My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!
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purpdaddy
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It is none of that man,trust me they just need sumthin to hold em up!Plenty of light for now,You just trippin.The color is in the genetics of the strain.They Ok
bloatedcraig
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You enthusiasm at the start was infectious, as soon as i had finshed reading you grow i went upstairs and checked on my babies.
Anway dont worry about the heat that much and get you self a bottle sprayer and spray the cube every two days.
I wouldn't personnally keep the rock wool saturated, keep it damp and dont worry about giving it a squeeze to check, you know when something is damp and when something is soaked.
You have easy enough light, i bought up my first lot on 3 18watt 2700k and they are massive now.
Have a look at getting in to LST (low stress trainning) i know your just starting but it is a good thing to get into with cfl's you will get a lot more yeild, but that is for later down the line.
I am in for the long haul with ya.
Anway dont worry about the heat that much and get you self a bottle sprayer and spray the cube every two days.
I wouldn't personnally keep the rock wool saturated, keep it damp and dont worry about giving it a squeeze to check, you know when something is damp and when something is soaked.
You have easy enough light, i bought up my first lot on 3 18watt 2700k and they are massive now.
Have a look at getting in to LST (low stress trainning) i know your just starting but it is a good thing to get into with cfl's you will get a lot more yeild, but that is for later down the line.
I am in for the long haul with ya.
purpdaddy
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There is no way u have ANYTHING massive with 3-18w 2700k cfls.
Good thing to start with cfls?What OTHER kind of lighting were you using..and its necessary to keep the RW WET so you know the entire RW plug is wet down to the bottom giving the sprout plenty of food to eat,It also needs to be oxygenated(feedertubes delivers highly oxygenated nutes from the res to the plant with air pump and bubble disk/bar)),,even water around it on the hydroton..you really need the hub and feedertubes,,you can get the hub at homedepot to lowes and everything else at petsmart for really cheap
bloatedcraig
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went on to a 400 watt hps afterwards i am just trying to explain that he is ok for know.
Probably should have kept the rockwool out of the hydroton for now and just sprayed the rockwool
purpdaddy
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Yea or do that until they roob but u still gotta water em,why not let the feedertubes do that for u.Delivers highly oxygenated nutes to the roots
which will make them root faster which will make em grow faster.
Yea that 400w will do the trick!!Im using a 400w. setup but yea hes cool for now but is gonne need more bulbs or light intensity time to come.
tmsculli
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BloatedCraig, thanks for the pointers. I will have to look into LST and see what that is all about. This time around I just want to run the cycle start to finish, after that I will start messing around with different techniques with my clones afterwards.
Purp, like I said before, I want to do the feeder tubes, but I really can't afford it right now. I can't find a decent pump around 100-150gph that isn't going to wreck my finances. Things are tight right now because of the $700 I already have into this.
My issue with watering is this:
My lights dry out my rockwool extremely quickly. If I were to keep them moist at all times, I would definitely be overwatering the sprouts and possibly cause some damage. I am going to keep playing it by ear and seeing what happens I guess.
Thanks for the kind words and advice, I really appreciate it.
Purp, like I said before, I want to do the feeder tubes, but I really can't afford it right now. I can't find a decent pump around 100-150gph that isn't going to wreck my finances. Things are tight right now because of the $700 I already have into this.
My issue with watering is this:
My lights dry out my rockwool extremely quickly. If I were to keep them moist at all times, I would definitely be overwatering the sprouts and possibly cause some damage. I am going to keep playing it by ear and seeing what happens I guess.
Thanks for the kind words and advice, I really appreciate it.
tmsculli
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Well, this surely won't break the bank.
What do you guys think about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/EcoPlus-Submersible-Water-Pump-185gph/dp/B0018WVNXC/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1252025452&sr=8-17
What do you guys think about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/EcoPlus-Submersible-Water-Pump-185gph/dp/B0018WVNXC/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1252025452&sr=8-17
purpdaddy
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Hell yea bro all you need is a trickle!
tmsculli
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Done:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0019TKZC4/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
I haven't found anything near the price of that pump in stores so I am going to order it. Earliest it says it can get here is Tuesday, I guess that will have to do.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0019TKZC4/ref=pd_luc_mri?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
I haven't found anything near the price of that pump in stores so I am going to order it. Earliest it says it can get here is Tuesday, I guess that will have to do.
tmsculli
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Sprinkler hub? What's that? Is that the connection from the pump to the irrigation hub? I have tubing out the ass here haha, hopefully something fits.
Also, can you close the outputs on that hub? I only have 2 plants right now, I feel like 6 is over doin' it haha
But, here is good news!
I decided to take the rockwool out of the hydroton, and I was happy and excited to see a small skinny whit root hanging from the bottom on BOTH of the plants!
Also, can you close the outputs on that hub? I only have 2 plants right now, I feel like 6 is over doin' it haha
But, here is good news!
