How to Legalize Cannabis!

theloadeddragon

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theories and ideas about how to get pot legalized! Post em here! I have my own theories, but I wanna see what you guys say first. But my question is this... Would you Actually do anything to get it legalized? I mean get up off your bum and work hard for it? Its your ass in jail either way....
 

rawgit

Active Member
#1 Stop all purchases of MJ.
#2 Grow your own.

Petitions with sheeples names mean squat to the bootleggers, and their masters.
$100.00 bills missing from their daily take, make them notice!
 

4maggio

Well-Known Member
I hate money....
No disrespect tlg but you must be either:

1 a democrat
2 someone who is young and wo a job (hence> no money)
3 in jail
4 in forclosure
5 have so much it's a PITA! LOL!! (<no!?)

Just breakin em laod....:mrgreen:

Hate it or not, wo money ya don't do much.:joint:
 

whulkamania

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We can do what our ancestors did and stand in the middle of the streets holding hands and yelling "LEGALIZE IT" And start singing songs.
 

AnitaNuggs

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i think if we all stopped buying weed and grew our own, like all weed smokers
i think the government will see how much money they are making.
 

theloadeddragon

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You all realize that if it gets legalized, then about a million people + will lose their jobs, right? Its going through the transition that the "government" is scared of, because legalizing and taxing is way more "profitable" to the government!
 

drew420man

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well rosa parks sat at the front of the bus too free black people. how about every smoker just tokes up whereever they feel. they cant fill the jails with peaceful smokers. i would sit in a jail cell for a few days to have my right to smoke a plant i grew.
 

McLovin420

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How about you send a couple of emails or make a few calls to your state reps, congressmen & senators. Since we're all stoners here's a stoner link to find yours Contact Officials - NORML. If democrats support the right for a woman to kill a baby why not our right to smoke in our own homes. Republicans support the free market but not your right to a free body. If you don't speak they can't listen but you can guarantee the other side is speaking loud & clear. Be informed & voice your opinion. Know your facts & fight ignorance no matter who's mouth it comes from even your own mothers.
 

blazin waffles

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You all realize that if it gets legalized, then about a million people + will lose their jobs, right? Its going through the transition that the "government" is scared of, because legalizing and taxing is way more "profitable" to the government!
Firstly i was wondering what jobs would be lost?
And then you have to understand how many jobs legalization would produce!

How about you send a couple of emails or make a few calls to your state reps, congressmen & senators. Since we're all stoners here's a stoner link to find yours Contact Officials - NORML. If democrats support the right for a woman to kill a baby why not our right to smoke in our own homes. Republicans support the free market but not your right to a free body. If you don't speak they can't listen but you can guarantee the other side is speaking loud & clear. Be informed & voice your opinion. Know your facts & fight ignorance no matter who's mouth it comes from even your own mothers.
BINGO!!!!! Hempfest this year is going with a "what you can do with hemp" theme. Everything from cloths to gas!

:peace:
 

theloadeddragon

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Correctional officers, lobbyists, politicians, DEA divisions, Correctional officers, CAMP pilots etc. police officers, sherrifs, tons of administrative workers and clerical workers, pot growers, dealers etc. etc.. I know what your point is, that these are not people that "we" collectively would mind having lose their jobs, with exception to the fact that most of these people don't have a problem with pot, and a good amount of them smoke themselves, have families, and are good community members. I think that it would probably create about the same amount of jobs, but the qualifications and duties of the jobs would be completely different from those that were lost, therefore those that lost their jobs would still be out of work. I could also see a lot of violence coming from the transition, which would not be good. Thats why I would recommend and advocate for regulation, taxation, and registration, as well as Federal studies etc. to insure a slow transition that would allow for a more peaceful process. I would register and pay a fee to smoke completely legally every year!
 

