My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!
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tmsculli
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Day 4
I woke up this morning to two beautiful little sprouts above the rockwool, but with some other bad information. I think that I may have dried out one or more of the other seeds. I'm not yet positive, but I think at least one of them is going to be ruined. I wish that I got all 5 of them to sprout, but I am pretty sure I screwed up.
It's hard to get a picture of, but the one seed looks like the initial stem that comes out is shriveled.
I woke up this morning to two beautiful little sprouts above the rockwool, but with some other bad information. I think that I may have dried out one or more of the other seeds. I'm not yet positive, but I think at least one of them is going to be ruined. I wish that I got all 5 of them to sprout, but I am pretty sure I screwed up.
It's hard to get a picture of, but the one seed looks like the initial stem that comes out is shriveled.
tmsculli
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So, the two sprouts that I have look great. The lights are nice and close and they look happy. The others I can't tell what is going on. I think that I may have dried a few of them out and they have died. I am hoping that at least one more makes it.
5 would be a little much, but I was hoping to deal with it.
I do have a question though. I have the 20x22x4' box that has the capability of being 100% dark. I was thinking about not having a mother plant. Do you think I can just veg, then clone right before I flower? I want to flower one plant at a time to keep a small but kinda steady flow.
What do you think I should do?
5 would be a little much, but I was hoping to deal with it.
I do have a question though. I have the 20x22x4' box that has the capability of being 100% dark. I was thinking about not having a mother plant. Do you think I can just veg, then clone right before I flower? I want to flower one plant at a time to keep a small but kinda steady flow.
What do you think I should do?
purpdaddy
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It wont work out like that bro,,do research on Sea Of Green..Thats the op you need to shoot for if you wanna clone..or like a miny SOG.
tmsculli
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Day 5
Sad to report that we do have casualties. I was hoping that I would be doing a stellar first grow and impress the hell out of everyone, but of course, I'm not haha. Two of my seeds did dry up in the rockwool. That is completely my fault. I should have watered them more. I had read too many times that over watering is the biggest noob killer for plants, so I was afraid.
That being said, I have 2 extremely healthy sprouts, and one seed that I think may make it. The seed has all sorts of green stuff coming out so it looks happy. I am happy to only have 3 plants now though. I am going to re-work my lighting fixtures and make it so that each plant has its own 3 6500k daylight bulbs above and to the sides of it for maximum light.
I have the middle seed that may grow directly under 4 6500k cfls with 2 more 6500cfls on the side, if it doesn't sprout, I will be upset haha.
So, my camera just died so I can't upload pictures this second. I am going to charge it for a minute and then put them up on here.
I also made another carbon filter yesterday and took my time with it. I think it may work. My fan didn't bog down much at all, but the suction from it still seems pretty weak.
I have the 8" inline 500cfm fan 8' in the air in the ceiling venting into the attic. I also have a 75cfm 4" fan pushing area from the bottom area to the top, and a small fan circulating air. Do you think that the 8" is even doing anything? I guess there is no real way to tell until I get to time where stuff smells? What do you think?
Also, one more question. I have humboldt nutes and was wondering when to add them. Should I wait until the 3rd one sprouts, or should I try and take advantage of the health of the other 2?
Thanks guys!
please, questions, comments, etc!
Sad to report that we do have casualties. I was hoping that I would be doing a stellar first grow and impress the hell out of everyone, but of course, I'm not haha. Two of my seeds did dry up in the rockwool. That is completely my fault. I should have watered them more. I had read too many times that over watering is the biggest noob killer for plants, so I was afraid.
That being said, I have 2 extremely healthy sprouts, and one seed that I think may make it. The seed has all sorts of green stuff coming out so it looks happy. I am happy to only have 3 plants now though. I am going to re-work my lighting fixtures and make it so that each plant has its own 3 6500k daylight bulbs above and to the sides of it for maximum light.
I have the middle seed that may grow directly under 4 6500k cfls with 2 more 6500cfls on the side, if it doesn't sprout, I will be upset haha.
So, my camera just died so I can't upload pictures this second. I am going to charge it for a minute and then put them up on here.
I also made another carbon filter yesterday and took my time with it. I think it may work. My fan didn't bog down much at all, but the suction from it still seems pretty weak.
I have the 8" inline 500cfm fan 8' in the air in the ceiling venting into the attic. I also have a 75cfm 4" fan pushing area from the bottom area to the top, and a small fan circulating air. Do you think that the 8" is even doing anything? I guess there is no real way to tell until I get to time where stuff smells? What do you think?
Also, one more question. I have humboldt nutes and was wondering when to add them. Should I wait until the 3rd one sprouts, or should I try and take advantage of the health of the other 2?
Thanks guys!
please, questions, comments, etc!
purpdaddy
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Hey man it woulod be a good idea to add a couple lower kelvin bulbs to get a more dual spectrum.You say you got 3 on each plant right? well iwould add another lower kelvin bulb or take one 6500K out and pput the lower kelvin bulb in its place.Thats what you mist go when using cfls.
When you flower,do the opposite.
tmsculli
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I have 4 2700k bulbs sitting around that I can use. I thought that the 2700 were good for flowering and the 6500 were good for vegging? Is it just best to have all of the spectrum?
Anyone try those "all spectrums of light" cfls? What is the deal with them?
I may do 2 6500 and 1 2700 per plant.
pics should be up in a few minutes
Anyone try those "all spectrums of light" cfls? What is the deal with them?
I may do 2 6500 and 1 2700 per plant.
pics should be up in a few minutes
tmsculli
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Here are today's pictures:
Sprout 1
Sprout 2
QUESTION:
The lights are very close to the sprouts so I am not stretching them, but they are bending a bit. It looks like they are bending to make the top of the leaves exposed to the light.