I decided to take the rockwool out of the hydroton, and I was happy and excited to see a small skinny whit root hanging from the bottom on BOTH of the plants!
tmsculli
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Purp, I linked one in an above post. You had me scared that I needed another thing. i ordered the hub and the pump, they should be here by Tuesday!
Day 7
I just checked on my ladies and things look 1/2 good. The left sprout is thriving. It is large, tall, healthy, green as hell, and is starting to produce its second set of leaves. The other, not so much. The other is short, weak, bent, vertical leaves, and some slight yellowing on the tips of the 2 leaves.
Pics are uploading as usual, will post them in a few minutes.
Hopefully when you see the pics you may be able to help me fix the runt =/
Thanks!
EDIT:
So, this question has been answered. I have found enough sources pointing to this problem that I think I can assume what it is. The runt is overwatered. The rockwool always was the "soggiest" out of all of them. Also, last night I noticed that the main root was dangling about 1/16" below the net pot. That means that within the past few days it was only a bit shorter than that. The hydroton in the netpot is nice and moist at the bottom, so that means that the root was probably watering the plant adequately on its own. Sadly, I didn't know this and kept watering it.
Am I correct in assuming that now that I have a root down out of the net cup that I should no longer top water?
Day 7
I just checked on my ladies and things look 1/2 good. The left sprout is thriving. It is large, tall, healthy, green as hell, and is starting to produce its second set of leaves. The other, not so much. The other is short, weak, bent, vertical leaves, and some slight yellowing on the tips of the 2 leaves.
Pics are uploading as usual, will post them in a few minutes.
Hopefully when you see the pics you may be able to help me fix the runt =/
Thanks!
EDIT:
So, this question has been answered. I have found enough sources pointing to this problem that I think I can assume what it is. The runt is overwatered. The rockwool always was the "soggiest" out of all of them. Also, last night I noticed that the main root was dangling about 1/16" below the net pot. That means that within the past few days it was only a bit shorter than that. The hydroton in the netpot is nice and moist at the bottom, so that means that the root was probably watering the plant adequately on its own. Sadly, I didn't know this and kept watering it.
Am I correct in assuming that now that I have a root down out of the net cup that I should no longer top water?
purpdaddy
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Ok now go to petsmart or somewhere where they sell tubing for fish tanks and get that blue or clear tubing..dont need much.Thats it..you gotta AUTO-FEEDER now!
tmsculli
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The healthy lady:
The drowning lady:
Funny thing is that this whole time I thought that the vertical leaves was a bad thing. I re-checked my Jorge Cervantes Medical Bible and found that leaves will often position themselves in odd ways to be the most efficient. The small yellow spotting around the edge was the big deal, which was overwatering.
Now that I know what is wrong, hopefully I can fix it, nurse that lady back to health and get these things rollin!
What do you guys think?
Oh! Purp, I was thinking last night, is that pump that I bought going to be too big/intense for a 5 gallon bucket setup? I moved them to the bucket to be more efficient, but if necessary I could always use the tub again adn then just plug the excess holes.
The drowning lady:
Funny thing is that this whole time I thought that the vertical leaves was a bad thing. I re-checked my Jorge Cervantes Medical Bible and found that leaves will often position themselves in odd ways to be the most efficient. The small yellow spotting around the edge was the big deal, which was overwatering.
Now that I know what is wrong, hopefully I can fix it, nurse that lady back to health and get these things rollin!
What do you guys think?
Oh! Purp, I was thinking last night, is that pump that I bought going to be too big/intense for a 5 gallon bucket setup? I moved them to the bucket to be more efficient, but if necessary I could always use the tub again adn then just plug the excess holes.
bloatedcraig
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I know how you fell mate, the start up cost is ridiculous.
I have put a lot of money in to my setup, the plants get more money than my children hahaha.
Hopefully one day we will reap the rewards.
tmsculli
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Craig, oh man I agree haha. My problem is that I am a DIY guy, with high creativity, too much $$ for my age, impulse buyer, and too lazy to return shit I don't use.
Once I get everythign rolling the stuff that I really can not use I need to return and try and get something back.
And hey, we will both see the benefits eventually. Not to mention that the start-up costs no longer matter! Huzzah for my current college business education! Not only do they not "matter" in decision making or effecting anything else, but we won't give 2 shits once we have some pretty ol' buds starin' at us =P
One day at a time.
Oh, and I don't know why I can't find this anywhere, but how long is this grow probably going to take? Also, any ideas on what I could expect to yield?
Once I get everythign rolling the stuff that I really can not use I need to return and try and get something back.
And hey, we will both see the benefits eventually. Not to mention that the start-up costs no longer matter! Huzzah for my current college business education! Not only do they not "matter" in decision making or effecting anything else, but we won't give 2 shits once we have some pretty ol' buds starin' at us =P
One day at a time.
Oh, and I don't know why I can't find this anywhere, but how long is this grow probably going to take? Also, any ideas on what I could expect to yield?