4maggio

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Correctional officers, lobbyists, politicians, DEA divisions, Correctional officers, CAMP pilots etc. police officers, sherrifs, tons of administrative workers and clerical workers, pot growers, dealers etc. etc.. I know what your point is, that these are not people that "we" collectively would mind having lose their jobs, with exception to the fact that most of these people don't have a problem with pot, and a good amount of them smoke themselves, have families, and are good community members. I think that it would probably create about the same amount of jobs, but the qualifications and duties of the jobs would be completely different from those that were lost, therefore those that lost their jobs would still be out of work. I could also see a lot of violence coming from the transition, which would not be good. Thats why I would recommend and advocate for regulation, taxation, and registration, as well as Federal studies etc. to insure a slow transition that would allow for a more peaceful process. I would register and pay a fee to smoke completely legally every year!
AND LAWYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They would loose HUGE!!!!! case loads (<< = money!)

They are the MFers that would loose the most! And they (lawyers) are all
asshole buddies.... I hope you do not think lawyers in general are going to want it leagalized?
Wrong! Their 'buddies/politicians' aren't going to let that happen...

BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE STILL ASSOCIATED WITH A LAW FIRM
no matter what OsamaObama says! or any other of those lying bastards say, if they (politicians/lawyers) wanted it (ANY ISSUE ACTUALLY) to happen... it would be a done deal. Like drilling for oil in Anwar (Alaska) god forsaken place, no one can get to it to 'bask in the beauty .. at least no more that a hand full of privleged souls... whatdafuk.. do you know how many carabou there are? Or off shore where the Japaneese are already poised to drill anyway.. Are they STUPID! no.. they are raising the price of oil making it look like the arabs are making it happen (they actually are with the help of politicians) so it makes sense to the public to drill or conver shale..

Enforcing the fact that most of the americans have their head in the sand.
I live in Florida, USA.. and am not happy saying this.

Can you tell what I think about lawyers..
they are the ones who keep the 'enforcement' preasure in on and in tact, instead of directing that resource (police) to more serious crimes investigations....
EVERYWHERE!!!! even in your country (for the most part).

IMO.. it is a sickening subject (Lawyers and politicians).

I'd rather be alone "in my little world..
(where I make the rules.. for the most part!)
 

blazin waffles

Well-Known Member
Correctional officers, lobbyists, politicians, DEA divisions, Correctional officers, CAMP pilots etc. police officers, sherrifs, tons of administrative workers and clerical workers, pot growers, dealers etc. etc.. I know what your point is, that these are not people that "we" collectively would mind having lose their jobs, with exception to the fact that most of these people don't have a problem with pot, and a good amount of them smoke themselves, have families, and are good community members. I think that it would probably create about the same amount of jobs, but the qualifications and duties of the jobs would be completely different from those that were lost, therefore those that lost their jobs would still be out of work. I could also see a lot of violence coming from the transition, which would not be good. Thats why I would recommend and advocate for regulation, taxation, and registration, as well as Federal studies etc. to insure a slow transition that would allow for a more peaceful process. I would register and pay a fee to smoke completely legally every year!

I don't understand how it would effect half of those people. IE correctional officers.....if anything it would help this particular group. My mom was a CO and they don't really hire more people when more people get locked up. Thats part of the problem.......over crowding in jail. Helped by legal pot.
And the police officers and sheriffs may actually have the time and get paid and fully staffed so they can take care of the real issues out there. Marijuana isn't going to be legalized without regulation taxation and all that.
So how can that cause people to loose jobs in the fields you stated *otherr than lawyers*
The amount of jobs it would create would be much more than any lost.
Farmers, field hands, mill workers, and not to mention it would give a huge boost to the small business side of things. All you'd have to do is make it like a liquor license, then we'd have coffe shops everywhere!
IMHO

:peace:
 

