My Worst Nightmare Just Happened Please Help!

justugh said:

guys .........here is something most of u have not thought about

a power supply for a grow system is about the same as a computer .............for a cover if u are running a major grow why not set up a simple server farm ........this would be a reasonable reason why your power bill goes up .............u just need to increase the traffic out of your place ..............u can sell the server space to some ppl online and they will basically help u off set your bills along with provide u with cover

i use to run 4 tower computers at a time was building my own super computer for file sharing ...............i just turned them off and the power bill is the same as it always has been minus the times i cook moonshine

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justugh said:

i looked into this about keeping the power down

if u are in a area that windpower is possible u can get yourself a 2kw or a 5kw wind system and that will supply most of the power u need plus make u a few bucks back after time ..............your looking at set up out of pocket about 5 to 7k after the rebates and all that the cost is some where around 30 to 35k to have it set and ready to go

in my area i would be back to even after 2.2 years of running it then from there i make money on having it

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And after he converts his rental into a wind farm/ server hub he can put up a big neon sign on the roof that says " IM NOT WEIRD AND THIS ISNT A GROW HOUSE".. cause that will explain some of the power usage too and deflect attention

BustinScales510 said:

And after he converts his rental into a wind farm/ server hub he can put up a big neon sign on the roof that says " IM NOT WEIRD AND THIS ISNT A GROW HOUSE".. cause that will explain some of the power usage too and deflect attention

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no it called making money in a digital age ...............wind give power hell if he wanted could get a 10 kw rig set up that would supply the hold thing plus the server farm and put power on the grid for money in pocket

run the numbers for yourself .............if this guy has the land and the money to do it right.........this is how i would do it if i was him i spent hours thinking about in the end it is the goal for me

the server farm is a cover ..........what happends when u run power tho electronics they get warm so if he is listed as a server farm then no matter what flair saids unless he gives them a reason they have nothing .............hell run a add on server for the cloud or even a basic FTP server (i have several of those for sharing files )


i figured out this model for a biz while back but i do not have access to the land nor the funds ..............so i picked up growing for myself and to supply funds to the project
done right the system is up and running out of money is back in your pocket 2 years (all legal money u can show) the money from making ppl happy with good weed decent price put it in gold or silver or start trading it in currency markets ...........if u hadd 1000 GPS (englands pounds) buying tem monday for 1.62 and selling them today for 1.66 40 bucks in money just for 4 days plus the money is now clean and can be added to bank account

Except the part where I don't have the 35k just lying around haha. But you have deffinently peaked my interest and I will at some point in my life switch to this. But I gotta have a start up plan before I can even save 35k lol. So should I got with my plans or try maybe leds? Or lower the watts and save up to get the wind power.

Should I just go with leds? Like grow once then drop 5-6k on http://store.prosourceworldwide.com/Illuminator-Pro-Series-Hybrid-350W-LED-Grow-Lights-p/illuminator pro- series 350w.htm

to help u make cash

i started off with CFLs it took me a whole month of not eating to start myself up (2 months eat once every other day)

i would get this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0070193PU/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it is a dial a watt ballast with a built in timer.......this way u can use it for anything u want 400 600 1000w

and run some Advance Seeds BioDiesel Mass ..................just grow them in a 7 gallon bag in 72/75 days u should have 5 to 7 oz (more if u have better skills then me)
i been parting with my OZ for 300 bucks (it cost me 90 bucks a plant to grow power feed seed soil).....u figure out your cost then u times it by 3
1 for recovering the cost u spent
2 for doubling up next time
3 for your time and trouble of growing it

the other choice is if u have buddies (old buddies that u been tho shit with) and they want some of what u have tell them to give u 200/300 for the start up cost and they are locked for a life time price of 300 ........anyone that did not pay u to start up they get it for 350 (that is the avg for a oz in my area)

So your gonna purchase a place then use cfl's and led lighting. That will never make money imo.

Solar (PV) Array with gridtie inverter can help offest usage but startup cost is high.

Diesel genset is a good way to go. You haul your own fuel so nobody knows how much you use. Gotta worry about neighbors though.

