Flipping to flower?

Cappuchino · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
Vendor/breeder for autos?

Spanish Sweet Seeds has wide range of autos. I grew 5 +Speed (https://www.rollitup.org/t/simultaneous-grow.997624/post-15211553 for example) and I have Cream Mandarin Auto XXL for my next grow.
Advanced Seeds (I thin Spanish as well). I grew Auto Strawberry Gum and I have photo version of it on the schedule after autos.
If you in USA, there are enough breeders making autos. You can try to find Doctor's Choice autos in Canada: XXL versions can be 1,5-2m high.

JoeBlow5823 · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
No quality or potency difference? That’s good to hear! First timer.

where did you get your seeds?

I definitely get better quality/potency from the photos ive done. Seems like most photo breeders put out pretty damn good genetics while only a select couple of auto breeders put out quality. Photos give you so many more options for training and you can grow them to be whatever size and shape you want. Photos are also more forgiving. You can plant photo seeds under 12/12 light schedule and they will basically grow and yield just like an auto (i know this because i tossed a seed in a pot at the start of flower last grow; Yield was on par with the autos ive grown and quality was better). The only purpose i see for autos is cold climates. If you need to harvest by mid september, autos are the way to go for sure. I also see autos as something ya motha could plant a couple of on the deck or patio and it be fun for her where photos just get to god damn big for the average "balcony plant"

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 23, 2020

This was probably the best auto I've grown, was a cheap cheesecale from the bakery seeds. She was grown under a single ts1000

still_smoked · Oct 23, 2020

JoeBlow5823 said:
I definitely get better quality/potency from the photos ive done. Seems like most photo breeders put out pretty damn good genetics while only a select couple of auto breeders put out quality. Photos give you so many more options for training and you can grow them to be whatever size and shape you want. Photos are also more forgiving. You can plant photo seeds under 12/12 light schedule and they will basically grow and yield just like an auto (i know this because i tossed a seed in a pot at the start of flower last grow; Yield was on par with the autos ive grown and quality was better). The only purpose i see for autos is cold climates. If you need to harvest by mid september, autos are the way to go for sure. I also see autos as something ya motha could plant a couple of on the deck or patio and it be fun for her where photos just get to god damn big for the average "balcony plant"

In that perspective, for sure I can see an auto as a be if it in that way. Mine was due too sooner harvest and that I only have one space (2.5x5’ tent). If I had more space I would of went with photos to get a mom and run clones to save money on seeds.

But I’m indoor and didn’t think that running a shorter veg time on a photo would basically do just that. But then you will need to know the genetics of the plant. Like if the growth it’ll make within the veg time support the flower and so forth.

I’m in my first grow right now, so I’m kind of shooting in the dark with knowing the physicality's of individual strains.

still_smoked · Oct 23, 2020

Greenthumbgrower1986 said:
This was probably the best auto I've grown, was a cheap cheesecale from the bakery seeds. She was grown under a single ts1000

JEEESH! That’s some fat colas! That was a nice auto!

did you do any training or just let it ride?

still_smoked · Oct 23, 2020

Cappuchino said:
Spanish Sweet Seeds has wide range of autos. I grew 5 +Speed (https://www.rollitup.org/t/simultaneous-grow.997624/post-15211553 for example) and I have Cream Mandarin Auto XXL for my next grow.
Advanced Seeds (I thin Spanish as well). I grew Auto Strawberry Gum and I have photo version of it on the schedule after autos.
If you in USA, there are enough breeders making autos. You can try to find Doctor's Choice autos in Canada: XXL versions can be 1,5-2m high.

Those were some nice buds! My space is small so I definitely want to utilize the space the best I can. From the looks of it, the plant was really short. What’s was the end dry weight?

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
JEEESH! That’s some fat colas! That was a nice auto!

did you do any training or just let it ride?

Just a little lst. Problem I have with autos is any minor set backs really affect yield and quality. With photos any issues that happen in veg can be sorted before they are flipped

Oldreefer · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
How do obtain your autos and are they fems or regs.

first timer here in the first week of my grow. Running 2 auto og from humboldt.

do you have both autos and photo under same light space and sched?If so, do you see no difference from an auto that is under a higher light on schedule like 24/0 or 18/6 compared when you run a “normal” schedule for your photo that’s in the same space?

what are auto cobs? Nice! Ok then I should be good in a 2.5x5 with the HLG 600

When I started growing, I mostly grew regs but soon switched to fems. I acquire beans from attitude at times but recently get my autos from reputable usa seedbanks like rocbudinc and mephisto.

