Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
I am well aquainted with Alaska's map. did you know that Alaska is one of the least populated States in the Union and it has one of the highest unemployment rates... It's Basically a welfare state. Try again sonny.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Sometimes politics has the uncanny effect of mirroring the national psyche even when nobody intended to do that. This is perfectly illustrated by the rousing effect that Gov. Sarah Palin had on the Republican convention in Minneapolis this week. On the surface, she outdoes former Vice President Dan Quayle as an unlikely choice, given her negligent parochial expertise in the complex affairs of governing. Her state of Alaska has less than 700,000 residents, which reduces the job of governor to the scale of running one-tenth of New York City. By comparison, Rudy Giuliani is a towering international figure. Palin’s pluck has been admired, and her forthrightness, but her real appeal goes deeper.

She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and turning negativity into a cause for pride. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.) I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision

Look at what she stands for:

Small town values — a nostaligic return to simpler times disguises a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.
Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.
Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be needed.
Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.
Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.
”Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.
Palin reinforces the overall message of the reactionary right, which has been in play since 1980, that social justice is liberal-radical, that minorities and immigrants, being different from “us” pure American types, can be ignored, that progressivism takes too much effort and globalism is a foreign threat. The radical right marches under the banners of “I’m all right, Jack,” and “Why change? Everything’s OK as it is.” The irony, of course, is that Gov. Palin is a woman and a reactionary at the same time. She can add mom to apple pie on her resume, while blithely reversing forty years of feminist progress. The irony is superficial; there are millions of women who stand on the side of conservatism, however obviously they are voting against their own good. The Republicans have won multiple national elections by raising shadow issues based on fear, rejection, hostility to change, and narrow-mindedness

Obama’s call for higher ideals in politics can’t be seen in a vacuum. The shadow is real; it was bound to respond. Not just conservatives possess a shadow — we all do. So what comes next is a contest between the two forces of progress and inertia. Will the shadow win again, or has its furtive appeal become exhausted? No one can predict. The best thing about Gov. Palin is that she brought this conflict to light, which makes the upcoming debate honest. It would be a shame to elect another Reagan, whose smiling persona was a stalking horse for the reactionary forces that have brought us to the demoralized state we are in. We deserve to see what we are getting, without disguise.

~chopra
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Obama's higher ideals equate to

More theft of your money
Taking away your guns so that when the higher taxes he intends on passing on everyone take effect and being a criminal is more profitable than being honestly employed you will be screwed
Bigger and More government (instead of smaller, efficient and more effective government)
The denial of your rights to choose where your child is going to school despite it being your tax money
The denial of everyone's right to become rich, and an attempt to prevent any one else from getting rich.
And a firm belief that his religion, fundamentalist environmentalism, ought to be shoved down everyone's throats.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Obama's higher ideals equate to

More theft of your money
Taking away your guns so that when the higher taxes he intends on passing on everyone take effect and being a criminal is more profitable than being honestly employed you will be screwed
Bigger and More government (instead of smaller, efficient and more effective government)
The denial of your rights to choose where your child is going to school despite it being your tax money
The denial of everyone's right to become rich, and an attempt to prevent any one else from getting rich.
And a firm belief that his religion, fundamentalist environmentalism, ought to be shoved down everyone's throats.

I think that gnome had a point and that your comments are just narrow minded.
Funny thing is Everything that was posted about Palin is true.
What was neglected was that Most men who keep gravitating toward Palin are doing so with their Penis.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Sometimes politics has the uncanny effect of mirroring the national psyche even when nobody intended to do that. This is perfectly illustrated by the rousing effect that Gov. Sarah Palin had on the Republican convention in Minneapolis this week. On the surface, she outdoes former Vice President Dan Quayle as an unlikely choice, given her negligent parochial expertise in the complex affairs of governing. Her state of Alaska has less than 700,000 residents, which reduces the job of governor to the scale of running one-tenth of New York City. By comparison, Rudy Giuliani is a towering international figure. Palin’s pluck has been admired, and her forthrightness, but her real appeal goes deeper.

She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and turning negativity into a cause for pride. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.) I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision

Look at what she stands for:

Small town values — a nostaligic return to simpler times disguises a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.
Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.
Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be needed.
Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.
Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.
”Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.
Palin reinforces the overall message of the reactionary right, which has been in play since 1980, that social justice is liberal-radical, that minorities and immigrants, being different from “us” pure American types, can be ignored, that progressivism takes too much effort and globalism is a foreign threat. The radical right marches under the banners of “I’m all right, Jack,” and “Why change? Everything’s OK as it is.” The irony, of course, is that Gov. Palin is a woman and a reactionary at the same time. She can add mom to apple pie on her resume, while blithely reversing forty years of feminist progress. The irony is superficial; there are millions of women who stand on the side of conservatism, however obviously they are voting against their own good. The Republicans have won multiple national elections by raising shadow issues based on fear, rejection, hostility to change, and narrow-mindedness

Obama’s call for higher ideals in politics can’t be seen in a vacuum. The shadow is real; it was bound to respond. Not just conservatives possess a shadow — we all do. So what comes next is a contest between the two forces of progress and inertia. Will the shadow win again, or has its furtive appeal become exhausted? No one can predict. The best thing about Gov. Palin is that she brought this conflict to light, which makes the upcoming debate honest. It would be a shame to elect another Reagan, whose smiling persona was a stalking horse for the reactionary forces that have brought us to the demoralized state we are in. We deserve to see what we are getting, without disguise.