Really if your new at growing don't expect to be awesome overnight.

dam $450 a month thats wuts up

Ok so I'm gonna clarify what's happening cuz it sounds like some people are confused. I'm going to try to get some more startup cash and buy like 4-6 big bud 343 leds. And grow some autos to fund for the rest then set up my co2 and veg and mother tents and be solid. I really feel like leds is the way to go for me especially because I hate fucking with heat issues and I hate installing millions of fans and ducting and I want to have a lot lights but minimal power usage like under 3k of leds That should be enough maybe more later. But ya no cfls and I'm not a newbie just in leds.

OK then

led are set for 50000 hours ........running a 20/4 the whole time is will get u 82 months of running none stop every day that is 41 grows (2 months a grow) go for Black Star.............they have the best rep fof LEDs and a pretty good coverage plan

here is a 500w they say covers 12x12 i would think more 8x8
900w..........i hear a 600w led is equal to power to a 1000w hid .....so this one whole be a 12x12
u are still going to need a system to exchange the air out ...............u should attempt to account for cooling and heating needs along with humidity.........and u have the choice of carbon filter or a ozone gen

as for Co2 i can offer u a choice i enjoy .........moonshine u use the brew buckets to supply co2 and when the time is up u cook the mash down and get a gallon of 140% shine u made
i can tell u how to build a stil for under 500 bucks total (it cost me 32 bucks materials and power to make 2 gallons of shine that makes me 100 a gallon and supplies the tent with more then enough co2 for several days )

You're being overly concerned with electricity usage while ignoring another potential problem. You're renting a house. That means inspections. Make sure whoever you're renting that home from doesn't do monthly inspections, lives out of state,etc.

All that said, if you're concerned with electricity, invest in a solar panel or two..If you can cut down electricity by at least 50% that's a win and the solars will pay for themselves in no time.

Also, a couple days ago a light bulb came on in my noggin. Diesel generators last longer than gas. "diesel generators burn about half the fuel that a gasoline generator does. This advantage can be offset somewhat depending upon what the current price of diesel is, but for the most part, a diesel generator costs less over time to use."

So basically, what you want to do is simply do the math. Would it actually be cheaper to buy diesel and run a generator. Would buying diesel as opposed to paying an electric bill be cheaper, or about the same? Unless it's going to cost you i'd say 15% more buying diesel than what your electric bill would be than a diesel generator would be a nice option. I could be beyond wrong, but I was thinking about the whole diesel generator aspect and if it would be cheaper than a flat out electric bill.

I was thinking about using 4-6 of these in my 8x8 flower and 2 in veg http://www.growevolution.com/lights/bud-boss-343/
Unless someone could prove me wrong about these. I mean 600$ for one and the more you. Get the cheaper so for 6 it'd be 459ea or so. AndiI have ventilation and lots of fans and a big ass filter.

@nookies
The house I'm getting is beat to shit on the inside they let the other people destroy it and never gave a fuck to fix it or stop them from doing it.So them checking up on me won't be an issue.So the deal is 450$ a month and my labor to fix the place up and I can design it whatever way I want and they pay for all supplies. So a couple months work and I can move in.

they look good but i do not know the brand name

led lights are formulas .......the different amount of lightwaves they give off ......each brand patterens the formulas so others can not copy it

if u can see if they will supply u a list of the light waves they admit and cross check against Black Star/ Black Dog (those are the 2 best led makers)

they say 5 year warrenty ........i would double check to see what that covers and double check on the ppl that made it (are they going to be around in 3 years or 5)


oh your building ............can i say hidden grow area using the child locking magnets to hold the drywall inplace (when u want to get in take magnet to the spots move the latch and the wall comes off so u can enter) ...............my house is older built in the early 80s so we have a hidden are under the stairs for storage (too cold for me to use it)..................and since u are building it u can tie in any venting to the dryer vent/sewer vent/chimme

when u are about to move out .......take all the stuff out of the room and show the owner what u did so they can show the next ppl and he can ask for more rent (the hidden room can be a safe place to store stuff or hide like a panic room if break in )