Does this mean that I should rig them up so that the light is directly above the plant?
Sprout 1
Sprout 2
QUESTION:
The lights are very close to the sprouts so I am not stretching them, but they are bending a bit. It looks like they are bending to make the top of the leaves exposed to the light.
Does this mean that I should rig them up so that the light is directly above the plant?
tmsculli
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I just checked on them again. The last seed that I thought may still be alive I think is no good. There are small leaves coming out of the seed, but they are all shriveled. THey are still a little green though. I am leaving it in another day, if nothing happens, then I will trash it. If I am only left with two, I am going to be making a small container to grow two of them better
BlackRoses
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Keep the seed dude, some seeds just take a little longer to develope..
that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad seed or a bad strain.. I've had seeds that were under developed then turn out to be large yielders..
It's true what they say.. what doesn't kill a seed, only makes it stronger
sometimes you need to give it a helping hand too.. make it slightly wet, then press it gently but not to break it (sounds dirty I know)... this will weaken it a bit, thus making it easier for the leaves to breakout..
Peace and good luck bro,
that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad seed or a bad strain.. I've had seeds that were under developed then turn out to be large yielders..
It's true what they say.. what doesn't kill a seed, only makes it stronger
sometimes you need to give it a helping hand too.. make it slightly wet, then press it gently but not to break it (sounds dirty I know)... this will weaken it a bit, thus making it easier for the leaves to breakout..
Peace and good luck bro,
tmsculli
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Yea I just downsized everything. I am pretty sure 3 are no good, but I may put them into a separate thing and mess with them and see what happens. I now have 2 plants in the top of a 5 gallon bucket. It makes everything easier. I have more room, easier to work with, more effective and focused lighting too
purpdaddy
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Yes or move them around more to get even light distribution to all plants.Sprouts lookin A1 bro.Here are today's pictures:
Sprout 1
Sprout 2
QUESTION:
The lights are very close to the sprouts so I am not stretching them, but they are bending a bit. It looks like they are bending to make the top of the leaves exposed to the light.
Does this mean that I should rig them up so that the light is directly above the plant?
tmsculli
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Okay, so I have some huge issues that I need very quick help with.
1) My temp is too high. I am chilling around 80-84*F a lot and I can't get it down. I have fans and vents and open doors and it wont go down. I know a lot of that is because the lights are close, but people told me to put them that close. I backed them up and hopefully that helps, but I am hoping the plants wont stretch.
2) Confused with watering. My plants are not yet getting watered from the reservoir and bubbles below. I am having a hard time telling when to water them. I know a huge noob thing is over watering, so I am trying to avoid that.
3) They look terrible. I got home and the left ones leaves are pointed directly up and it is leaning, and the other is almost completely bent over.
I moved back the lights, put on another fan, opened my door and watered them. Anything else I should do. Pics will be up in a minute
Thanks guys
1) My temp is too high. I am chilling around 80-84*F a lot and I can't get it down. I have fans and vents and open doors and it wont go down. I know a lot of that is because the lights are close, but people told me to put them that close. I backed them up and hopefully that helps, but I am hoping the plants wont stretch.
2) Confused with watering. My plants are not yet getting watered from the reservoir and bubbles below. I am having a hard time telling when to water them. I know a huge noob thing is over watering, so I am trying to avoid that.
3) They look terrible. I got home and the left ones leaves are pointed directly up and it is leaning, and the other is almost completely bent over.
I moved back the lights, put on another fan, opened my door and watered them. Anything else I should do. Pics will be up in a minute
Thanks guys
purpdaddy
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1-Raising the light wont lower the temp.The light is still there putting out as much heat as it did before you moved it.My temps runnin 82-83 my last grow it got on the 90s.You ok in that area
2-At this point the RW needs to stay saturated,thats why we use feeder tubes and a sprinkler hub.It waters the plants for you and keeps the RW saturated.
3-You need to lower the light back so they wont stretch your problems are elswhere..Whats the ph and what strength nutes you using and what nutes?Man they were lookin damn good..make sure the light is directly on top of em andif they leanin that much they must be stretchin meanin the light was still too low..please post pics..you prolly just trippin.
tmsculli
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I wanted to do bubbleponics, but I can't afford it. I dropped $700 on my setup and supplies for my first grow and that is soooooo much. I keep trying to find information on watering. People seem so scattered about it. I can't tell if I am over or under watering them. I am using NO nutes as of right now. My ph is good between 5.5 and 6.0 I check it twice a day and only adjust it once a day max.
Here are pics of what is going on
The new setup because I am down from 5 plants to 2
Vertical Leaves? - Looked it up, looks like heat stress.....
Drooooopyyyyy
I don't want to fail this grow guys, what the heck is going on =[
Here are pics of what is going on
The new setup because I am down from 5 plants to 2
Vertical Leaves? - Looked it up, looks like heat stress.....
Drooooopyyyyy
I don't want to fail this grow guys, what the heck is going on =[
tmsculli
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Reading around it is looking like this:
The pointy leaves, the droopy stem, the redness of the stem, all of them point to these.
-Too much heat
-Not enough light
-Too much water
How is it possible that I could not have enough light? There are 4 6500k and 2 2700k bulbs under that sheild all very close to the plants. Each plant has 2 6500s directly above it and then 2700s are kinda in the middle.
The pointy leaves, the droopy stem, the redness of the stem, all of them point to these.
-Too much heat
-Not enough light
-Too much water
How is it possible that I could not have enough light? There are 4 6500k and 2 2700k bulbs under that sheild all very close to the plants. Each plant has 2 6500s directly above it and then 2700s are kinda in the middle.