George Zimmerman in jail AGAIN

londonfog

londonfog

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see4 said:
I suppose I did. But I think the point being is, that londonfog created a thread linking to Zimmerman accusation, that in itself is NOT what sunni closed the thread for. sunni would not do that. sunni closed the thread because the thread got out of hand, presumably because the defenders raged on the thread and the others responded. typical of these useless engagements. so again, your use of the term "served his arse" is probably an exaggeration.
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Sunni deleted the thread due to others getting out of hand with insults. Now I just report everyone that does this so my thread can stay open. Problems solved and life moves on
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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see4 said:
Most aren't. Most are just doing their job. I have found, as long as you are respectful and reasonable, they will return the favor. I have run into a few young cops who are on the force to get back at those who picked on them in life. Those guys are hard to deal with.

I was pulled over after having just passed a 18 wheeler, I was doing about 80 in a 65, but I was slowing down [after having JUST passed the truck]. He pulled me over, and I was polite, stating that I was passing the truck because it was kicking out rocks, one of which hit my windshield. He yelled at me saying he didn't want to hear my excuses, and proceeded to tell me I was lucky he wasn't throwing me in jail for endangering others. Prick. It was 6am on a fucking Saturday on the I-90, a 4 land highway, with about 4 cars on the road at the time. But in the end, I was still polite.
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agreed, in some case their only saving grace is an experienced and seasoned FTO
 
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beenthere

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see4 said:
That is a good question. I would need to review the corporate rules of Amtrak. That day, the conductor took it upon himself to decide the matter was a non-issue. I may be not as lucky another day.

That is certainly correct for airlines. All of them. I would need to have the weapon checked-in by TSA, locked and stowed in the luggage compartment for it to fly with me.
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Don't ya think you should have checked that law the day you said you pulled your weapon out in front of the conductor?

Amtrak is public transformation and abides by the same laws as the airlines, that is why the federal government passed that law.


Effective December 15, 2010, Amtrak will accept reservations of firearms and ammunition for carriage between Amtrak stations and on Amtrak trains within the United States that offer checked baggage service. Thruway Bus Services will not be included in this service change. The following policies are in effect:


  • Notification that the passenger will be checking firearms/ammunition must be made no later than 24 hours before train departure by calling Amtrak at 800-USA-RAIL. Online reservations for firearms/ammunition are not accepted.
  • The passengers must travel on the same train that is transporting the checked firearms and/or ammunition.
  • All firearms and/or ammunition must be checked at least 30 minutes prior to scheduled train departure. Some larger stations require that baggage be checked earlier. Please contact your departure station for more details.
  • All firearms (rifles, shotguns, handguns, starter pistols) must be unloaded and in an approved, locked hard-sided container not exceeding 62" L x 17" W x 7" D (1575 mm x 432 mm x 178 mm). The passenger must have sole possession of the key or the combination for the lock to the container. The weight of the container may not exceed 50 lb/23 kg.
  • Smaller locked, hard-sided containers containing smaller unloaded firearms such as handguns and starter pistols must be securely stored within a suitcase or other item of checked baggage, but the existence of such a firearm must be declared.
  • All ammunition carried must be securely packed in the original manufacturer's container; in fiber, wood, or metal boxes; or in other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. The maximum weight of all ammunition and containers may not exceed 11 lb/5 kg.
  • The passenger is responsible for knowing and following all federal, state, and local firearm laws at all jurisdictions to and through which he or she will be travelling.
  • All other Amtrak checked baggage policies apply, including limits on the number of pieces of checked baggage, the maximum weight of each piece (50 lb/23 kg).
  • Firearms/ammunition may not be carried in carry-on baggage; therefore, checked baggage must be available on all trains and at all stations in the passenger's itinerary.
  • At the time of check-in, passengers will be required to complete and sign a two-part Declaration Form.
  • BB guns and Compressed Air Guns (to include paintball markers), are to be treated as firearms and must comply with the above firearms policy. Canisters, tanks, or other devices containing propellants must be emptied prior to checking and securely packaged within the contents of the passenger's luggage.
 
see4

see4

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beenthere said:
Effective December 15, 2010, Amtrak will accept reservations of firearms and ammunition for carriage between Amtrak stations and on Amtrak trains within the United States that offer checked baggage service. Thruway Bus Services will not be included in this service change. The following policies are in effect:
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You are absolutely right. The 128 station in MA did not have bag check-in at the time, and this was an Acela train for Grand Central. It was a 10 round magazine. Though Im not sure that had anything to do with it.

However, you bring up a very good point. I need to pay closer attention to these things, though I have not been on a train in a few years, so it may be irrelevant for now.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Sorry I don't defend men who are accused 3 times of being violent to women. Not my style.
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Your heart is in the right place, I commend you for that.

Do you defend government policies that threaten violence to peaceful men and women if not obeyed? I think you do. Have you considered that you cherry pick what you declare violence to be to satisfy your aversion to facing your own dissonance? I think you do. I invite you to see both sides of the equation. If we agree that it is wrong for the likes of Zimmerman to initiate force, why do you apologize for the initiation or threat of force in other instances when it's done by others?
 
see4

see4

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Rob Roy said:
Your heart is in the right place, I commend you for that.