~chopra
Small town values — Independence and Pride in standing on your own two feet instead of surrendering your right to dissent to the government in exchange for a hand out.

Ignorance of world affairs — Who wrote this? They must have meant to use Isolationism - Fixing the problems in our house before we attempt to screw with any one else's house.

Family values — The belief that parents should be allowed to raise their children the way they see fit, and that if they fail it should not be society's problem to bail them out. Or, more succinctly, The belief that no one should be enslaved to any one else.

Rigid stands on
guns - The protection of the rights guaranteed to us in our constitution, which means the ability to arm ourselves and fight should any tyrant, foreign or domestic, attempt to seize power, or any criminal should attempt to violate our property rights.

and abortion — I haven't seen her actually state she's going to make any policy decisions regarding this based on her personal views.

Patriotism — The desire to ensure that your country is safe, sound, secure and performing well. The desire to ensure that it is not going to be destroyed by crazy socialists who need to be locked up in an asylum for pretending to believe in the "common good" when all their programs primarily line the pockets of government employees.

”Reform” — Not maintaining the status quo, and attempting to get the government out of our private lives. Though based on the Republican track record we'll probably see them pigging out at the trough in a few years anyway, so this is a moot point, just like Obama's calls for "Change" are BS. Obama is a product of the corrupt politics of Chicago with ties to the Middle East through Rezko, and true Racists through his church.

Democrats believe that everyone should be equally poor, and equally enslaved by a master class that consists of government workers, lawyers and mainstream media executives (and they're only letting the MSM in, because the MSM kisses their backside). At least Republicans want everyone to be free to rise or fall on their own merits.

You fuck up, you pay the price, not you fuck up and some one else pays the price. It's no one's fault but your own if you can not rise up to your true potential.
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
Sounds more like your worried that the conservative are on the cusp of losing power.

What was being poined out was the bad parts of small town values... I should know, I live in a small town.. with a population of about 2,000
So really what do you know about small towns?
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Small town values — a nostaligic return to simpler times disguises a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.
a parochial character, spirit, or tendency; excessive narrowness of interests or view; provincialism.

Sounds like a way of saying they don't want to butt into any one else's business, or be bothered being forced to worry about anything outside of their interests. Who can blame them?

The world was a shithole a hundred years ago, and much of it is still a shithole today. We aren't going to change that, and we aren't going to change human nature.

Oh hell, I guess I'd be just as liable of being accused of that small-minded parochialism as you state people living in small towns are. But the fact of the matter is, is I'm sick of seeing how often our interests are shoved back down our throats by allies back-stabbing us and our rivals opposing us.

What good was it to bother protecting Europe from Communism when they implemented it on their own, and now consistently show that they do not remember how many hundreds of thousands of Americans died on their soil to fight for their freedom?

What good is it to want to bother trying to talk to China when their only response is that it's their country and they'll run it however they want. Personally, I think we should tell them, fine, and its up to us if we don't want to allow your cheap goods onto our shores. Of course, in China, they have a much different view of the value of a human life than we do, and thus are less inclined to really pay much attention to it when we tell them we want them to treat their workers better, and treat their citizens better. Or maybe they think it's hypocritical of us, when we allow abortion.

:: shrugs ::
Who cares, I just want to live my own life in peace with out some one telling me that I must waste money supporting the UN, when I disagree with everything it is founded on, and dislike it's continued attempts to over-ride the sovereignty of our nation.

That, and even if we are going to assume a great global role, granting more foreign aid is the wrong way to do it. Make it loans for business development. Help them create wealth instead of giving them hand outs. Personally, I think we ought to be using that money on our own shores, we send plenty of money abroad with the trade deficit every year.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
What good is it trying to make sure Iran doesn't nuke Israel when our "allies" France and Germany allow their businesses to sell centrifuges and build nuclear facilities in Iran?


I didn't answer your question about what I knew about small towns. I lived in Moriarty, New Mexico for 8 years. I miss some aspects of it, and don't miss others.
 

ViRedd

New Member
I am well aquainted with Alaska's map. did you know that Alaska is one of the least populated States in the Union and it has one of the highest unemployment rates... It's Basically a welfare state. Try again sonny.
Well, if you are using a state's population to denigrate Palin's ability to be VP, you surely have checked out Delaware's population, right? If a low population is a criteria for the job of VP, then Joe Biden was right ... Hillary was the better man for the job.

