Is Fem worth the extra money?

prosperian

prosperian

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sunni said:
use the ignore button if oyure having a problem with another member.
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Sunni, I'm saving my 1000 post just for you!

Myco, don't worry about it. Trouser is cool and knows his stuff. He's helped me out of some rough patches and will volunteer his time if asked.

Don't take personally, and yes I'm going to state the obvious... it a Internet forum with a bunch of medicated posters! Lol
 
Kite High

Kite High

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yeah mycho you seem like decent folk...trousers ius blunt but he is only righting misinformation...he does not get personal but will not allow misinformation he reads to go unchecked regardless who does it
 
AimAim

AimAim

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Back to the original question I think fems are the way to go. Inside the boys just waste space, and you try to juggle the amount of plants hoping you get 50% or the number you need to be female to fill your light space.

Outdoors is almost worse. You can dark-shock them at 3 weeks age (seedlings inside) and try to jerk the males, which kind of upsets the girls cause they are tricked as well and have to go back to veg, slowing them down. Or waste a bunch of time effort and money digging holes and amending soil and hauling F......ing water all summer til Sept and then kill your males you have put a lot of equity into.

I've done the outside thing many many times and both of these scenarios suck, give me a known female any day

I like the fems, makes my life easier.
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Yep I must agree that the fems are more than worth the price difference...and I find them much more consistent at providing keepers as some call it...I call it killer weed
 
Chronic Masterbator

Chronic Masterbator

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I would agree that FEMS have their benefits especially outdoor. I hope Im not wrong in assuming but...I think it is bad for the gene pool!!?? I have pondered for awhile a buddy made think about it again. If I cross a reg bean male to fem bean. Would the offsprings males produce a higher female ratio??

I only had one fem bean cutting go Hermie on me. And that's when I went on vacation, left her in care with my cuzo:roll: Instead of pondering I just decided to go with regular seed stock and not worry about it. Just I wonder though cause I love those free fem beans.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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Chronic Masterbator said:
I would agree that FEMS have their benefits especially outdoor. I hope Im not wrong in assuming but...I think it is bad for the gene pool!!??
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Did you read anything in this thread?
Why would you think that feminized seeds are bad for the gene pool?
Feminized seeds can not harm the gene pool even if they had the potential to be harmful.
Plants from feminized seeds are just female plants. They are not some sort of mutant cannabis.


Chronic Masterbator said:
I have pondered for awhile a buddy made think about it again. If I cross a reg bean male to fem bean. Would the offsprings males produce a higher female ratio??
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No.

Chronic Masterbator said:
I only had one fem bean cutting go Hermie on me. And that's when I went on vacation, left her in care with my cuzo:roll: Instead of pondering I just decided to go with regular seed stock and not worry about it. Just I wonder though cause I love those free fem beans.
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Feminized seeds are just as likely to "hermie" as regular seeds.
If you enjoy growing males, go for it.
 
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Baxters

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Trousers, you have got me wanting to make feminized seeds now, I have some females I would like to keep a seed stock of so I just might give it a go.

Do you have any good pointers on where to get colloidal silver? Preferably from the highstreet as I don't purchase anyting online for security reasons.
 
Trousers

Trousers

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I would be happy to help anyone that wants to make their own feminized seeds.
It is a great way to preserve plants that you love.
If you use the method I describe below, you will not get exact copies of the plant, but you will get very uniform seeds that are very similar to the mother.

Yes you are pollinating a plant with pollen from a plant that is genetically identical.
No you will not get hillbilly, inbred monsters.


Baxters said:
Trousers, you have got me wanting to make feminized seeds now, I have some females I would like to keep a seed stock of so I just might give it a go.

Do you have any good pointers on where to get colloidal silver? Preferably from the highstreet as I don't purchase anyting online for security reasons.
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Even when weed was illegal I was not worried about buying gear online. It is probably safer than going to a store.

