mdjmatthew
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so iput blackstrap molasses in to my hydro setup im beginning my 5th week of flowering i went to check the water today and the roots were all gunky and the water was all foamy is that normal
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jondamon
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Dump your res and replenish with fresh clean water.
Allow it to run and then dump and replenish with your nute mix.
Molasses can cause all sorts of gunk to form in your tubes and pumps etc.
Not only that but the longer molasses is in a system the more it impacts on pH.
Doesn't anyone read any more before dumping stuff into their plants.
Molasses has very little nutritional elements that can actually be absorbed via the roots without a thriving microherd in your rhizosphere.
Carbs are mainly for feeding good bacteria and fungi within a predominantly organic grow.
J
Allow it to run and then dump and replenish with your nute mix.
Molasses can cause all sorts of gunk to form in your tubes and pumps etc.
Not only that but the longer molasses is in a system the more it impacts on pH.
Doesn't anyone read any more before dumping stuff into their plants.
Molasses has very little nutritional elements that can actually be absorbed via the roots without a thriving microherd in your rhizosphere.
Carbs are mainly for feeding good bacteria and fungi within a predominantly organic grow.
J
kinddiesel
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never put any sugar into hydro with in a few hours forms bacteria , only put that stuff in a 3 hours before your ready to harvest,
wyteberrywidow
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this is what I wonder?
Most new threads are people with enough posts talking shit giving advice but then they have problems like this lmao...
Timewasmoney1
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You been here since 2008 and you act like this trend is something new? really man. When will you just accept its human nature to ask people such as RIU with a huge number of knowledgeable people to give them their opinion than read up. Rather have a human talk to me then read.
Then you as a mod come in here bashing OP for asking a silly question. Pathetic
wyteberrywidow
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first of all
When I first came here it wasn't like this.
People actually read before they planted a seed. Now people plant the seed and want people to hold there hand all thru the grow.
When wll I accept that people rather ask for advice rather than do some research before starting a grow?
I've accepted it a long time ago doesn't mean I. Don't have a opinion on it.
Where did I come in here bashing the op?
I took a quote from someone a stated something.
"If it doesn't apply,let it fly".
Its more like you just wanted something to say really.
mdjmatthew
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I thought i had read to put molasses in to your res....as a matter of fact i did read on another forum that you can use molasses on hydro from some person that had been on the site for a long time plus i dont have any money to buy any of those products you mentioned....i did flush my res and put everything back in there and this time i put about half as much molasses in it and the water while a little brown from the molasses theres no sign of gunk or foam
mdjmatthew
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Thanks dude............And i very rarely give advice for the record this is my first real grow and i have done a butt load of research to help me along but when i read something that says DO IT, I do it and when theres negative side effects thats when i come on here
wyteberrywidow
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For the record I did not bash you or intend to mke it seem that way. I just simply saw part of a post and quoted it to speak a little on it.
jondamon
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mdjmatthew
Member
provide calcium and magneseum some iron and sugar for the buds im starting my 5th week of flower and i dont know what everyone is talking about about the molasses helping the herd when only in soil how is water any different what makes the mag and cal unusable by the plants if only in water........i did some supplemental research and a lot of peolpe said the only difference they saw between blackstrap and the expensive stuff was their pocketbook and there was a bunch of hydroponic fruit farmers that use it
mdjmatthew
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i have like 2 tsps to 4.5 gallons right now so a very small amount i think i am gonna leave it i already flushed out my res since i wrote this i put pretty strong nutes and a little molasses and ph'd down with sulfuric acid to provide sulpher i wanna see how they do the water isnt all foamy anymore just a caramel color the roots look good... iduuno maybe the idea is to put just a little in
wyteberrywidow
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You did your research on it?
I just typed in"using molasses in hydroponics" in the goolgle search bar. If you do that you will be surprised at what you find.
jondamon
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I take it you're using synthetic nutrients??
These contain ionic forms of nutrients that are readily available for uptake by the roots.
In organics it has to be broken down by bacteria within the rootzone (rhizosphere).
Because the ionic forms of nutrients are able to be uptaken directly by the roots the bacterial growth is inhibited. Meaning colonies if present are very low. Due to being redundant as their job is to convert organic matter into these ionic forms for the roots to uptake.
Molasses helps to feed this herd of bacteria and fungi.
Too much much molasses can stop Nitrogen from being uptaken by the roots.
Ultimately they're your plants dude, you can do to them whatever you want.
But you said it yourself, when things go tits up, RIU is where you turn too.
Many "OLD SCHOOL" growers still believe that molasses fattens buds too.
J
These contain ionic forms of nutrients that are readily available for uptake by the roots.
In organics it has to be broken down by bacteria within the rootzone (rhizosphere).
Because the ionic forms of nutrients are able to be uptaken directly by the roots the bacterial growth is inhibited. Meaning colonies if present are very low. Due to being redundant as their job is to convert organic matter into these ionic forms for the roots to uptake.
Molasses helps to feed this herd of bacteria and fungi.
Too much much molasses can stop Nitrogen from being uptaken by the roots.
Ultimately they're your plants dude, you can do to them whatever you want.
But you said it yourself, when things go tits up, RIU is where you turn too.
Many "OLD SCHOOL" growers still believe that molasses fattens buds too.
J
mdjmatthew
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i did that and got a bunch of conflicting ideas about it
Bigby
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It was said with humour. Wouldn't say he was bashing the OP, just making a general observation.
Can only assume this is the result of some beef between you too.