No fillibuster for Repukes.Talks move forward

SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
the best thing would be for you to simply die. Nice friends you have.
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see i can chop quotes down to fit my argument as well...
I dont take hand outs especially one that puts stress on our entire economy. Im sorry that i have pride. besides whose friends are requesting a board to decide when the proper time to deny medical services and allow a person to DIE is? Sure seems fitting that a congressional board or a board of medical professionals gets to decide when I'm worth saving.
I hope every last one of you who wants this bill to be passed becomes sucessful so you have to feel the repercussions of your actions. Maybe then you will change your tune. It's funny how the "greedy" people arent the ones actually asken to be given something. No im sorry demanding to be given something.
Big government is NEVER the answer. simple as that.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Jack*Herrer420 said:
The problem is that you expect everybody to pay for this mess, even if they want nothing to do with it. Most Americans don't support this, and every single poll proves this. Is it such a hard concept to grasp that americans don't want the government telling them what to do? You could be on any side of the aisle and see how government is contolling the people. But once you get someone in office that you support, you disregard any government influence or control.
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Jack believe me I do understand you not wanting to pay... Some people just built like that...I'm the type that I don't mind helping other just as long as I have some left for me and mine..This bill will not stop me from doing anything in life that I was not doing before ..and people who before who could not get insurance for what ever reason be it poor, pre-existing condition, cost to high, company didn't offer,got dropped......well what ever reason..now they too can get health care...yes I know its some lazy MF out in this world, but its also some good hard working people, as well as single parents, college students, and others....again I have to pay other insurance bills that cost way more then this going to cost me, so I fail to see why others are so up in roar...Is it because Obama doing it ???? Did you scream so loud when you had to pay for the Iraq war ????? What about when you were paying 4- 5 dollars a gallon for gas...did you blog then my friend ????? Or is it now you just decided to get political in the world...??? just curious .... Hey I think Health Care For All is great for this country START LEADING THE WAY AGAIN AMERICA......Don't be afraid of progression ...
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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londonfog said:
The agency estimates that the proposal would reduce the federal deficit by $130 billion over the next 10 years, through 2019. Any effect on the deficit in the following decade would be "subject to substantial uncertainty," but probably would result in "small reductions in federal budget deficits," according to budget office analysts.and thats coming from the CBO..
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so it will only take ten years to recoop 1/8th of the initial cost. sounds like a win win situation there buddy.:dunce:
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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londonfog said:
Is it because Obama doing it ????
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this is now the third or fourth time that you hae brought this up. come on. If Bush had tried to push this bill through i would have been just as aggravated. and yes I was right there yelling against the invasion of iraq. The government has no businees interfering with my personal liberties or those of any one in any other country. period.
So stop the oh yor just scared of the black president you wouldnt complain if it was Bush. thats just a weak argument and makes you look stupid
 
londonfog

londonfog

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SmokeyMcChokey said:
this is now the third or fourth time that you hae brought this up. come on. If Bush had tried to push this bill through i would have been just as aggravated. and yes I was right there yelling against the invasion of iraq. The government has no businees interfering with my personal liberties or those of any one in any other country. period.
So stop the oh yor just scared of the black president you wouldnt complain if it was Bush. thats just a weak argument and makes you look stupid
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actually that was directed at jack not you.... If it was directed at you I would have quoted you
 
londonfog

londonfog

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and by the way you said that you can't afford health insurance Smokey...Well buddy I'm going to pay for it for ya....:-P You just thank Obama
 