Vi
 

Bongulator

Well-Known Member
Palin said she'd cooperate in the corruption investigation against her. Now that the courts are ready to proceed, she's flip-flopped, is refusing to cooperate. She's trying to keep something hidden until after the election, obviously. Wonder what it is? Think the 1100 government-paid-for emails (including 40 or 50 very suspicious-looking ones) she's refusing to release have anything to do with it? I bet they do. Ah well, whatever. Her promised cooperation isn't necessary; that's what all the subpoenas that went out today are for, including one for her husband.

But it does show that her word isn't good, and if she says one thing, you'd better not count on it being true, because it probably isn't.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Well, if you are using a state's population to denigrate Palin's ability to be VP, you surely have checked out Delaware's population, right? If a low population is a criteria for the job of VP, then Joe Biden was right ... Hillary was the better man for the job.

Vi
Hey VI..

look where Delaware is on a map...

you'll notice... that it is not located geographically in that region that is so freaking isolated that most males loose their virginity to farm animals..

You can not compare the politics of Delaware with Alaska...

well, you can..


but it is really grasping at straws.... defending Palin at all is grasping at straws..
 

Slevin

Active Member
Now that is Bullshit, She is hardly qualified, she has been called on her lies.
Like her being against the bridge to nowhere. She was trying her ass off to get the funding for it until congress started saying what a big piece of pork it was and then she suddenly turns against it.
She got caught with her pants down and she had to reverse herself. Look at her record, she isn't as she appears.
Most of the Men who think she's all that are just voting with their dicks and not using their brains. Jesus, if your going to make a statement like that, at least make it factual.
Palin is nothing but a desperate attempt at gaining the Pissed off Hilary Clinton Supporter vote and nothing else.
aw come on man give it a rest. listen man. Palin at this moment has more experience than the democrats candidate. After 4 years she will be more than qualified
 

Dankdude

Well-Known Member
aw come on man give it a rest. listen man. Palin at this moment has more experience than the democrats candidate. After 4 years she will be more than qualified
Really? How do you figure.. a Mayor of a town of 9,000 and a Governor for 3 1/2 years over a welfare state like Alaska which only has a population of 700,000. .
Obama, Community Organizer, for 8 years, State Senator for 4 years in the State of Illinois for 4 years and a US Senator .
Looks like Obama has it all over Palin.
Try again son.
 

Bongulator

Well-Known Member
Don't give her credit for incomplete terms. She has completed 0 terms as governor. That leaves her, as experience, a bit of attempted book-banning as mayor and not much else. Oh, she did help out some high school friends. She gave one friend the job of overseeing Alaska's cattle industry (at $95k/year) based on her friend's stating that she likes cows. Wow, she likes cows? Well then, that totally qualifies her for the job.

A President Palin would be pretty humorous. 'Today I announce my selection of Todd Palin as Secretary of Defense. He likes guns!' Heck, I like computers. But I don't think that qualifies me to run Microsoft.
 

CustomHydro

Well-Known Member
All republicans do is ruin the world to help themselves.
Now it's so blatently fucked up, they do it right in our face and smile
The vice president right now is getting rich off of the war with his company Haliburton. He generates billions of dollars of income because of the war!
U think he wants to end it. U know pockets are lined all over the place to keep the war going. It's fucking bullshit. I really wouldn't be suprised if 9/11 was setup by Bush.
Also, when Bush frist came into office, oil was $30 per barrel, now it's $130. It's not a secret he has big stock in oil.
What he is doing is like a football coach betting on his team to lose, and then throwing the game. Only difference is Bush is playing with peoples livelyhood! This is not a game!
If you like the way shit is right now, then vote McCain.
If u are like me and your job is on the line, u can barely make bills, u are in debt, CC's are maxed out, etc... Then u may want to think about Obama. Palin is not going to do shit for the people. Since when do Vice Presidents have this much pull. U won't even see her after the election. McCain is using her like all republicans use everyone to help out themselves, not u or me!
 

raiderman

Well-Known Member
if you think its tuff now wait till you get an 20% tax increase. McCain and bush never could see eye to eye most of the time. i'm independent, i go for who ithink is not full of shit. i'll vote McCain . i need those tax cuts, i'm self employed and benafit off three loopholes.
 

medicineman

New Member
if you think its tuff now wait till you get an 20% tax increase. McCain and bush never could see eye to eye most of the time. i'm independent, i go for who ithink is not full of shit. i'll vote McCain . i need those tax cuts, i'm self employed and benafit off three loopholes.
So, you've just admitted you are a greedy fuck and would rather have the "promised" tax cuts than see the country straightened out. It is people like you and the idiot religious right that have fucked the country to tears for the last 8 fucking years. No, I don't want to see 4-8 more years of insanity so greedy fucks like you and VI can make more money. Close the loopholes and tax your asses.
 
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