HSO Blue Dream Grow

mrblu

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oh tomorrow il get some pics of my blue dream thats about 4 or 5 weeks into flowering. im using jacks classic duo with them. they veg'd 7 weeks and are about 4 foot tall all lst'd. some of the trunks are as big as my wrist lol.
 

botanist95

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And beard i just simply topped her to get those colas, and yes i'll post harvest and weights when i get around to it, she's still up and growing so when i chop i'll post em up.
 

mrblu

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didnt get into the garden this morning when the light was still on but il def get them up asap.
 

mrblu

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took some night pics. not the best in the world but its something. il get lights on pics tomorrow.

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heres one from like 1 or 2 weeks into flowering that i found for now.

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i have 4 in 5g buckets. i had 5 but one of them something was wrong with it and it didnt grow right and started growing balls on a stick when i put it into flowering so had to get rid of that one. the other 4 are doing good. i got 2 keepers out of the group one that looks like it may yield alot and another that grows huge buds.
 

ThorGanjason

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I'm the same as you about a SCROG. Lol. I even have a roll of trellis screen just incase lol.


Personally I use mono Ca and Mg.

Usually out of the 2 elements Mg is the one to rear its ugly head. But what doesn't help IMO is if you are having an Mg def adding more Ca can exacerbate the Mg def as too much of one can cause deficuency symptoms of the other. Its one of those double edged swords with Ca/Mg dual supplements.

What ratio is your dual supplement?

No doubt it probably carries N in the form of calcium nitrate as that's how most Ca/Mg dual supplements formulate.


Is 3:1 Ca:Mg?

My base contains 5:2 Ca:Mg but during flower I have to add the occasional hit of 7% Mg mono.




J
J, you would probably like botanicares KIND line, it has everything broken down really well- calcium in the "base" (3 part nute system, plus the supplements) and magnesium in the bloom and in the hydroplex (its their "bulking" nute), so you are bumping up magnesium every time you bump up bloom nutes without having to bump up calcium.

Running some blue dream now, grew massive with a 6 week veg in an aeroponic setup and its looking like its going to be a great yielder.

Also recently grew out HSO's og kush, and it was phenomenal. Great yielder, super frosty, and a berry/sweet smell and taste (rare og pheno from what I understand).image.jpgIMG_20131216_202411.jpg I'm also growing out hso's desert diesel, and ran their bubba kush (phenomenal as well).

I haven't had a chance to try out too many breeders but so far hso has been killing it for me, they're my favorite.

Btw Mr. Blue, that looks like some great growth for 4 weeks! Way to go. I'm finally seeing some really good growth at 4 weeks, starting to really get it dialed in.
 

jondamon

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J, you would probably like botanicares KIND line, it has everything broken down really well- calcium in the "base" (3 part nute system, plus the supplements) and magnesium in the bloom and in the hydroplex (its their "bulking" nute), so you are bumping up magnesium every time you bump up bloom nutes without having to bump up calcium.

Running some blue dream now, grew massive with a 6 week veg in an aeroponic setup and its looking like its going to be a great yielder.

Also recently grew out HSO's og kush, and it was phenomenal. Great yielder, super frosty, and a berry/sweet smell and taste (rare og pheno from what I understand).View attachment 2964019View attachment 2964020 I'm also growing out hso's desert diesel, and ran their bubba kush (phenomenal as well).

I haven't had a chance to try out too many breeders but so far hso has been killing it for me, they're my favorite.

Btw Mr. Blue, that looks like some great growth for 4 weeks! Way to go. I'm finally seeing some really good growth at 4 weeks, starting to really get it dialed in.
Is the KIND available in the UK as alot of products USA gets we can't get over here.





J
 

ThorGanjason

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I'm not sure man; I would think probably only online bc I don't EVER see/hear about people using it on here. It's got all kinds of good things-- silica blast, vitamino (amino acid and some micros; the hydeoplex also has molybdenum, boron-- it literally has everything the plant needs, and then some. To get the full line takes quite a few bpttles, but they are totally worth it, I'm having great results.
 

jondamon

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I'm not sure man; I would think probably only online bc I don't EVER see/hear about people using it on here. It's got all kinds of good things-- silica blast, vitamino (amino acid and some micros; the hydeoplex also has molybdenum, boron-- it literally has everything the plant needs, and then some. To get the full line takes quite a few bpttles, but they are totally worth it, I'm having great results.
I'll check it out but between my CANNA COCO A/B, Silica, Mg, Ca and PK1314 I get everything the plant needs in 6 bottles. 2 of those bottles could be dropped in that line up too. The Ca and Mg as I could just increase my B amounts which contains the magnesium but if I done that it would change the NPK to an unknown ratio to me.