Do you defend government policies that threaten violence to peaceful men and women if not obeyed? I think you do. Have you considered that you cherry pick what you declare violence to be to satisfy your aversion to facing your own dissonance? I think you do. I invite you to see both sides of the equation. If we agree that it is wrong for the likes of Zimmerman to initiate force, why do you apologize for the initiation or threat of force in other instances when it's done by others?
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So you are for a vigilante state?
 
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beenthere

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Rob Roy said:
Your heart is in the right place, I commend you for that.

Do you defend government policies that threaten violence to peaceful men and women if not obeyed? I think you do. Have you considered that you cherry pick what you declare violence to be to satisfy your aversion to facing your own dissonance? I think you do. I invite you to see both sides of the equation. If we agree that it is wrong for the likes of Zimmerman to initiate force, why do you apologize for the initiation or threat of force in other instances when it's done by others?
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see4 said:
So you are for a vigilante state?
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Did you even read Rob Roy's comment?
He's arguing against that very thing!
Pay attention, will ya.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
No, however I do not favor the current state where a single entity holds a monopoly on the use of force and gets to interpret the extent of its own power.
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Do me a favor and start a thread on YOUR topic..I promise I will participate in the conversation. This one is about Zimmerman and his wife beating ways.

I'm wondering how in the hell did zimmemrman get so broke. Did O'Mara take all the money that was donated
 
see4

see4

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beenthere said:
Did you even read Rob Roy's comment?
He's arguing against that very thing!
Pay attention, will ya.
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I did read his comment. But I did not understand the comparison of federal government who's intent is to look out for the well-being of a society and George Zimmerman who's intentions have been quite clear from day 1, violent and not remorseful.

Rob Roy said:
No, however I do not favor the current state where a single entity holds a monopoly on the use of force and gets to interpret the extent of its own power.
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What do you mean a single entity holds a monopoly on the use of force? Can you please explain this with examples.
 
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schuylaar

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desert dude said:
You could be correct.

The evidence I have seen against the latest Zimmerman problem seems pretty thin, though. It basically boils down to "he said, she said" from two people in the throes of a romantic breakup.
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desert dude said:
This is sounding like a repeat from you guys of the murder charge against Zimmerman. You and Buck spent thousands of posts (mostly Buck) insisting that Zimmerman was guilty while quite a few people, myself included, were saying, "not so fast". As the evidence piled up that showed Zim was simply acting in self defense, you guys doubled down with the stupid. It seems like you are doing the same thing again.

Zim might be guilty of something, but so far the cops have not presented much. Who knows what happened between Z and his latest groupie? Nobody but them, that's who. There is no evidence that anybody was choked. It's Zim's house too, that's is what happens when a room mate moves in, the residence becomes their residence.
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see4 said:
You jump to conclusions too quickly. You don't hear the entire story, or refuse to listen. You seem to want to pick a fight. A fight you will not win. So as I said earlier. Stop. You only make yourself look like an internet troll looking to pick fights.
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i've noticed that pattern with our friends from the right here at RIU..at first i thought it was a comprehension issue..but it's more like the game of telephone..they hear bits and pieces and don't bother to check if it's accurate..even when it has a citation attached..there was a thread posted the other day from DD or GW the title and comment were totally offbase..i mean REALLY WRONG..in relationship to the citation..the subject matter was taken completely out of context..
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Do me a favor and start a thread on YOUR topic..I promise I will participate in the conversation. This one is about Zimmerman and his wife beating ways.

I'm wondering how in the hell did zimmemrman get so broke. Did O'Mara take all the money that was donated
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My apologies. As you wish.
 
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schuylaar

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desert dude said:
You could be correct.

The evidence I have seen against the latest Zimmerman problem seems pretty thin, though. It basically boils down to "he said, she said" from two people in the throes of a romantic breakup.
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desert dude said:
This is sounding like a repeat from you guys of the murder charge against Zimmerman. You and Buck spent thousands of posts (mostly Buck) insisting that Zimmerman was guilty while quite a few people, myself included, were saying, "not so fast". As the evidence piled up that showed Zim was simply acting in self defense, you guys doubled down with the stupid. It seems like you are doing the same thing again.

Zim might be guilty of something, but so far the cops have not presented much. Who knows what happened between Z and his latest groupie? Nobody but them, that's who. There is no evidence that anybody was choked. It's Zim's house too, that's is what happens when a room mate moves in, the residence becomes their residence.
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londonfog said:
Do me a favor and start a thread on YOUR topic..I promise I will participate in the conversation. This one is about Zimmerman and his wife beating ways.

I'm wondering how in the hell did zimmemrman get so broke. Did O'Mara take all the money that was donated
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i'm sure mark o' mara's retainer was pretty hefty..that and when he got out..started living large..makes you wonder, huh?
 
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