Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

oceangreen

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Its about 20% stronger than the one he uses, not sure unlikely to be a problem, as long as the tub is large enough for heat not to become an issue...

P.S. the case is about $2.50, small type there...
but for the cloner the roots are not submerged in the water, so the temp is not so much of a limiting factor since the water is sprayed in intervals. Same goes with the veg system.

I would say the concern is more for the nft flowering system

I am Using the Lucas formula with this setup. What are the opinions on that?
 

oceangreen

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great thread packed with info..
If the design was a bit better, there would not be 950 pages of why shit is fked up and how to figure things out.

problems that need to be addressed:
1. water temps and keep water cool
2. leaks through top
3. cleaning the system
4. 1 on 4 off timers that don't last
5. better drainage system in veg setup
 

Bigz2277

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If the design was a bit better, there would not be 950 pages of why shit is fked up and how to figure things out.

problems that need to be addressed:
1. water temps and keep water cool
2. leaks through top
3. cleaning the system
4. 1 on 4 off timers that don't last
5. better drainage system in veg setup
Take your negative vibes elsewhere bro, if you built his setup and it leaks then you did it wrong.
Stink helps with hightimes and writes his own books.
 

ANC

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Water temps> should be non-event due to short on period, long off period
Leaks > Indeed I would do something slightly difirent I would move the pipe with the misters straight up against the lid, then turn it so the misters spray down at 45 degrees towards the oposite bottom corner, rather than towards the lid.
3 Cleaning is a bit of work but not an issue realy, you are getting lots of weed for little work.
4 No experience of commercial units, but you could cobble a timer together for a tenner, that should last bloody long, especialy of you don't buy the cheapest capacitors or relays.
Does not fault the rest of the system....
 

oceangreen

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I chose the Hammond 1591 flanged box as the case for the project. It is small and the flanges allows you to mount it to a surface. Cost your side of the pond, about $4.50.


Additions were two status LED's, one for power status, and one for output status. Will keep you updated as and when I make progress into a physical prototype.
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Nice, any chance of a step by step tutorial?
 
If the design was a bit better, there would not be 950 pages of why shit is fked up and how to figure things out.

problems that need to be addressed:
1. water temps and keep water cool
2. leaks through top
3. cleaning the system
4. 1 on 4 off timers that don't last
5. better drainage system in veg setup
1. Your water temps in your flower room, if your pump is on ANY timer, will be dependent on your room temp. Not on the system. Look into venting your sealed lights. Exhaust fans on a controller for the room to control temps and humidity.
For 2 and 3. get black lawn bags and put them in the res. then fill the res. when done you can remove dump the res and throw away the bag. Run disinfectant level bleach through the system for a half hour, toothbrush your sprayers. Not to bad really.
4. the timers are rated for 15 amps if you are running multiple pumps on an powerstrip off the timer, the start up amps of the pumps exceed this 15 amps after 3 400gph pumps. This will kill ur timer quick. A relay is needed. A wonderful one is included near pg 200 by andyman i think.
5. do you mean emptying all the water out. what is the problem?

Dont get me wrong i have been at this since feb and i have nothing to show. very frustrating but i have faith and once i work out MY kinks i will have bud porn a plenty.
 
My current issue. Well all my issues are from seeds. So i got the little guys in the cloner with roots growing well. I was using bout 6 gallons of water and 150 ml clonex. Then i read on here that going from seeds, you should put them in the veg unit. I took this as i should be using the veg formula of nutes. So i went OH SHIT. After changing the water and ppm'in and ph'in the water i now have no more root growth and no more plant growth.
Anything from anybody on this?
Is PPM'in and PH'in a new word?
 

oceangreen

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My current issue. Well all my issues are from seeds. So i got the little guys in the cloner with roots growing well. I was using bout 6 gallons of water and 150 ml clonex. Then i read on here that going from seeds, you should put them in the veg unit. I took this as i should be using the veg formula of nutes. So i went OH SHIT. After changing the water and ppm'in and ph'in the water i now have no more root growth and no more plant growth.
Anything from anybody on this?
Is PPM'in and PH'in a new word?
the cloner and veg system are pretty much the same thing... the only difference is you are adding nutes..
 

ANC

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Yeah I will do the tutorial and parts list thing as soon as I have tested it all, had no time for it today, and tommorrow looks busy too.
Might even do a kit for those who want to build their own but are scared of the circuit board makeing process, or soldering on the little surface mount inverter. (I use reflow solder and a hot air gun from my garage :P ).
 

oceangreen

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Guys,

On the desings the sprayers are 3.5 inches away from the Lid.

