Natural Sources of Myco?

max316420 said:

So would it be useless to use in flowering, I know roots still grow in flowering but would it be that beneficial? Or should it be started after clones are first transplanted? I'm just debating on whether to use it on a couple of test ladies im doin or wait til my next crop.

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vh13 said:

Furthermore, Heisenberg says that in an ideal hydro-system, beneficial micros are actually not necessary unless used to fight off a pathogen, because an ideal hydro system already provides the plants with everything they need, there is nothing the micros can enhance. My own experiences with pure hydro would seem to support his statement.

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One technique in culturing other beneficial microorganism is getting them fro your local aged forest. One way is finding a healthy old robust tree in your local forest.

Check the humus litter around the tree. The tree should have accumulated real deep humus, litter, compost of at least 2 feet to 1 yard deep. In this area through observation, we can deduce that soil fertility and microbial biodiversity are high.

Our goal is to trap and culture these diversed, aged beneficial indigenous microorganisms. The technique that we use in trapping these microorganisms is the use of carbohydrate like cooked rice. Microorganisms will be attracted to food.

So generally, what we do is to put the cooked rice on a flatter container with lid. For example, you can use a plastic lunch box and add about an inch of cooked rice allowing air space in the container. What is important here is a larger area to trap those microorganisms. It is suggested that you cover this container with metal netting or equivalent protecting it from animals like rats that may undig your container once you bury it in the litter, humus of your local forest. In 2-10 days (relative to temperature), you may undig your container and will notice contamination of microorganisms like white and other color molds on the cooked rice.

The cooked rice has been infected now with microorganisms of your local forest. The next step is to add 1/3 amount of crude sugar or molasses to the infected cooked rice. After a week, the concoction will look like sticky, liquidy rice. You may then add equal amount of crude sugar or molasses to keep it for storage, arresting microbial activities, in a cooler area.

To use, you may dilute this serum with 20 parts water. This diluted form shall then serve as your basic forest microorganisms. You may strain it and put in a container.

Another version of trapping similar forest microorganisms is simply getting the litter, humus and spreading them sparingly to the top your cooked rice. Forest leaf molds can also be used.

The same procedure will be followed as described in the culture of local forest microorganisms.

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Heisenberg said:

Remember my statements pertain to a DWC system using synthetic nutes. Also, there are secondary benefits such as not having to cool the res or make it completely light proof. Also, re inoculation doesn't just include myco spores, but bacteria and trichoderma. Mycos will live a long time probably as long as the roots are alive, but the other stuff cycles and needs replaced, especially since we don't feed them.






Myco does not refer to mycelium, but to mycorrhiza, which is greek for fungus roots. It is a specific type of fungus, so not just any mushroom would do. It is however omnipresent in natural soil, especially forest detritus. There is a method for collecting your own beneficials from the wild. I copied this article to my notes one time and apologize for not being able to site the source, but here is the instructions.



I have never tried this myself but I think it's along the lines of what you were looking for. This would collect many beneficials but to get actual myco spores, you would want to use composted soil. This is because mycos will not germinate until they make contact with roots, so they wouldn't be attracted to the rice cake.

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