I'm Done.

Hepheastus420

Well-Known Member
How ya figure? I think gasoline-powered cars are a grand thing. They'll eventually be supplanted by cars fueled otherwise, but for now, I gaze upon a Ferrari, or even a Honda, and I think "coolness". cn
Oh neer don't get me started on cars, I do like them though lol. Ooh Ferrari....
http://www.nutramed.com/environment/cars.htm <<<< there's pollution

There's also car crashes that kill innocent little babies, do you enjoy killing innocent little babies neer? Lol just messing around with you man.
 

lioncub

Active Member
the important matter at hand is whether we live our lives with gratitude, finding joy and sharing it with others. things of that nature. I think we can all agree that our (and everythings) existence was the result of the works of a higher power. one and many. if you wanna call it/them god/s. do it. if you wanna call it the big bang science experiment. do that. or both! just understand that judgment is so prevalent in this time and speak accordingly..or so i say. ONE LOVE
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
About car crashes ...
I won't pretend they don't happen.
However all enterprise carries risk.
I think that the benefits of all-weather personal mobility exceed the costs and dangers. Imagine getting to urgent care using public transport. cn

<edit> Just read the linked article. I disagree that driving a car is the most polluting yada yada. In USA/Canada?Europe, emissions are tightly controlled, and cars are a small fraction of the tropospheric pollution load.
Using electricity (a pastime near&dear to the indoor gardeners among us) is worse imo because so many watts come from coal. And then there is my proven penchant for cheeseburgers. Evil can be delicious. cn
 

RyanTheRhino

Well-Known Member
Yes I admit defeat. I can not prove gods existence. I cannot (I never did) say god is real as a fact. I have no more arguments to make. I will just get my beliefs knocked down everytime by others using the whole "your lack of evidence is my evidence" logic so many people use. I admit that is good logic. I'm literally tired of going around in circles trying to argue the POSSIBILITY of god and then coming to no conclusion. I'm tired of creating enemies over something so pointless to others. I still have faith and that is it. But please do not think of me as inferior to yourself simply because of my beliefs (which, sadly, alot of people do to me). Please do not think my beliefs hold me back in the world. Please do not think I'm stating my beliefs as fact. Please do not push arguments on me, for from now on I will not argue my beliefs anymore; simply because I can't give proper argument.
So again please don't argue with me, because I'm just done.


I know this isn't important to you guys but I just wanna make sure you guys know I admit defeat and that I do not wish to argue about religion anymore. Ahh that feels better.
what an awesome way to start a god is not real thread... i love it a rebuttal
 

Hepheastus420

Well-Known Member
About car crashes ...
I won't pretend they don't happen.
However all enterprise carries risk.
I think that the benefits of all-weather personal mobility exceed the costs and dangers. Imagine getting to urgent care using public transport. cn

<edit> Just read the linked article. I disagree that driving a car is the most polluting yada yada. In USA/Canada?Europe, emissions are tightly controlled, and cars are a small fraction of the tropospheric pollution load.
Using electricity (a pastime near&dear to the indoor gardeners among us) is worse imo because so many watts come from coal. And then there is my proven penchant for cheeseburgers. Evil can be delicious. cn
lol I just googled 'how are cars dangerous' and copied and pasted one of the first few links, I never even read it. However neer, my point about the cars is that they cause harm to all humanity. Cars have done more harm than good. I'm guessing sativa thinks religion has done more harm than good, yet I don't see him complaining to everyone that drives a car.

I should have used fast food instead of cars.... Hmmm, oh well; here's a pic for you neer....
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
We can debate about cars causing more harm than good. The good cars do is harder to document that statistician's dreams like crash nunbers, tons of various pollutants etc.

As for the pic ...