VictorVIcious

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Right type of idea, wrong execution, in my opnion. It could be as simple as distribution thru stores that have liqour licences already. If you make i some new special license you have to have a whole new buaracracy to over see it. I would take a look at the petition drive they have started in Oregon as a way to logically get weed legal.
In Michigan this makes sense, not all states have the same laws and distribution. When a store receives any liqour in this State, they pay for it when it comes in the door, no credit. So all you would have to do is collect the sintax up front, the distributor submits it to the state, they get there money and they are all done. Let the little guys that have been selling us the papers for years sell the weed to go in em. Everything would have to be grown in our state of course. If the numbers used are logical it will work. If they are not you would end up with the status quo plus some ..., Let me explain. The first part of the petition would state that if your are old enough you can grow your own for your own comsumption, and even share as long as your were not selling it. Marijuana is the number one cash crop in the country so it would apppear some would like to sell it, they would have a license fee of $1000.00. To take it from the grower to the retailor you would be a distributor, much like the liqour companies, with appropriate licensing fees. Liqour prices in our state have set minimums, Marijuana would to. The State minimum would be $45.00/ qt oz, there would not be a maximum, it would be whatever the market will bear. The distributor would pay the grower when he accepts the product for distribution, and collect everything except the retailors profit at the time of delivery. and submits the sintax to the state on a regular basis, like weekly.
Now lets assume that the pot you grow is worth more than that $180.00/oz. number, there is nothing to stop you from convincing the distributor of that and nothing that stop the retailor from charging more for it if its worth it, the market will decide. Just something to think about. VV
 

blazin waffles

Well-Known Member
Thank you!
And the dealer (store) buys it at cost and sells it at retail. I work for a phone comp. and we buy a phone for 328 turn it around and if we're not getting additional money from the sale (ie: a two year contract) we sell it at retail price. For that particular phone it's 500 dollars. 172 dollars profit. Same thing with bud. Giving growth to small businesses.
But then you have the prob. of companies like marlboro and camel having a monopoly in the market..............or would you?
With weed the common grower could grow bud just as good with lower overhead. Do you think that would keep the market in check?

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VictorVIcious

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I think you have to safegaurd the market, you have to allow reasonable limits on the amount of plants grown, those are details that must be filled in by all of us that would benefit from such a ballot initiative. 22 State have some form of ballot initiative there is not a Federal one. Politicians are waking up and the general public is tired of hearing about it. We can make everyone pay attention at the local level and get it done while they sleep.
I gathered signatures to put medical marijuana on the ballot and attended the meeting where the board certified the signatures, they were stunned. The politicians had been dodging the question with..." Well lets see them get it on the ballot" type bullshit, now its kinda hard for them to come out in support. We are losing everything at the state level just like your state is, California's governor wants to cut state workers back to minimum wage its so bad, and ending the prohibition of Marijuana can be shown to fix this problem IF, it is done in a logical way that is acceptable for the general public. If its not, we will just continue what we are doing now, growing $30 with a B, of untaxed. And the US will go bankrupt. If you follow all of the argument put forth by LEAP, you will see that this is really about saving this country. We have to save the politicians from themselves. Make a legal market for product grown in the United States, of course that would have to be grown in the state were it is purchased. You have to do it at state level. Why?? Because you can specifically show 'Whats in it for me', without getting into all the political bullshit. How did we get a State Lottery and Legal Casino's? They sold us the benefits, school funding, revenue, tourism, jobs. I think they may even pay for some of the advertising about Gambling Responsibly. We have a record deficit, almost 1/2 trillion dollars, and that is just at the federal level, the states can't have deficits, they are going to have to raise taxes or cut services, we could bail them out with legal weed, I don't want to do it forever, and that is why you have to write an end to the sintax into the petition. It starts at $45.00/ oz, sold in 1/4 oz pckages at a minimum of $45.00. According to the Michigan Department of Agriculture, Marijuana is the third leading crop grown in Michigan, retailing around $4000/ lb average. $720 of that would be the sintax, did I mention its included in the MInimum price, and you would pay the normal 6% sales tax to avoid hassels and give another little source of income, plus the facts that it is now a recorded sale, tracking for effect can be set up as easily as the lottery machine, you could even put software in any scan register.
We could say, ok folks, here is the program, now lets talk about the expected effects. 70,000 pounds @ $720.00 per pound + the 6% sales tax on the average retail sale of $4000.00 for the 70,000 and the increased revenue thru the store, more business for the small businesses. And we haven't even started about talking about the savings to law enforcement, the corrections department or the increase in tourism, which I guess would have to be our number one industry, since the decline of the auto manufacturing jobs.
Have I got you sold yet or should I tell you more?? VV:twisted:
 
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