Increasing CBD

Ccoastal

Active Member
CBD is not a precursor to THC, sorry but Marijuana Man was talking out of his ass with that one, they are in fact completely different molecules.

example: if CBD was a precursor to THC you would see the 8-9% CBD hemp strains end up with more than 1% THC, classifying them as marijuana not hemp.

Matt might come off to some like a douche, but thats because he knows his shit and will be fast to correct the naive. personally idgaf how someone comes across, its about the info.

Ccoastal
 

GrowinTheDank

Active Member
CBD is not a precursor to THC, sorry but Marijuana Man was talking out of his ass with that one, they are in fact completely different molecules.

example: if CBD was a precursor to THC you would see the 8-9% CBD hemp strains end up with more than 1% THC, classifying them as marijuana not hemp.

Matt might come off to some like a douche, but thats because he knows his shit and will be fast to correct the naive. personally idgaf how someone comes across, its about the info.

Ccoastal
^^^^^Agree
 

Kite High

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CBD is not a precursor to THC, sorry but Marijuana Man was talking out of his ass with that one, they are in fact completely different molecules.

example: if CBD was a precursor to THC you would see the 8-9% CBD hemp strains end up with more than 1% THC, classifying them as marijuana not hemp.

Matt might come off to some like a douche, but thats because he knows his shit and will be fast to correct the naive. personally idgaf how someone comes across, its about the info.

Ccoastal
incorrect as cbd is one of many precursors to thc...read real science dude...and get off of matts nuts...he dont know shit....merely kushmans puppet

here you go...the SCIENCE

http://www.genetics.org/content/163/1/335.full.pdf

as you can read it depends in initial the pathway as to whether it ends up staying cbd or changing to thc

:bigjoint:
 

Ccoastal

Active Member
guess you missed the part in there where it says 'Today, THC is considered to be derived directly from CBG in all Cannabis strains'

here you go, discredit your argument with your own data.

and lmao you have nooo idea what your talking about, but keep going none the less.

Ccoastal
 

Ccoastal

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furthermore: The propyl homolog of CBG, i.e.,CBGV, is formed if a C10, instead of the common C12 version of OA, condenses with GPP (Shoyama et al. 1984; Fellermeier and Zenk 1998). The in vivo conversions of CBG(V) into the end products THC(V), CBD(V), and CBC(V) are enzymatically catalyzed, and for each reaction an enzyme has been identified: THCsynthase (Taura et al. 1995), CBD synthase (Taura et al.1996), and CBC synthase (Morimoto et al. 1998). Shoyama et al. (1984) demonstrated that an enzyme extract from a Cannabis strain containing CBD and THC is able to convert CBGV into THCV and CBDV. This last finding implies that THC, CBD, and probably also CBC synthase, are able to process homologs of CBG regardless of the length of their alkyl side chain.

check and mate good fellow.

Ccoastal
 

Kite High

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furthermore: The propyl homolog of CBG, i.e.,CBGV, is formed if a C10, instead of the common C12 version of OA, condenses with GPP (Shoyama et al. 1984; Fellermeier and Zenk 1998). The in vivo conversions of CBG(V) into the end products THC(V), CBD(V), and CBC(V) are enzymatically catalyzed, and for each reaction an enzyme has been identified: THCsynthase (Taura et al. 1995), CBD synthase (Taura et al.1996), and CBC synthase (Morimoto et al. 1998). Shoyama et al. (1984) demonstrated that an enzyme extract from a Cannabis strain containing CBD and THC is able to convert CBGV into THCV and CBDV. This last finding implies that THC, CBD, and probably also CBC synthase, are able to process homologs of CBG regardless of the length of their alkyl side chain.

check and mate good fellow.

Ccoastal
see ya dude...,have a great existence...keep reading...one day you will see if you do
now that you have begun to read science let me give you some hints as I will not do your work for you...search for white paares years 1999, 2007,2010 from Colorado Springs, GW Pharmaceuticals, and University of Mississippi and you will see I told truth....tio
 

Ccoastal

Active Member
lmao you have nothing, you presented an article which i have already seen, and did not help your case at all.

since obviously you have trouble understanding things i will help you. there are different enzymes responsible for the formation of THC and CBD, dont believe me? let me prove you wrong with your own info once again.

The model for the biogenesis of cannabinoids with its relations between alleles and resulting chemotypes is illustrated in Figure 5. In this scheme, it is assumed that the pathway leading to CBG or CBGV is governed by at least one allelic locus, called A, on which the experiments presented here provide no information. However, there is evidence for the existence of “null” genotypes at the A locus, leading to plants devoid of any cannabinoids; such phenotypes have indeed been observed (V. G. Virovets and G. Grassi, personal communication). The pathways shown are consistent with the assumption of Shoyama et al. (1984) that the synthases characterized so far can convert equally well both CBG and CBGV into the end products THC(V) and CBD(V). This assumption is also supported by our observation that CBDV traces were detected only in CBD homozygotes (BD/BD) and heterozygotes (BD/BT), whereas THCV traces occurred exclusively in THC homozygotes (BT/BT) and heterozygotes (data not shown).

so, again, your wrong mr science. maybe you should do some more reading, on how to understand what your reading, because you are failing. weird how CBDV wasnt detected in THC huh

Ccoastal
 

Kite High

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Upon further investigation ccoastal I admit I was in error...apologies for my mistake...I am in no way perfect but am man enough to admit my errors... here is a pub with it pretty much drawn out
... cbg is precursor of both and correct in that it is a different set of proteins which makes the difference...Thank you for bringing it to my attention...but I am still correct about Matt...all you need do is go back a couple of years to when he first started posting here and you will see he is a newb who got in with kushman and is now a parrot..and I hope the below indicates I am not a newb and know what I am doing... apparently I had an older papers info in my head that stuck unfortunately

back to the op....below please find test reports on two strains I grew that were tested...first is high cbd...other is high thc little cbd...most of it is genetics but can be enhanced with with environment in the ways listed earlier

http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-259/NM_Z74_11_16_12.pdf
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-267/NM_BD16_12_28_12.pdf

So as you can see it is mostly the genetics which control the ratio...however uvb presence and absence as well as temps rh etc do influence it some....ie no uvb higher cbd, lower temps higher cbd, higher rh higher cbd, but again is mostly the genetics

Also I did not care for the CBD z7 so I donated it free of charge to indigent patients
 
from what i hear, there's no beneficial factors in cbn. it actually produces a sickly nauseating high. and look into a product called sativex. its a whole plant extract containing approximately equal amounts of CBD and THC. it's formulated for spraying under the tongue. Because of its high CBD content it's a great pain reliever. but again i don't know too much about it.
 

Kite High

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from what i hear, there's no beneficial factors in cbn. it actually produces a sickly nauseating high. and look into a product called sativex. its a whole plant extract containing approximately equal amounts of CBD and THC. it's formulated for spraying under the tongue. Because of its high CBD content it's a great pain reliever. but again i don't know too much about it.
The above chart is from GW Pharma's research which led to Sativex and yes cbn is worthless imo
 
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