Jack*Herrer420

Jack*Herrer420

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londonfog said:
Jack believe me I do understand you not wanting to pay... Some people just built like that...I'm the type that I don't mind helping other just as long as I have some left for me and mine..This bill will not stop me from doing anything in life that I was not doing before ..and people who before who could not get insurance for what ever reason be it poor, pre-existing condition, cost to high, company didn't offer,got dropped......well what ever reason..now they too can get health care...yes I know its some lazy MF out in this world, but its also some good hard working people, as well as single parents, college students, and others....again I have to pay other insurance bills that cost way more then this going to cost me, so I fail to see why others are so up in roar...Is it because Obama doing it ???? Did you scream so loud when you had to pay for the Iraq war ????? What about when you were paying 4- 5 dollars a gallon for gas...did you blog then my friend ????? Or is it now you just decided to get political in the world...??? just curious .... Hey I think Health Care For All is great for this country START LEADING THE WAY AGAIN AMERICA......Don't be afraid of progression ...
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I don't want the government telling me I have to buy insurance, or I have to buy anything for that matter. The rich will pay, the poor will not. This is a socialist bill. I believe that people should decide who/when to donate the money that they earned, not having the government telling people that they must pay for those who can't afford it. If people had their priorities straight, they would be able to afford health care. They believe that it is more important to be entertained by tv/computer/radio/vehicle etc., that they can't afford what is truly essential. Our health care system is the greatest in the world, and the only argument I have heard against that is that people can not afford it. Do we not still have the most advanced technologies, best doctors? When is the government going to step in and force the rich to provide food/shelter/clothes you name it. In a liberals mind, everything is a right and must be provided by the government. And we're not really leading the way when most other countries have socialized medicine that is failing. What are we going to "lead the way" in, please explain.
 
Philo2

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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I guess the senate no longer feels that they have to follow the constitution. The rule of law is dead, the congress and senate are usurping powers when ever they feel like it.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Jack*Herrer420 said:
I don't want the government telling me I have to buy insurance, or I have to buy anything for that matter. The rich will pay, the poor will not. This is a socialist bill. I believe that people should decide who/when to donate the money that they earned, not having the government telling people that they must pay for those who can't afford it. If people had their priorities straight, they would be able to afford health care. They believe that it is more important to be entertained by tv/computer/radio/vehicle etc., that they can't afford what is truly essential. Our health care system is the greatest in the world, and the only argument I have heard against that is that people can not afford it. Do we not still have the most advanced technologies, best doctors? When is the government going to step in and force the rich to provide food/shelter/clothes you name it. In a liberals mind, everything is a right and must be provided by the government. And we're not really leading the way when most other countries have socialized medicine that is failing. What are we going to "lead the way" in, please explain.
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ROFL..ooohhhhhh socialist bill (dude say that in a scary voice..lol..) are you a teabagger ..lol.... for real...its a bill trying to get Health care to all the people....What the phuck is the use of having the best doctors and technology if the people can't afford to use it...stuck on stupid hit the play button please.....
 
Jack*Herrer420

Jack*Herrer420

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londonfog said:
ROFL..ooohhhhhh socialist bill (dude say that in a scary voice..lol..) are you a teabagger ..lol.... for real...its a bill trying to get Health care to all the people....What the phuck is the use of having the best doctors and technology if the people can't afford to use it...stuck on stupid hit the play button please.....
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Forcing the rich to pay for the poor is a socialist idea. You have said yourself that those capable of paying should "suck it up" and pay extra. What do you not understand? There are people starving in America, so I guess the government should force those with money to pay for that too right? Let's have the government decide where our money should go. Lets level out the playing field. Do you not understand that nothing in this world is free, and to get what you want you have to WORK for it? But I guess I'm the stupid one.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Jack*Herrer420 said:
Forcing the rich to pay for the poor is a socialist idea. You have said yourself that those capable of paying should "suck it up" and pay extra. What do you not understand? There are people starving in America, so I guess the government should force those with money to pay for that too right? Let's have the government decide where our money should go. Lets level out the playing field. Do you not understand that nothing in this world is free, and to get what you want you have to WORK for it? But I guess I'm the stupid one.
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Good idea glad you thought of it
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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londonfog said:
yeah you also say that greed can't increase..soooooo....what you say is pretty :dunce:
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And you can't grasp the concept of greed or the human condition.

It's basic Philosophy 101.

Didn't you learn these basic concepts in school?

BASIC.... very


Like I said previously, the nuances of issues seems to escape you.
 
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Has anyone stopped to consider that if our government did a halfway decent job instead of constantly spawning new bureaucracies to hire more armies of apparatchiks who contribute no value, we could have a huge tax cut and still have enough left over to provide all the healthcare and everything else for everyone in America and probably Mexico too.

I have no problem with society collectively providing for the baseline needs of it's members. But our federal government has proven over and over and over that it is hopelessly incapable of being society's instrument to accomplish that.
 
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