:cuss: danged cokehead sellout cousin. cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Alright neer, which side do you take? Do you believe cars cause more harm than good? I believe so....
I believe more good. I grew up in the 'burbs, a lifestyle impossible without the family car. The accumulated good of getting groceries, vehicular dating, vacations, family trips etc. is immense but impossible to count. That's my take.
As for harm done by cars (pollution, land use lost to roads, critters creamed on said roads by cars) ... I won't trivialize it, but it's mediagenic whereas the good is not. cn
 

eye exaggerate

Well-Known Member
I believe more good. I grew up in the 'burbs, a lifestyle impossible without the family car. The accumulated good of getting groceries, vehicular dating, vacations, family trips etc. is immense but impossible to count. That's my take.
As for harm done by cars (pollution, land use lost to roads, critters creamed on said roads by cars) ... I won't trivialize it, but it's mediagenic whereas the good is not. cn
As a parent, in the city (not downtown - a further, quieter distance away) I need a vehicle. When I was younger I built a car that thruster-shat copious amounts of full-blown leaded fuel exhaust in very short time. A couple of hours on a tank (on weekends :mrgreen:). Oh, and we added octane then too otherwise the car would ping like mad. Zero emissions control (60's car). Nowadays though, I need an economic vehicle to do what your post describes. I put 20,000kms on a car per year. I don't see that changing soon. Buy a car that's like a vaporizer - helping with damage control :)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
As a parent, in the city (not downtown - a further, quieter distance away) I need a vehicle. When I was younger I built a car that thruster-shat copious amounts of full-blown leaded fuel exhaust in very short time. A couple of hours on a tank (on weekends :mrgreen:). Oh, and we added octane then too otherwise the car would ping like mad. Zero emissions control (60's car). Nowadays though, I need an economic vehicle to do what your post describes. I put 20,000kms on a car per year. I don't see that changing soon. Buy a car that's like a vaporizer - helping with damage control :)
The fifty-year-old part of me lusts after a somewhat pre-owned Porsche. The other fifty-year-old part of me is thinking Honda Fit. I like leaving shallow footprints. One way ... small engine. The other ... wide tires. ~cheezy grin~ cn
 

eye exaggerate

Well-Known Member
The fifty-year-old part of me lusts after a somewhat pre-owned Porsche. The other fifty-year-old part of me is thinking Honda Fit. I like leaving shallow footprints. One way ... small engine. The other ... wide tires. ~cheezy grin~ cn
oh man, the list is amazingly long! Civic does our duties now. Awesome on fuel, and a host of other things.
 

BudDub

Active Member
idont got no problem with him but ifeel if you dont believe in God at least show a lil respect to the people who do thats all. iaint do nothing to him but keep it real after he called me out a few times today. but iguess thats whats wrong with people, they would rather hear flattering lies than the truth which can hurt
LOLZ Is this before or after your religion tells me I'm going to hell for not believing?
 

Heisenberg

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idont got no problem with him but ifeel if you dont believe in God at least show a lil respect to the people who do thats all. iaint do nothing to him but keep it real after he called me out a few times today. but iguess thats whats wrong with people, they would rather hear flattering lies than the truth which can hurt
We have read through pages of your crap in an attempt to learn why your religious views deserve respect. For every reasonable question asked, you return with a judgmental half thought out dogmatic response. You have been unable to give us any legit reason we should respect Christianity. In fact, you have shown that Christianity deserves to be disrespected and called out for the system of ignorance and bigotry it is. The more you try to explain and defend your beliefs, the more it becomes clear you possess a backwards intellect unable to discern reality from theater. If you wish to believe these things then fine, but you will get no more respect than a crackhead trying to explain why the aliens have taken over the government. You have a lazy, uneducated, inadequate reality filter that is a joke to anyone who makes half the effort to apply sensibility. You find justification for prejudice, hatred and cruelty among your ridiculous half-baked conclusions about a deity, you pretend to be certain about things you can not possibly know, and for this you want respect? This sort of behavior earns you contempt, not respect. The people who disrespect your believes are not doing so to be difficult or to be assholes. They are simply responding to your asinine behavior and your idiotic conviction in your fantasy.
 

Hepheastus420

Well-Known Member
Heis, I have to disagree with you.
I don't believe "Christianity deserves to be disrespected and be called out for the system of ignorance and bigotry it is".

I believe it should be respected, or at least discredited without making fun of it.
I'm sure you can understand the positives of Christianity (not that Christianity is the only way to get to these positives, it's just another way), or the several good messages (yes I know there's a shit load of bad ones too). So knowing those two things, I think you can understand why Christianity deserves at least a tiny bit of respect.

It would be cool if my buddy diesel did show some sort of valid claim instead of relying purely on scriptures....
 
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