hey let me find the link we have a led vert grow with those lights and im seeing medium size nugs not big nugs. i can suggest an led that will produce big nugs dense and tight. here is his grow. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/755206-vertical-scrog-led-closet-grow.html it works but nugs are not big enough compared to hps. here is the lights to get. https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/786696-led-lights-work.html for a 8x8 i would get 4 of the smaller ones 240watt will cover all easy and then you can adjsut each 2x2 area higher or lower depending on strain. they have the right led spectrum and has 7 bands. then use 2 in your veg room. now you have 6 lights so say for whatever reason 1 fails in bloom room you take one from veg room and bam then you get other replaced. plus if you order 6 they might give you 1 for free i bet they will if you order on the phone. solar is expensive takes years to get it back, but a good choice to save you money. wind lmao it works for awhile but brakes down moving parts fail. solar is the way to go. i would go with tents also so you can use 1 bed room to run it all. you willl need to get an eltrician their tell him its your hobby room and get 4 20 amp circuits put in. if you go 30 it will cost you 3 times as much per citcuit. and 2 circuits will run your 8x8 easy leaves 1 for 4x4 and 1 for what ever.
love and peace.

The more I look at blackdog platinum xl with 5w diodes but how many would I need to cover 20-30 autos? 2? But I might just have to buy another 1k hps set up and use my existing and pumped out one or 2 runs this way to collect the cash for the blackdogs. How many watts would grow those autos in hps? 2k-3k? I don't wanna waste a bunch of money on hids when I'm swithcing led but ya if that's what it takes then ill have to waste money on more hids

i though you were going to say you got busted. that nothing start over again,

I wanna see some pics of those 7 ounce autos.

Damn is that kid pussy whipped HAHA!

I would of tossed her out and said "see ya" then kept growing.

CokeyoDrips said:

It's obviously not the same in every region, but I have a friend that works for hydro. He has reassured me multiple times that the particular hydro company that I deal with does not rat anyone out for excessive consumption. The misconception stems from police using electric bills to obtain warrants and make busts. However, what most people don't realize is that the police approached the electric company to acquire such information. So basically, you are already under investigation before the police even know your electricity specifics.

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BINGO!!!! They also do this WITHOUT A WARRANT! and then proceed to GET ONE in order to cover their ass'

i will comb tho the libary i have here

the orginal tablet fell and does not work so i can not pull anything off those and everything on my phone has been cleaned (about to get a new one contract is up so this one is clean and ready to turn in )

there u go .......first is bio diesel about 3 weeks or 4 weeks(before done) 2nd better shot 3rd was when it was just starting with the rest of them in the tent(back was candy kush and trans saberian front was the monster biodiesel mass and berry ryder)...........i got a monster auto that is going to give me way more then 7 oz but that might be a auto since i am going on 80 days....orginally started with Blue Mammoth from Barney's Farm ....i messed it up

and like i said i have 2 600w a MH and a HPS in a 4x4x6 tent (pic 3)

i am just starting anouther bio (i mean i put the seed in the plug at 6 pm) i will post u pics of her when she is done and the thc bomb (just asked me in 45 days or so)



ok your lights ..........do not run 20/30 man that is way to much to handle alone stick with 8 plants and let them earn u money as u do that u can get bigger fix the place up

if u do not want HIDS fans and all then LED is the way to go just get 2 a flowering and a veggie 500w to 900w (this will allow u to start 4 grow them they flip to flower u move start 4 more and keep it going u will pull in weed once a month each month)


rem the more complex the more that can go wrong keep it simple stuip(not making fun of yah old saying keep it simple stuip).........900w grow in a 6x6 area more then enough for 4 bio diesels to get happy and big

Nigga well I got a grocery list and all and total amount. Now I guess since the last I posted I lost my room mate and found a new one and the house I was gonna get got sold a day before I was supposed to be signing:O. Anyways your not that only person who's said start small. Well reason being why I'm doing 24 is because you can get a 12pot tritan system for 500$ then buy 2 6pot extensions for 100$ea to make it a 24. Now ill be running 24 autos in total maybe not at first maybe just 12 but also there's a part of me thats probably just gonna do 24

I mean hid lights aren't that expensive
Super Hps 1000w -66$
1000w ballast- 240$
Reflector -88$
So about 400-450$ per light and I already have one 1k convertible. I mean why not spend an xtra 200$ for 12 more and add another 800 in lights and then once my autos are done I take one light and put it in my veg and ill have 2 rooms with the same amount of wattage as I had before. Just sounds more simple to invest ahead instead of buying shit like this when I'm actually commiting a crime