Fogdog
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I support gun owners using their guns on themselves. This is a valid use. Hunting, marksmanship competition and suicide. Those are all OK.
You should get this one and keep it near you at all times:
Let's talk about guns. . . . . .
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You should get this one and keep it near you at all times:
xtsho
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I have always found that those that are first to resort to name calling are those that know they are wrong and people I have no desire to continue any form of engagement with.
And please keep your word. Just as Biden does not want trump attending his inauguration, I don't want you replying to any of my comments.
I live in Portland Oregon and am no stranger to both Antifa and MAGA protests. But what happened in Washington the other day was exponentially worse than some hoodlums running through the streets vandalizing. What happened in Washington was so despicable on so many levels that anyone equating it to an Antifa protest needs to take some time and think about what really happened.
It's really appalling to see people make comments saying the MAGA types are not as violent as Antifa. It's one thing to destroy property. It's another thing to kill people. In the last few years the ones doing the killing have been the MAGA types. I don't recall Antifa or BLM protesters commiting murder. Including a Capitol Police officer.
It's one thing to protest and light fires and throw bottles at police in the streets. It's another thing to invade the Capitol of the United States of America where our elected officials were gathering. They were gathering to formalize the results of the last election. It was the MAGA types that were there to stop the process. Their goal was to nullify an election in an effort to keep the loser they voted for in power. It was an attempted coup led by trump and the rest of the traitors in his circle using the MAGA types as soldiers.
What to know about Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries after pro-Trump riot
Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick died from injuries sustained in the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Here's what we know.
www.usatoday.com
Kyle Rittenhouse, Accused In Kenosha Shootings, Pleads Not Guilty To All Charges
The suspect is accused of shooting three protesters in Kenosha, Wis., during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Two of his alleged victims were killed.
www.npr.org
Neo-Nazi Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Is Sentenced To Life In Prison
James Fields rammed his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in 2017, killing Heather Heyer and injuring many others. He pleaded guilty to 29 federal hate crimes, avoiding the death penalty.
www.npr.org
And if you want to go back even farther we can talk about timothy mcveigh who today would have been in that same crowd of MAGA had he not been executed for committing one of if not the worst case of Domestic Terrorism in US history. But the assault on our Capitol by A MAGA crowd even though the death count was much lower is worse on many levels.
This was probably going to be a rehearsal for what the MAGA crowd had in store for the Capitol.
6 suspects in alleged plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer indicted by federal grand jury
Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta each face up to life in prison if convicted.
State Capitols across the country are being besieged by armed MAGA in an attempt to overthrow elected government officials.
I don't care for Antifa but they are not plotting to kidnap and kill Congressmen and women, Senators, and Judges.
Here's some images of those peaceful MAGA protests for comparison to Antifa. There are some other very disturbing pictures showing the non-violent MAGA crowd dragging, beating, stomping, and using a flag to assault a Capitol police officer that I don't feel comfortable posting as they are too graphic. This is trumps non-violent law and order crowd.
trump and his cronies working up the troops prior to their attempt to overthrow the United States government.
A sea of trump and MAGA hats while peaceful protesters assault the Capitol.
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
I look at all these grinning idiots in the crowd as these domestic terrorists use their steel fence posts to beat up the cops.I have always found that those that are first to resort to name calling are those that know they are wrong and people I have no desire to continue any form of engagement with.
And please keep your word. Just as Biden does not want trump attending his inauguration, I don't want you replying to any of my comments.
I live in Portland Oregon and am no stranger to both Antifa and MAGA protests. But what happened in Washington the other day was exponentially worse than some hoodlums running through the streets vandalizing. What happened in Washington was so despicable on so many levels that anyone equating it to an Antifa protest needs to take some time and think about what really happened.
It's really appalling to see people make comments saying the MAGA types are not as violent as Antifa. It's one thing to destroy property. It's another thing to kill people. In the last few years the ones doing the killing have been the MAGA types. I don't recall Antifa or BLM protesters commiting murder. Including a Capitol Police officer.
It's one thing to protest and light fires and throw bottles at police in the streets. It's another thing to invade the Capitol of the United States of America where our elected officials were gathering. They were gathering to formalize the results of the last election. It was the MAGA types that were there to stop the process. Their goal was to nullify an election in an effort to keep the loser they voted for in power. It was an attempted coup led by trump and the rest of the traitors in his circle using the MAGA types as soldiers.
What to know about Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries after pro-Trump riot
Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick died from injuries sustained in the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Here's what we know.www.usatoday.com
Kyle Rittenhouse, Accused In Kenosha Shootings, Pleads Not Guilty To All Charges
The suspect is accused of shooting three protesters in Kenosha, Wis., during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Two of his alleged victims were killed.
Neo-Nazi Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Is Sentenced To Life In Prison
James Fields rammed his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in 2017, killing Heather Heyer and injuring many others. He pleaded guilty to 29 federal hate crimes, avoiding the death penalty.
And if you want to go back even farther we can talk about timothy mcveigh who today would have been in that same crowd of MAGA had he not been executed for committing one of if not the worst case of Domestic Terrorism in US history. But the assault on our Capitol by A MAGA crowd even though the death count was much lower is worse on many levels.
This was probably going to be a rehearsal for what the MAGA crowd had in store for the Capitol.
6 suspects in alleged plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer indicted by federal grand jury
Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta each face up to life in prison if convicted.www.mlive.com
State Capitols across the country are being besieged by armed MAGA in an attempt to overthrow elected government officials.
I don't care for Antifa but they are not plotting to kidnap and kill Congressmen and women, Senators, and Judges.
Here's some images of those peaceful MAGA protests for comparison to Antifa. There are some other very disturbing pictures showing the non-violent MAGA crowd dragging, beating, stomping, and using a flag to assault a Capitol police officer that I don't feel comfortable posting as they are too graphic. This is trumps non-violent law and order crowd.
trump and his cronies working up the troops prior to their attempt to overthrow the United States government.