WHen I did mine they were 2 INCHES away from the lid. Is that too high up???
 

StinkBud

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Guys,

On the desings the sprayers are 3.5 inches away from the Lid.

WHen I did mine they were 2 INCHES away from the lid. Is that too high up???
It shouldn't matter a bit as the plants don't have a ruler. Be sure and put some rope caulk around the edge of the res if you have any leaks.
 

StinkBud

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Root there it is! Root there it is! So when cleaning, what is your bleach water ppm that runs through the pump for a half hour? Are you using the sanitize 200 ppm or the disinfect for like 2700 ppm? Also whats the ppm of the glass jar bleach water that you put your ph meter in while you use it?
I just put in about a 1/4 cup of regular old bleach. If everything has been running clean with no problems you can also just wash it everything really good with soapy water.
 

StinkBud

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If the design was a bit better, there would not be 950 pages of why shit is fked up and how to figure things out.

problems that need to be addressed:
1. water temps and keep water cool
2. leaks through top
3. cleaning the system
4. 1 on 4 off timers that don't last
5. better drainage system in veg setup
1) Water temps - Dependent on room temps. As I've said before you need to keep your room under 78 degrees to keep your water under 68 degrees.
2) Leaks through the top - Rope Caulk. It costs about $4.
3) Cleaning the system - Mild bleach solution and water, or just plain soap and water
4) Better timer - I've been recommending the cheap mechanical timers for years now. They never break. It's about $12 and runs 15 minutes on and 15 minutes off.
5) Better drainage for veg - My new cloner and veg unit has a drain valve.

Everyone of these issues has been covered in detail in my new book. http://www.harvestapound.com/

Remember, this thread was started in 2008. That's a long time ago! I didn't even think anyone would give a shit about it. I illustrated all the plans, took all the photos and wrote all the text and posted everything for free! Sometimes you get what you pay for...
 

StinkBud

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Yeah I will do the tutorial and parts list thing as soon as I have tested it all, had no time for it today, and tommorrow looks busy too.
Might even do a kit for those who want to build their own but are scared of the circuit board makeing process, or soldering on the little surface mount inverter. (I use reflow solder and a hot air gun from my garage :P ).
I designed my own timer a few years ago. I went to Radio Shack and bought a timer IC chip, board and parts. It was cool how everything worked. I used a variable resistor to control the capacitor voltage. As the cap's voltage climbed it would eventually reach 5 volts and switch the chip to on. The IC chip output was tied to a relay that switched on and off. Then I used another variable resistor to control the time the chip was on. A timer is really just a simple flip-flop circuit.

So why didn't I start making my own timers? The parts cost more than a brand new timer! Now factor in labor and you can see why I gave up. I did get it to work though!
 

Gyroscope

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Remember, this thread was started in 2008. That's a long time ago! I didn't even think anyone would give a shit about it. I illustrated all the plans, took all the photos and wrote all the text and posted everything for free! Sometimes you get what you pay for...

I for one appreciate the time and effort you have put into this !!

+ Reps
 
Im starting my second grow operation and am going to try this method. Thank you for all the info and i also appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. Im a broke college student trying to figure out differnt ways of income so i can stay going to school and taking 15 credit hours each semester.
 

StinkBud

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Im starting my second grow operation and am going to try this method. Thank you for all the info and i also appreciate the time and effort you have put into this. Im a broke college student trying to figure out differnt ways of income so i can stay going to school and taking 15 credit hours each semester.
Good for you bro! Stick with it and don't give up. Education is one of the most important aspects of life (as you already know). I'm proud of you bro and glad to have you as a StinkBuddy!

By the way, there are new cloner plans available here:
http://www.harvestapound.com/aero-coner-ii-plans/
 

StinkBud

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I for one appreciate the time and effort you have put into this !!

+ Reps
Thanks Bro! That's why I keep going. I know there are some people that appreciate the amount of time I've spent. I get emails from people all the time thanking me. There are some people that are trying to keep their father, mother, husband or wife alive. That's who this thread is for.

I've also seen people completely turn their life around. Although I don't recommend growing commercially I know you have to eat and with today's economy that can be hard sometimes. As long as you spread the love it's all good with me.
 

oceangreen

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^^ respect

Stink...

I figured out out to turn the 15 mintue 24 hour timers for 10 bucks into the 1 minute on, 5 minute off..

It has to to with minor mods to the gears int he timers.
 
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