off your high horse and realize that you are not the only person that knows how to grow, and certainly not the only person entitled to give advice. Anyway, have fun attempting to bash anybody else that attempts to improve your thread.
-Grow'N'Smoke[/QUOTE]

Hey dude, swing your purse at somebody else - Woodsman is a very intelligent and helpful resource & you are not helping things.
Take your whining elsewhere.
Goodby.
GWN
 
woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Comment: "I'm confused as how that could be called a screen of green...
Nice though..!!"

Response: By no means is it! The photo you are commenting about is simply to show a idea where a screening/support plane was created in order to support tall buds/plants at heights where leaning may become and issue. This concept can also be applied to scrog. It is often that I find a sativa that I would like to scrog however in that stretch is at its greatest during the first parts of flowering, it is important to address leaning/shading of towering colas. An additional support screen such as the one in the photo can be a huge help! *tip: for taller colas, fill your screen before flowering allowing growth above the screen to gain height over the screen before switching (remove lower growth just prior to 12-12).
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woodsmantoker

woodsmantoker

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Jay_normous said:
Can someone give me some advice....
This is my second scrog attempt...
I feel the canopy is growing to high up from the screen.
Reason I say this is i think there are buds being covered by leaves..
I know there re arguements for leaving and removing leaves, certaintly ones that cover buds...
I was thinking of leaving it for 2 weeks and see if the other buds make it through to the light...
what do you think..?

Thanks in advance..:bigjoint:
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How did I miss ya buddy!?
Sorry bout that!

Well it looks great! You should be fine, certainly you can remove the growth below the screen, however I think the argument is "when?".

Removing the leaf that covers bud sites will slow the stretch and deliver light to the site. Leaving it will trigger the plants response to stretch giving space between internodes. (as to how much will be strain dependent, and of course effected by the light distance from canopy)
 
1badmasonman

1badmasonman

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Hey scroggers been lurkin here for a few days. I havent started my journal yet but im gonna be a scrog set up. Ill explain a little about my set up.

Room is 14' by 8' framed into my funky limestone basement.
2 600 watt hps mh
The room is sealed but i have very good ventialtion.
Within the room i have built a veg/clone/mother cab 3' by 4' which vents into the main room.
I am still in remod after my last grow as you will see in my pics. This grow im going from soil to hydro which will be a 12 bucket DWC crossed with an EBB & FLOW system. I will be plumbing all buckets together and filling draining via a 55 gal reservoir which gravity feeds buckets. A pump will be used to drain back to res.

So without further chit chat heres my room. Enjoy:joint:


I give you permission to enter.


This is the veg/clone/mother cab.


My DIY light hanger.


Raise up the lights.


The brakes.


Thats it for this part.


Ive got alotta pics so ill just show a few more. This is my flower room under remod but nearly finished.


This is my ventilation set up.
got an equal sized fresh air intake on opposite side of room.




These are my last 3 seedlings BC Purps. Starting over fresh this time. I had a plant go hermie and seed my whole last crop early on. Out of these 3 i will be trying to get a good mother to clone from. Got a long way to go.

Tell me what you think.
 
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