Yes, I run autos and photos in the same space under the same schedule...12/12. Been doing it year in year out for 15 years....Yes I've compared 12/12 to 24/0 and everything in between. Yes, yeilds increase with more light but costs do also and the % increase in cost is not justified by increase of yeild. I retired from a profession that required decisions based on statistics and the bottom line #s just don't justify more cost.

Autocobs...check out cobshop . I run a autocob 55w and a 75w rapidled cob. QB has kinda pushed the aside but cobs are still come beef makers and much more adjustable.

Cappuchino · Oct 23, 2020

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Greenthumbgrower1986 said:
This was probably the best auto I've grown, was a cheap cheesecale from the bakery seeds. She was grown under a single ts1000

That's impressing!

Cappuchino · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
Those were some nice buds! My space is small so I definitely want to utilize the space the best I can. From the looks of it, the plant was really short. What’s was the end dry weight?

I grow in a bit smaller then 2x2ft closet, 2 plants max. Dry weight was 36 grams (1 and 1/4 oz) after about 9 weeks. Yes, I LSTed hell out of it because there is only 2 feets from top of the pot to lights at max height.
My first grow gave me around 50 grams (almost 2 oz) dry buds from +Speed after 12 weeks: https://www.rollitup.org/t/can-you-rate-my-girls.976939/post-14551487
I watched Auto discussion somewhere on this chanel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFACkeFHeEww8m0bt5Ug7ZQ and guy said that autos start to flower as soon as roots hit the bottom of the pot or get stressed a lot. Growing in a bigger pot will result in a bigger plant. I have never tried XXL versions yet.
Watch this:

still_smoked · Oct 23, 2020

Oldreefer said:
When I started growing, I mostly grew regs but soon switched to fems. I acquire beans from attitude at times but recently get my autos from reputable usa seedbanks like rocbudinc and mephisto.

Yes, I run autos and photos in the same space under the same schedule...12/12. Been doing it year in year out for 15 years....Yes I've compared 12/12 to 24/0 and everything in between. Yes, yeilds increase with more light but costs do also and the % increase in cost is not justified by increase of yeild. I retired from a profession that required decisions based on statistics and the bottom line #s just don't justify more cost.

Autocobs...check out cobshop . I run a autocob 55w and a 75w rapidled cob. QB has kinda pushed the aside but cobs are still come beef makers and much more adjustable.

Thank you for that information! I am tempted to just pop one photo then and try it out!

JoeBlow5823 · Oct 23, 2020

still_smoked said:
In that perspective, for sure I can see an auto as a be if it in that way. Mine was due too sooner harvest and that I only have one space (2.5x5’ tent). If I had more space I would of went with photos to get a mom and run clones to save money on seeds.

But I’m indoor and didn’t think that running a shorter veg time on a photo would basically do just that. But then you will need to know the genetics of the plant. Like if the growth it’ll make within the veg time support the flower and so forth.

I’m in my first grow right now, so I’m kind of shooting in the dark with knowing the physicality's of individual strains.

I dont know maybe i got lucky but i just tossed a seed in a pot and watered it and added some dry amendments here and there and got this.

Photos dont flower until they are sexually mature and that is usually around 4-5 weeks which is also when autos start flowering. Plant was also in a low light corner of the tent the whole grow.

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 26, 2020

mistergrafik said:
!! That's funny I am switching over to autos this winter to try them!

Good luck - I'll sub to the thread to see what happens as you go; since you're taking my advice I'll be here to help

I see what you mean about a battle, currently training twice a day

still_smoked · Oct 26, 2020

JoeBlow5823 said:
I dont know maybe i got lucky but i just tossed a seed in a pot and watered it and added some dry amendments here and there and got this.View attachment 4722742
Photos dont flower until they are sexually mature and that is usually around 4-5 weeks which is also when autos start flowering. Plant was also in a low light corner of the tent the whole grow.

It’s beautiful!

mistergrafik · Oct 26, 2020

Greenthumbgrower1986 said:
I see what you mean about a battle, currently training twice a day

Looking good

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 28, 2020

Still no sign of pistols yet

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 29, 2020

Hi again all, is itt usually when the pistols start showing that new growth gets very thin and spindly?

Cappuchino · Oct 30, 2020

Greenthumbgrower1986 said:
Hi again all, is itt usually when the pistols start showing that new growth gets very thin and spindly?

Seams okay. Those "chicken legs". That's the stretch, you should see pistils soon.

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Oct 30, 2020

Cappuchino said:
Seams okay. Those "chicken legs". That's the stretch, you should see pistils soon.

Yeah there are pistols now.

Greenthumbgrower1986 · Nov 2, 2020

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