Local Hydro Shop gave me some Green Sand and said it was for taste?
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Kevdogg5555
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sounds like bs + who the hell wants to transplant before flowering??? Your just gonna stress the plant and have a weaker yield. I keep my plants the the same pot the whole time.
Greensand is good stuff, but VERY slow to break down. You really notice the benefits when you recycle the soil. Takes ~3 years to fully break down. Add it when you first make the mix.
Kelp meal would serve you better. I use the GS and kelp meal in conjunction with each other.
Of course you transplant before flower. Trying to flower a root bound plant? That makes no sense.
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Kelp meal would serve you better. I use the GS and kelp meal in conjunction with each other.
Of course you transplant before flower. Trying to flower a root bound plant? That makes no sense.
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PJ Diaz
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No, but if you compost add it to your compost. IMO, bone meal is pretty much the same deal -- it takes so long to break down it's not worth it. I always laugh when noob growers say they add bone meal during flowering. They do make a "liquid bone meal", and that's a different story. These days they have fish bone meal, which breaks down much quicker.
bird mcbride
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I get a nice clean sweet taste by removing all the additives.
PJ Diaz
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No, because it takes longer to break down and become usable to your plants than your flowering cycle lasts. Fish bone meal breaks down a lot faster though.
Rascality Afoot
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Love the greensand for my flower beds, but as folks have already said, it takes forever to break down, no point with our herb. For taste, flush with extra fancy blackstrap mollasses from the healthfood store. It keeps plants happy and buds swelling while flushing. I know alot of people hate on flushing, but I've done side by side comparisons, and the flushed herb was tastier and burned better.
Chronic Indica
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My advice to you is to use a mix that you know works, I have yet to try subcool's supersoil but I have seen it in hightimes magazine and man does it look like it gets the job done. Unless you want to experiment with soil mixtures, take a look online for the mix. He uses roots organics base along with blood meal, bone meal, kelp meal, bat guano, etc. Subcool is legendary and I wouldn't doubt his soil. Better than getting ripped at the hydro store where they usually are just trying to make sales, I would say. Anyway have fun and happy growing.
PJ Diaz
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Supersoil also takes a couple months to cure. Best bet is to simply use Espoma or Kellog organic fertilizer mixed into your soil along with a healthy dose of earth worm castings. Both Espoma and Kellog include mycorrhizae, so you're covered there too.
GanjaGod420000
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Yeah, I've NEVER heard of greensand having a thing in the world to for with taste... I do firmly stand behind it's use in soil recipes, however... The Espoma Greensand I use is an 0-0-0.1, and is a wonderful addition to any good, home-made soil recipe... It helps with aeration and irragation, and contains some nice marine derived glaucomite and has iron-potassium silicate in it.... It helps to make the medium looser which is a good thing to use in conjunction with different things like peat moss, coco coir, cotton burr, dolomite lime, epsom salt, kelp, and vermiculite (all in the correct portions to the amount of medium), which all contain good trace minerals and micronutes, that are essential in a well-rounded base for a soilmix including the ingredients that contain good macro-nutes, of which, although natural and organic in nature, are often slow-acting, like rock phosphate and bone meal, along with other soil-additives like feather meal, alfalfa meal, cocoa meal, blood meal, worm castings, P- and N- rich bat guanos(usually adminestered at the proper stages of development, via teas), and so forth, and so on... I use a little plastic kiddie pool and a yard rake and hoe to pour my pre-measured amounts of these various things into, and thoroughly mix them all together, and then scoop into my five-gallon buckets, about every two or three grows, and I will add some of these things from time to tim, as my plants show me they need them, and then discard the old dirt into my "pile" in the corner of my buddies yard, where I grow at... I use liquid seaweed that I dilute with distilled water for weekly waterings, as well as foliar sprays during the vegetative stages, which helps protect the leaves and stems, by putting on a natural barrier, of sorts that safeguards against certain pests and diseases, and I also use black strap molassas, diluted in water during flowering, once or so a week, and it seems to enjoy the natural sugars it provides the Mycorrhizae, which is the living fungi in the soil, which are divide into two types-endomycorrhizas, and ectomycorrhizas... It all works together in healthy soils to breakdown the elements and minerals and prepare them to be taken up into the plants in quite an effective manner... It acts as a natural protection against pathogens and root predators, and also helps water's relationship with the medium, especially during a dry spell, which is essential if u r growing outdoors, where u cannot or do not go every single day, and may not have a controlled watering system in place... There is much to be said and learned from such home-made soil mixes, and it is interesting to know exactly what is in everything to do with your medicine's life...
bird mcbride
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I'd say the best investment for cleaning your plants is RO water for the last 24hr cycle. I never flush with the roots on.
Chronic Indica
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Very true, the first batch of soil i would make double let it cook for 2 months then repeat so you don't run out. Or just do what you said. lol, good shit.