One 1200 dollar light or 3 400 dollar lights?

Doug Dawson · Jul 24, 2020

RonnieB2 said:
If that 1200 dollar light fails. You're out 1200. If one 400 fails you're out 400. Its a matter of what you like ultimately but, I personally am a fan of several less expensive lights vs 1 really expensive one. You have more options too. You can move one or two lights to another grow, play around with coverage, run 1 or all 4

I would also add if you lose your $1200 light in the middle of your grow what will you do to fix it as your plants won't want to wait for their next light cycle? At least with multiple lights you can move them around a bit until you get a replacement. It also gives you the ability to move individual lights closer or further away depending on the plants needs. Just something I would think about. I always worry about having just one of a major component in case of failure.

Oversoul · Jul 24, 2020

I really like the versatility of having 3 different lights that are like 40"x 6" which makes me leans toward the Mars SPs. But I just have the feeling Mars is a lower quality deal than a brand name like Gavita. I don't have any rational reason for this feeling though (other than being a Chinese reseller like you said.) But like you've said, the important thing is to have those Japanese diodes with the USA drivers.

Oversoul · Jul 24, 2020

Doug that's a really good point that I hadn't really thought of. Another point for multiple fixtures.

Oversoul · Jul 24, 2020

Thank you all for replying to my first post. I haven't found the "like" button yet lol.

Doug Dawson · Jul 24, 2020

Oversoul said:
Thank you all for replying to my first post. I haven't found the "like" button yet lol.

Don't sweat it brother, welcome to RIU :bigjoint:

Cinco · Jul 24, 2020

Oversoul said:
Doug that's a really good point that I hadn't really thought of. Another point for multiple fixtures.

It is huge for disaster recovery too because keeping one light on with a battery backup to keep your cycle is easier, parts are swappable, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, the Mars grows good weed. Just at a premium price for non-premium components.

PadawanWarrior · Jul 24, 2020

Oversoul said:
Thank you all for replying to my first post. I haven't found the "like" button yet lol.

You need to be a member for 2 days and get likes from 3 separate people for that to appear.

F80M4 · Jul 25, 2020

Oversoul said:
I've got a 5x5 for flowering on order and am trying to decide how to light it. I was initially sold on the Gavita 1700e but I can't get the idea of 3 Mars Hydro SP 3000s out of my head. I'm sure the Gavita is a higher quality fixture (and has a better warranty) but I can't help thinking that the extra wattage (680 on the Gavita vs 900 on the Mars x3) and the overlap would give me more light. Anyone wanna try to talk me into one set up or the other?

I have a friend that hit 4p per light on the gavita leds

Bosgrower · Jul 26, 2020

Take a look at https://mammothlighting.com/collections/frontpage/products/new-uv-series-10-bar-led-grow-light-8-standard-2-uv-bars-740w-with-dimmer-knob-rj-port-uv-switch. US company in upstate NY. Bars are self contained. If one fails the others keep going.

piratebug · Jul 26, 2020

Screw them premade kits, buy components individually, or build a strip build. Seriously, it isn't that hard, and you can light up at least (3) 4 x 4 area's for less than $1200 buckaroos...

Oversoul · Aug 2, 2020

Cinco said:
It is huge for disaster recovery too because keeping one light on with a battery backup to keep your cycle is easier, parts are swappable, etc.

Don’t get me wrong, the Mars grows good weed. Just at a premium price for non-premium components.

The Mars I'm looking at uses Samsung top bins (a few osram reds) and a 300w meanwell driver.

Cinco · Aug 2, 2020

Oversoul said:
The Mars I'm looking at uses Samsung top bins (a few osram reds) and a 300w meanwell driver.

I have one of them. It’s okay. The lights from Meijiu are a better value. Mars has a potentially better warranty.

I’ve never had to deal with either on warranty. I would probably buy another light instead.

Osulax2131 · Aug 28, 2020

Not a US company ...google nalite alibaba ...mammoth Is just rebranded Chinese lights ...the drivers and bars fail on nalite lights way too much for my liking ..they honor there warranty but no thanks

Bosgrower said:
Take a look at https://mammothlighting.com/collections/frontpage/products/new-uv-series-10-bar-led-grow-light-8-standard-2-uv-bars-740w-with-dimmer-knob-rj-port-uv-switch. US company in upstate NY. Bars are self contained. If one fails the others keep going.

Bosgrower · Aug 28, 2020

Osulax2131 said:
Not a US company ...google nalite alibaba ...mammoth Is just rebranded Chinese lights ...the drivers and bars fail on nalite lights way too much for my liking ..they honor there warranty but no thanks

Based on what actual information? All "bar" fixtures look similar ... no secret there ... but the frames, bar mounting, and power supplies are all quite different. And what is the source for your "failure rate" claim? Not saying you're wrong, just asking you to substantiate your claim.
Too many people on this forum like to have opinions based on nothing more than a hunch and it would be a pity to slam a good LED option with false claims

Jack667 · Aug 29, 2020

bk78 said:
Paid the same price to cover a 4x8 area from Meijiu as I would’ve to cover a 4x4 area with gavitaView attachment 4634240

Hi. I don't mean to be rude or unkind, but this does not look like a very successful setup for the size and (I'm guessing the expense). I think I am on track to get more buds from my 3'x3' one Bubblegum plant under a single 600w MH. I suggest you train the plants to have a level canopy. Also, these plants need more leaves to take advantage of that beautiful diffuse light you have got going. They are the food factory of the plants. I generally just take yellowed/ing leaves out to keep the microclimate in the heart of the plant from becoming humid and pest/disease prone. Best of luck with it all, Jack.

bk78 · Aug 29, 2020

Jack667 said:
Hi. I don't mean to be rude or unkind, but this does not look like a very successful setup for the size and (I'm guessing the expense). I think I am on track to get more buds from my 3'x3' one Bubblegum plant under a single 600w MH. I suggest you train the plants to have a level canopy. Also, these plants need more leaves to take advantage of that beautiful diffuse light you have got going. They are the food factory of the plants. I generally just take yellowed/ing leaves out to keep the microclimate in the heart of the plant from becoming humid and pest/disease prone. Best of luck with it all, Jack.

LoL

bk78 · Aug 29, 2020

Jack667 said:
Hi. I don't mean to be rude or unkind, but this does not look like a very successful setup for the size and (I'm guessing the expense). I think I am on track to get more buds from my 3'x3' one Bubblegum plant under a single 600w MH. I suggest you train the plants to have a level canopy. Also, these plants need more leaves to take advantage of that beautiful diffuse light you have got going. They are the food factory of the plants. I generally just take yellowed/ing leaves out to keep the microclimate in the heart of the plant from becoming humid and pest/disease prone. Best of luck with it all, Jack.

Post up your 2 pound 3x3 noob I’d love to see it. This room was just built and I tossed what I had in my old flower room in here for itmaiden voyage. This isn’t my first rodeo and I know all about training and even canopy’s.

old flower room is now a veg room here’s a pic of it. I missed a few squares in my scrog,I really hope you can forgive me for it.

Jack667 · Aug 29, 2020

It's magnificent. And I'm aiming for 12+oz. For what it's worth, here's a photo.

bk78 · Aug 29, 2020

BAHAHAHA

The way that thing looks you’ll be lucky to make it until harvest time.

beat it noob

bk78 · Aug 29, 2020

Holy fuck thanks for the good laughs. Back to harvesting for me lol

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