Natural Sources of Myco?

I understand that mycorizhae <spelling error) is some sort of mushroom.
Would that mean anything that grows off of mycelium in the forest is an active source of myco?

I have not studied this but has anyone found a natural source for this?

Can I culture mycelium around roots of a plant and have a positive effect?

Or is it the mushrooms that grow off the mycelium what does it?

http://www.humboldtnutrients.com/root-stimulants/myco-madness/


I don't know much about it yet but i have been reading a little, got a free sample of the myco madness but havent tried it yet

I sell that, but I wanna know what I could gather from my local forests and cliffsides. I think it would be awsome if cabenzies could grow on a thriving plants root base.

an 8 oz cup of great white mychorizzae costs 80 bucks. ive seen first hand the explosive results. If the active myco is nothing more than mycelium and mushrooms than I could harvest it myself. i know great picking spots for psyonescience and cabenzies and edibles like shaggy parasols and chantrels and oyster shrooms. if anyone knows something I would love to hear it.

If you're looking for an easy dose of micro-organisms in general: simple, garden compost, the older the pile the better.

I make a "compost tea" with it. I also add Great White for an extra kick. But really, the compost alone does wonders. The Great White does help keep things stable, top notch. My compost alone can sometimes get unpredictable, sometimes minor pH fluctuations and hints of different smells, but the plants don't seem to mind much overall.

I don't know anything about wild mushroom spores. A guy I know (hiking budy) who picks mushrooms used to tell me there are different kinds of fungus for different environments and with different kinds of plants. Some have specific, symbiotic relationships to pine treas, certain herbs, some strictly decompose... and lots of other stuff.

Anyway, he says he's not surprised about simple garden compost. He's also one of those all organic gardening kind of guys.

You might find this thread interesting, if you haven't already seen it:

How to Breed Your Own Beneficial Microbes

vh13 said:

If you're looking for an easy dose of micro-organisms in general: simple, garden compost, the older the pile the better.

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Yep. That's all you need.

Also, there are different species of myco, endo and ecto, which define the symbiotic relationship between the plant and the fungi. Mushrooms aint gonna cut it. What it's growing in is full of microbes.

Save the mushrooms for your spaghetti sauce.

UB

while we're on the subject of myco ( i know this is a natural source thread) but, alot of people might chime in with Great White, Humbolt Myco. Plant Success (same company who makes Great White) puts out an inexpensive myco that works muthafuckin wonders and it's only about 20 bucks a quart. Plant Success is the name of the product BTW.

Just wanted to make that statement before people start throwing out the names expensive cannabis specific mixes.

Pardon the interruption ......back to your regularly scheduled program

so are you saying the myco maddness is some good stuff?

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so are you saying the myco maddness is some good stuff?

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I'm saying there is less expensive out there that is just as good as the high priced stuff. Your OP says that you have a sample and haven't tried it. TRY THAT SHIT!!! myco makes your roots EXPLODE!!!

ataxia said:

I'm saying there is less expensive out there that is just as good as the high priced stuff. Your OP says that you have a sample and haven't tried it. TRY THAT SHIT!!! myco makes your roots EXPLODE!!!

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sweet im def gonna, would you recommend adding it to my soil or water?

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sweet im def gonna, would you recommend adding it to my soil or water?

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in an AACT for best results, with some molasses for food.
(actively aerated compost tea)

I don't use compost tea's

then with water?

cool thanks

if you are running synthetic i would definitely not mix myco with strong fertilizer, as the high salt content might kill them.

Composted cow manure is great.
Its what I use.

For some more information and a cheap source, try Fungi Perfecti. www.fungi.com

AFA growing yer own, I'm trying that now, from a short article in a Rodale publication.

Goes sorta like this: Myco's need roots to grow on, you just can't culture them like bacteria and such. Myco's have a real strong affinity for the Allium family (Onions, Garlic, Shallots, Leeks).

The Rodale article was using Leeks to grow the Myco. What I did last fall was do 20-5gallon buckets of inoculated Alliums. 12 of 2 variety's of garlic, 6 of shallots, and 2 of leeks.

We'll see what happens, as I'm still about 6 weeks from harvest date. I grow garlic and shallots anyway, but did beef up the mix a bit for the recycle, mainly in the form of the rock dust's/minerals/trace. Super slow release stuff.

Wet

SCARHOLE said:

Composted cow manure is great.
Its what I use.

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i recently got a few bags of WestCoast Gardener's Composted Cow Manure and was unimpressed with a few things.
Their "High Quality Mulch" was wood chips
it was sold by the Kilo (9kg per bag) and was dripping wet, the bag had no holes.
it didnt seem all that "Composted"
all in all its not a big deal, im just going to add it to the hot composter

Does anyone know if mycelium is good for your roots? is the "myc" in mycelium whats doing it or the broken down carbs from the compost? I love compst but I want specific natural myco. They show mushrooms on myco madness as if their claiming the mushrooms do it. but mushrooms and mycelium are not the same thing. mushrooms grow off of mycelium so which one is it?

hoagtech said:

Does anyone know if mycelium is good for your roots? is the "myc" in mycelium whats doing it or the broken down carbs from the compost? I love compst but I want specific natural myco. They show mushrooms on myco madness as if their claiming the mushrooms do it. but mushrooms and mycelium are not the same thing. mushrooms grow off of mycelium so which one is it?

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Mushrooms are the sex organs of the mycelium. They're the same organism.

And no, it's not simply broken down carbs from the compost. The fungi actually inject themselves into the root structure of the plants, kind of like a parasite, except its a symbiotic relationship, mutually beneficial. In this way, the fungi also acts as a shield against pathogens.

damn i feel like im in science class lol good info... im diggin it