Health food places might carry colloidal silver. You can get it at 500 ppm and then dilute it down a bit. I have heard you want 50 ppm at least. You can order it from amazon with out worries. Most people do not use colloidal silver for weed and most people have no idea you would.

I have only used Tiresias Mist, which is a colloidal silver solution. It works like a charm.

You can produce your own colloidal silver, but that has inconsistent results. You need pure silver, which can be had by the gram on ebay. I have never done it, so goggle it if you want. It seems pretty easy.

check my auto fem seed crop:
https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/548016-auto-feminized-seed-crop.html

You can pm me if you need any help.

Quick version:

Take two clones, one for seeds and one for turning into a trannie.
When they are established, or at the height you want start spraying one clone. (I spray the whole thing, some just spray a few branches. It depends on your goals, space etc)

Give it a decent misting 1-2 times a day. After about a week take the trannie and put it into flowering, leave the other clone in veg. The spray sets the plant back a couple weeks. Keep spraying the trannie for another 10-14 days. It should start showing balls soon there after.

After the trannie has been in flower for two weeks, put the clone you want seeded into the flower room. The trannie will throw pollen for weeks. You want it to be putting out pollen as soon as the buds are ready to take it. You can kinda bounce the trannie on the clone to really pollinate it. Save some pollen for later. Google storing marijuana pollen. You can freeze it for years and it will still be good if you do it right.

Remove the male when you are about 5 weeks away from picking. (Save pollen!)
I let the seeded buds go until the seeds are falling out of the buds. I toss the remaining bud material as it is all amber trichomes, CBN is gross.

I like big, fat seeds, so I let the plant go way longer than if I were growing for buds.

There are many different ways to do this. That is really a seed crop kind of way. You can selectively pollinate buds with your pollen. Just make sure you pollinate the buds about 6 weeks before picking so they can get big. A friend selectively pollinates lower branches then lets them grow longer than the tops to fatten the seeds.

Do it however it works for you. I like doing full on seed crops and getting hundreds and hundreds of seeds. As soon as I am done vacationing this summer, I am going to make a Blueberry seed crop, but also pollinate a couple other plants with blueberry pollen.

I have found the feminized crosses I have made the seeds are about 50% a mix of the parents. 25% take after the trannie and 25% take after the mom. In my opinion, the plant that supplies the pollen shows up a bit more in the offspring.
 
Chronic Masterbator

Chronic Masterbator

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I did read the thread my previous comment hints at fems value. I also know that any female has potential to go hermie. I know of several ways to produce fem seed. So Trousers enlighten me. Do you have a link showing that fems are not bad for the gene pool and or does not influence female;male ratio in offspring? Just for my reading delight and peace of mind?? Also why doesn't Simon from serious seeds not like em??

I also think to a small degree fem seeds is a breeders way of hoarding genetics. No offense I'm not a believe everything you read on the internet kind of guy.
 
zack66

zack66

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I've been running fem seeds for years and haven't been burned yet. I do stick with the same breeder. I've recently bought some purple widow unsexed seeds that are 5 weeks in and it's a pain in the ass to have to sex them. I'm waiting to grab one good female out of 20 to clone, and be done with this not knowing shit! Fem seeds all the way!
 
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Baxters

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Trousers said:
I would be happy to help anyone that wants to make their own feminized seeds.
It is a great way to preserve plants that you love.
If you use the method I describe below, you will not get exact copies of the plant, but you will get very uniform seeds that are very similar to the mother.

Yes you are pollinating a plant with pollen from a plant that is genetically identical.
No you will not get hillbilly, inbred monsters.





Even when weed was illegal I was not worried about buying gear online. It is probably safer than going to a store.

Health food places might carry colloidal silver. You can get it at 500 ppm and then dilute it down a bit. I have heard you want 50 ppm at least. You can order it from amazon with out worries. Most people do not use colloidal silver for weed and most people have no idea you would.

I have only used Tiresias Mist, which is a colloidal silver solution. It works like a charm.