I'll check about the KIND nutes and see what's what.



J
 

jondamon

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I can see all the products on the US Amazon though but costs as much again for shipping lol.


But if I chose to I could grow from start to finish with my canna coco A/B and that's all and still pull respectable weights for £12 for 2x1Litre bottles which is enough for 4 plants with 4 weeks veg and 9 weeks flowering.

That's about what? $18 for a 4 plant grow pulling around 3oz a plant under a 400w.

But with the addition of my extra products and a strain I know very well +4oz per plant is my usual yield with about 6 weeks veg time and training etc.



J
 

ThorGanjason

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Yeah I've heard great things about the canna coco line. I was really wanting to go coco with my clones for the next run Bc I see people having such great results, but I'll probably just go with soil + perlite one more time to keep things easy, since I'm used to that.

I haven't had enough time to really see the benefits of a lot of the newer KIND flower nutes as I just picked them up recently, but judging by the bud growth I've gotten the passed few days I'm pretty sure I'm going to be impressed. Now to see which plants in my aero are keepers..
 

mrblu

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are you hydro jonda? if your using soil i would just go with lime and jacks its the most simple thing i have found and it has great results so far. like 40 bucks for 4lbs of grow and 4lbs of bloom. alot of people just use the 20-20-20 but im trying the 20-10-30 bloom every other week in flowering or eveyr other watering. i feed every watering atm 1 teaspoon.

are you the one with the 4 site wilma system?
 

jondamon

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are you hydro jonda? if your using soil i would just go with lime and jacks its the most simple thing i have found and it has great results so far. like 40 bucks for 4lbs of grow and 4lbs of bloom. alot of people just use the 20-20-20 but im trying the 20-10-30 bloom every other week in flowering or eveyr other watering. i feed every watering atm 1 teaspoon.

are you the one with the 4 site wilma system?

I used to be the one with the 600w wilma4 setup, until hot fuzz took it away. Now I'm a 400w coco grower. In coco Ca and Mg are needed in greater amounts. Lime wouldn't help be ause it buffers the pH and coco is quite pH specific. I hand water drain to waste.

Jacks nutrients are USA only and I'm in the UK but thanks.

To be honest I've been a CANNA man for 4ish years. The most expensive product they make is a bullshit product that I don't buy.

Coco needs less K than soil and hydro, holds onto Ca and Mg without releasing it to the plant hence the elevated levels of Ca and Mg found in coco specific nutes.

I was coco for 18months before turning to hydro, then got busted and went back to coco with a smaller setup.



J
 

NorthofEngland

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I used to be the one with the 600w wilma4 setup, until hot fuzz took it away. Now I'm a 400w coco grower. In coco Ca and Mg are needed in greater amounts. Lime wouldn't help be ause it buffers the pH and coco is quite pH specific. I hand water drain to waste.

Jacks nutrients are USA only and I'm in the UK but thanks.

To be honest I've been a CANNA man for 4ish years. The most expensive product they make is a bullshit product that I don't buy.

Coco needs less K than soil and hydro, holds onto Ca and Mg without releasing it to the plant hence the elevated levels of Ca and Mg found in coco specific nutes.

I was coco for 18months before turning to hydro, then got busted and went back to coco with a smaller setup.



J
Which do you prefer?
You were coco - you're back to coco
but your Wilma was taken....

So which system to you like most?
and why?
 

jondamon

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Which do you prefer?
You were coco - you're back to coco
but your Wilma was taken....

So which system to you like most?
and why?
Wilma hands down.

Hand watering takes too fucking long.


With a wilma I was spending about 5 mins per day testing EC and pH or adding a little mix to correct anything.
Then once a week I would dump and refill my res. about 1 hour.


Coco takes about 2 hours every other day to water and remove runoff. Not to mention transplanting time when needed.




J
 

mrblu

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when i save some money im going to go with 3 tables in my flower room under 1k lights for each 4x4 table and have a few moms and clones in another room veg'd for 1 or 2 weeks using drip system using rockwool and coco i think. i believe its going to be a super time saver cus watering tons of plants on different schedules is a pain in the butt and hopefully increase production and yields.
 

Cobnobuler

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Well I feel like I gotta resurrect the Blue Dream thread here. I took a couple pics of my BD grow thats been vegging for about 6 weeks now. It took awhile for them to fill out the pot diameter like I planned and now ( hopefully ) its time for the "rising"
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