A sea of trump and MAGA hats while peaceful protesters assault the Capitol.
And it makes me think about the old time lynching pictures.
xtsho
Well-Known Member
Same mindset. Just a different time.I look at all these grinning idiots in the crowd as these domestic terrorists use their steel fence posts to beat up the cops.
And it makes me think about the old time lynching pictures.
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Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
Oh? Can you please explain where I’ve twisted things? What percentage of the number I quoted are in fact self inflicted?
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
Every government policy you support is backed by the threat of gun use.
You love using guns against people you can't peacefully persuade to endorse your ideas.
Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
Well said and so true.......The hypocrisy runs deep.I have always found that those that are first to resort to name calling are those that know they are wrong and people I have no desire to continue any form of engagement with.
And please keep your word. Just as Biden does not want trump attending his inauguration, I don't want you replying to any of my comments.
I live in Portland Oregon and am no stranger to both Antifa and MAGA protests. But what happened in Washington the other day was exponentially worse than some hoodlums running through the streets vandalizing. What happened in Washington was so despicable on so many levels that anyone equating it to an Antifa protest needs to take some time and think about what really happened.
It's really appalling to see people make comments saying the MAGA types are not as violent as Antifa. It's one thing to destroy property. It's another thing to kill people. In the last few years the ones doing the killing have been the MAGA types. I don't recall Antifa or BLM protesters commiting murder. Including a Capitol Police officer.
It's one thing to protest and light fires and throw bottles at police in the streets. It's another thing to invade the Capitol of the United States of America where our elected officials were gathering. They were gathering to formalize the results of the last election. It was the MAGA types that were there to stop the process. Their goal was to nullify an election in an effort to keep the loser they voted for in power. It was an attempted coup led by trump and the rest of the traitors in his circle using the MAGA types as soldiers.
What to know about Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries after pro-Trump riot
Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick died from injuries sustained in the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Here's what we know.www.usatoday.com
Kyle Rittenhouse, Accused In Kenosha Shootings, Pleads Not Guilty To All Charges
The suspect is accused of shooting three protesters in Kenosha, Wis., during unrest in the city following the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Two of his alleged victims were killed.
Neo-Nazi Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Is Sentenced To Life In Prison
James Fields rammed his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in 2017, killing Heather Heyer and injuring many others. He pleaded guilty to 29 federal hate crimes, avoiding the death penalty.
And if you want to go back even farther we can talk about timothy mcveigh who today would have been in that same crowd of MAGA had he not been executed for committing one of if not the worst case of Domestic Terrorism in US history. But the assault on our Capitol by A MAGA crowd even though the death count was much lower is worse on many levels.
This was probably going to be a rehearsal for what the MAGA crowd had in store for the Capitol.
6 suspects in alleged plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer indicted by federal grand jury
Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta each face up to life in prison if convicted.
State Capitols across the country are being besieged by armed MAGA in an attempt to overthrow elected government officials.
I don't care for Antifa but they are not plotting to kidnap and kill Congressmen and women, Senators, and Judges.
Here's some images of those peaceful MAGA protests for comparison to Antifa. There are some other very disturbing pictures showing the non-violent MAGA crowd dragging, beating, stomping, and using a flag to assault a Capitol police officer that I don't feel comfortable posting as they are too graphic. This is trumps non-violent law and order crowd.
trump and his cronies working up the troops prior to their attempt to overthrow the United States government.
A sea of trump and MAGA hats while peaceful protesters assault the Capitol.
PadawanWarrior
Well-Known Member
Look it up.
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
Why don't gun owners fight as hard for a nice private suicide pill or something less painless/messy for others to clean up then?
It really seems by how much you think it matters, that is the biggest reason (outside of hunting/sport shooting) to have a gun.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Dirty little secrets about guns.
All gun owners have at least had a passing thought of blowing their brains out with it.
All gun owners plan and train to kill people.
injinji
Well-Known Member
64% is the number that is thrown around. I'm sure it goes up and down, but it's in that neighborhood.
injinji
Well-Known Member
Dude you are so off base it's not even funny. I'm a gun collector and have way above the average for Americans. I can't stand running over a turtle in the road, much less plan and train to kill people. Having to kill a person would be the worst thing I could think of. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it if forced, but it would fuck up the rest of my life.
PadawanWarrior
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Finally some common sense.
smokinrav
Well-Known Member
From wiki
] In 2018, the most recent year for which data are available as of 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) National Center for Health Statistics reports 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide and 13,958 were homicides.[
] In 2018, the most recent year for which data are available as of 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) National Center for Health Statistics reports 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide and 13,958 were homicides.[
Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
Look up how you say I twisted things? It would seem you’re not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
All legal gun owners do train to use a gun in a safe, responsible manner, here anyways, and we are actually trained not to kill people. How a person uses that gun is a personal choice. It does seem like guns mean more than hunting and target shooting for many in the US. Your statements will only lead to nothing at all happening, and are not helpful. But again I’m pretty happy with our laws here, although longer sentencing for gun crimes would be nice. As I said earlier, what you guys do and how you try and achieve your goals, what ever they are, is your fight. What I do know is when I hear that over 50,000 people die each year (for any reason) you’ve got a problem.
Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
Dirty little secret, everyone at least once has considered offing themselves. Guns seem handy I guess. I would be more inclined to do a giant whack of Mexican mud myself
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potroastV2
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Budley Doright
Well-Known Member
My goto quote when talking to my techs is, “It’s better to say nothing and let others assume your dumb, try not to say things that prove it”. Always thought it is a very insightful life lesson.But, but ...
he thinks he's a genius!