You can produce your own colloidal silver, but that has inconsistent results. You need pure silver, which can be had by the gram on ebay. I have never done it, so goggle it if you want. It seems pretty easy.

check my auto fem seed crop:
https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/548016-auto-feminized-seed-crop.html

You can pm me if you need any help.

Quick version:

Take two clones, one for seeds and one for turning into a trannie.
When they are established, or at the height you want start spraying one clone. (I spray the whole thing, some just spray a few branches. It depends on your goals, space etc)

Give it a decent misting 1-2 times a day. After about a week take the trannie and put it into flowering, leave the other clone in veg. The spray sets the plant back a couple weeks. Keep spraying the trannie for another 10-14 days. It should start showing balls soon there after.

After the trannie has been in flower for two weeks, put the clone you want seeded into the flower room. The trannie will throw pollen for weeks. You want it to be putting out pollen as soon as the buds are ready to take it. You can kinda bounce the trannie on the clone to really pollinate it. Save some pollen for later. Google storing marijuana pollen. You can freeze it for years and it will still be good if you do it right.

Remove the male when you are about 5 weeks away from picking. (Save pollen!)
I let the seeded buds go until the seeds are falling out of the buds. I toss the remaining bud material as it is all amber trichomes, CBN is gross.

I like big, fat seeds, so I let the plant go way longer than if I were growing for buds.

There are many different ways to do this. That is really a seed crop kind of way. You can selectively pollinate buds with your pollen. Just make sure you pollinate the buds about 6 weeks before picking so they can get big. A friend selectively pollinates lower branches then lets them grow longer than the tops to fatten the seeds.

Do it however it works for you. I like doing full on seed crops and getting hundreds and hundreds of seeds. As soon as I am done vacationing this summer, I am going to make a Blueberry seed crop, but also pollinate a couple other plants with blueberry pollen.

I have found the feminized crosses I have made the seeds are about 50% a mix of the parents. 25% take after the trannie and 25% take after the mom. In my opinion, the plant that supplies the pollen shows up a bit more in the offspring.
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Thank you very much for the advice, I am very versed in seed production, and crossing but never created pollen from a female yet, infact since I have been keeping my crop alive by cloning I have almost forgotten about seeds.

It's only since I had alomst lost one of my strains to spidermites that it made me realise something I already know, and that's if you want to keep it then make a backup.

I have read about colloidal silver in the past, but somehow cannot find the aricle. I do understand the genetics and know that the parent plant only need be a female.

I would like to thank you for your information, I always prefer to listen to people who have actually succeeded in a practice rather than just a re-spun aricles on the internet.

I will have a look on amazon, and see if I can get stocked up with some and get making seeds again. Thanks again and you just might get a PM from me in the near future.
 
BluntM8

BluntM8

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i personally think reversing fem seeds is the best and fastest route to creating an ibl of your special pheno. why play games each generation by wacking your special pheno with a regular male? wait for it.... now someone will surely chime in about hybrid vigour, however the end goal is not for a hybrid. it is in fact the opposite, to stabilize specific traits
 
BluntM8

BluntM8

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imho breeders selling f1s and f2s are F'ing douches.. especially when they only sell reg seeds (you know who im talking about). just think, out of a ten pack, only 5 are female and HOPEFULLY 1 of those 5 is a decent pheno. then what, you are expected to clone that one plant forever or buy another 10 pack and search again... bullshit. Save yourself time and money and do like trouser said. buy fem seeds, select the best pheno, take 2 clones, reverse it into itself and BAM you now have a huge batch of seeds that are way better/more stable than what you would have bought. do this each generation and holy shit.. your on your way to a killer ibl as opposed to some breeders f1 hybrid that they are trying to call a strain.
 
Chronic Masterbator

Chronic Masterbator

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It just kinda bugs me out:shock:. Kind of like seahorses have babies. :shock:The male gives birth has contractions and all. Fem beans kind of like telling me a tranny can get a sex change and bear healthy normal children.:? Just bugs me out.
 
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