Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

jsatch

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It's completely understandable that a person who listens to their leader lie to them 35,000 times during his time in the WH and can cite chapter, cite chapter and verse the Benghazi tales, and (just guessing) believes Trump won in 2020 would have antipathy to facts based news reports.
I've actually never listened to his speeches. He's quite boring and tends to babble on...

But that doesn't make me wanna go on a 6 year witch hunt like you triggered losers. Get a hobby guys, you're emotionally compromised by a man that spends most of his time golfing these days and hasn't been president in nearly 2 years.

You have a vendetta because you're all vindictive and spiteful.

It's pathetic.
 

Fogdog

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I've actually never listened to his speeches. He's quite boring and tends to babble on...

But that doesn't make me wanna go on a 6 year witch hunt like you triggered losers. Get a hobby guys, you're emotionally compromised by a man that spends most of his time golfing these days and hasn't been president in nearly 2 years.

You have a vendetta because you're all vindictive and spiteful.

It's pathetic.
My life is just fine, thanks.

I have a vendetta? I'm vindictive and spiteful? How do you know that? Can you read my mind?

Dude, when Trump won in 2016, I offered congratulations to the righties who come here. I did that because I was ready to move on and see how well Trump would do. I didn't want him to fail miserably. I was in the same boat, I wanted it to remain on a good course.

Fast forward to Nov, 2020. Was there anything like that coming from the GOP MAGA fascist crowd? Hell no. They wanted to steal my vote and overturn a perfectly run election. They completely ignored facts and chose to believe the Big Lie. Then all sense of sanity was blown away on Jan 6 when the mob Trump raised attacked Congress in an attempted bloody coup and attempted murder of his political opponents.

I don't want revenge, I want to protect our democracy from fascism. Any patriot would too.
 
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doublejj

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The current Executive Order implementing this statutory command was issued by Barrack Obama in 2009.

Among other things, the order limits the authority to declassify certain information, placing under the Director of National Intelligence the authority, “after consultation with the head of the originating Intelligence Community element or department,” to “declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence relating to intelligence sources, methods, or activities.” Those are the types of information classified as “top secret” and “separate compartmented information” (SCI) that the FBI retrieved from Mar-a-Lago.

Various regulations promulgated under the Executive Order require consultation with the agency that originally classified information before anyone may try to declassify it, because those agencies have what is called, in the intelligence world, “equity” in the information that must be protected.

There are numerous other statutory and regulatory restrictions that prohibited Trump from doing what he now claims to have done, including restricting the power to declassify any documents containing information relating to nuclear weapons and intelligence agents.

Significantly, some of the materials that the Justice Department just reported among those seized were identified as “human source” information, carefully regulated by statute.

The presidential executive order also specifies that no official leaving government service may “remove classified information” from the government’s control or “direct that information be declassified in order to remove it from agency control.” Thus, for obvious reasons, even an official who has the authority to declassify information may not do so in order to take it with him as a souvenir when he leaves office.

Of crucial importance, the Supreme Court has held that restrictions like these were effective to prevent a president from lawfully and effectively doing what Trump now purports to have done.

In the Nixon Tapes case, which I argued many years ago, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that a president is bound by otherwise valid regulations so long as they remain in force, as all of the declassification restrictions did throughout the Trump presidency.

Nixon had tried to block the Watergate special prosecutor from pursuing evidence in the president’s custody (the secret White House tape recordings), arguing that the prosecutor, as the president’s subordinate in the executive branch, had to defer to the president’s constitutional supremacy as “chief executive.” In reasoning equally applicable to Trump’s current argument, the unanimous court noted that the prosecutor was operating under regulations issued by the attorney general (and approved by the president) that gave the prosecutor autonomous authority to pursue evidence from anyone, and the president could not interfere with that quest: “So long as this regulation is extant it has the force of law.”

The court also rebuffed the contention that the president’s ultimate control over the regulations and the attorney general who issued them undercut their binding effect on the president: “t is theoretically possible for the Attorney General to amend or revoke the regulation defining the Special Prosecutor’s authority. But he has not done so. So long as this regulation remains in force the Executive Branch” — including the president there — “is bound by it, and indeed the United States as the sovereign composed of the three branches is bound to respect and to enforce it.”

Trump has never claimed that he revoked or amended the applicable 2009 executive order governing the declassification processes or directed the modification of any of the regulations issued under that presidential order, which bind the entire executive branch, including him, in controlling the declassification process.

Recognizing the principles at stake, a federal appeals court held in 2020 that a clumsy public reference by Trump to a secret program had not accidentally or effectively “declassified” the information: “Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures … Because declassification, even by the President, must follow established procedures.” (Emphasis added.)

Therefore, attorney general Garland and the rest of the country can ignore Trump’s smokescreen about whether he “declassified” the Mar-a-Lago documents: He didn’t, because he couldn’t. Thus, Garland need decide only whether threats of violence will cow him into giving Trump another pass.
the current supreme court doesn't believe in legal precedent
 

topcat

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you would imagine that a harvard law graduate would be smart enough to stay the fuck away from trump... :dunce:
Trump has blackmailed all the sycophants. The mention of info on the French president in the document seizure sealed that thought in my mind. We will find out about Graham, Cruz, Johnson, Jordan, many others in time. It's total panic for all of them and it's a pleasure to watch them squirm.
 

printer

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I've actually never listened to his speeches. He's quite boring and tends to babble on...

But that doesn't make me wanna go on a 6 year witch hunt like you triggered losers. Get a hobby guys, you're emotionally compromised by a man that spends most of his time golfing these days and hasn't been president in nearly 2 years.

You have a vendetta because you're all vindictive and spiteful.

It's pathetic.
Actually we do not mind not hearing of Trump ever again. But when democracy is at stake we can not stick our heads into the sand.
 

Herb & Suds

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:clap: :lol:
Trump has blackmailed all the sycophants. The mention of info on the French president in the document seizure sealed that thought in my mind. We will find out about Graham, Cruz, Johnson, Jordan, many others in time. It's total panic for all of them and it's a pleasure to watch them squirm.
I can’t decide if I enjoy watching him suffer or watching his supporters melt down , more
It’s delicious
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Trump has blackmailed all the sycophants. The mention of info on the French president in the document seizure sealed that thought in my mind. We will find out about Graham, Cruz, Johnson, Jordan, many others in time. It's total panic for all of them and it's a pleasure to watch them squirm.
Trump thinks that the French President marrying his teacher is BIG news … lol.
Who hasn’t banged a teacher ?

Ah yes … Mrs. Dominguez … she was a horny little minx.
 

dstroy

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I've actually never listened to his speeches. He's quite boring and tends to babble on...

But that doesn't make me wanna go on a 6 year witch hunt like you triggered losers. Get a hobby guys, you're emotionally compromised by a man that spends most of his time golfing these days and hasn't been president in nearly 2 years.

You have a vendetta because you're all vindictive and spiteful.

It's pathetic.
It really sucks to be a faketriot right about now.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I've actually never listened to his speeches. He's quite boring and tends to babble on...

But that doesn't make me wanna go on a 6 year witch hunt like you triggered losers. Get a hobby guys, you're emotionally compromised by a man that spends most of his time golfing these days and hasn't been president in nearly 2 years.

You have a vendetta because you're all vindictive and spiteful.

It's pathetic.
This is an attempt to reduce an objective argument to one of sentiment. It is being employed by those whom fact either does not serve, or does specific harm. It constitutes an admission.
 
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