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spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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Vitaly is a guy who just kinda seems like a genius who built some of the best looking lights I have ever seen. He's got a great set of playlists on YouTube. I just purchased 6 of his PCB's for a DIY build I plan on doing for a side by side. We're going to see how these units stack up next to a comparable CXB 3590 (3500kCD) build.

Check it out:
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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spcFLETCH said:
Vitaly is a guy who just kinda seems like a genius who built some of the best looking lights I have ever seen. He's got a great set of playlists on YouTube. I just purchased 6 of his PCB's for a DIY build I plan on doing for a side by side. We're going to see how these units stack up next to a comparable CXB 3590 (3500kCD) build.

Check it out:
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What's he charge
 
spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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Airwalker16 said:
What's he charge
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complete modules are $150 currently. He might still have my discount code "Michael 10" active. I would have to confirm. This may be subject to change however. He is literally a one man operation. So, you have to consider this in the price point. Overhead would be ridiculously high once you figure in time/value. If there could be some promise in future volume, I'm sure the price point would drop significantly. Initial investments have to be recouped of course... you know what I mean?
 
tstick

tstick

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It's an awesome looking light and that guy seems to be a real genuine, nice person, so I wish him luck. The only problem I can see is that lighting technology seems to evolve quickly and my guess is that diodes, COBs will all continue to get more and more efficient and require less and less cooling. He has focused a lot of his design on cooling. Will cooling be that important in the near future? I don't know. I see lots of people tinkering with passive, now -in other words, going away from complex cooling systems.

Is the market at large calling for a super-complicated (and likely very expensive) light? Or, is it calling for simple, less-expensive, high-quality, more-efficient/powerful lights?
 
IFARTED

IFARTED

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tstick said:
It's an awesome looking light and that guy seems to be a real genuine, nice person, so I wish him luck. The only problem I can see is that lighting technology seems to evolve quickly and my guess is that diodes, COBs will all continue to get more and more efficient and require less and less cooling. He has focused a lot of his design on cooling. Will cooling be that important in the near future? I don't know. I see lots of people tinkering with passive, now -in other words, going away from complex cooling systems.

Is the market at large calling for a super-complicated (and likely very expensive) light? Or, is it calling for simple, less-expensive, high-quality, more-efficient/powerful lights?
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Can I get a mutha fuckin amen !
 
spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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tstick said:
It's an awesome looking light and that guy seems to be a real genuine, nice person, so I wish him luck. The only problem I can see is that lighting technology seems to evolve quickly and my guess is that diodes, COBs will all continue to get more and more efficient and require less and less cooling. He has focused a lot of his design on cooling. Will cooling be that important in the near future? I don't know. I see lots of people tinkering with passive, now -in other words, going away from complex cooling systems.

Is the market at large calling for a super-complicated (and likely very expensive) light? Or, is it calling for simple, less-expensive, high-quality, more-efficient/powerful lights?
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Cooling already has lessened immensely even in the last 3 months
 
spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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We spoke mostly about spectrum to be honest. That really seemed to be his forte. That's really why I wanted to do a side by side with a reputable bin from CREE. Since the CXB3590 seemed to be the king spectrum to the DIY crowd, and I had the time, I thought it would be the most enjoyable project. Plus, the ChilledGrowlight module just happened to be driven @ 700 ma's! How interesting haha. So I thought, Why not throw a bunch of these babys into a couple of 4x2 with 900 ppm's of CO2 SCROG style. Should be epic.
 
Growmau5

Growmau5

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watts will always generate BTUs of heat. photons eventually become heat in a closed environment. 2000w of led in a bedroom grow op today will have same cooling requirements as 2000w of led next year. So for people in warm climates (like me) heat will always be the enemy. My greatest current limitation is my 14000 btu AC, that dictates how much juice I can run in my room. Not my budget or my electrical panel. (buy a mini split: i cant, im in a rental).
 
spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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Growmau5 said:
watts will always generate BTUs of heat. photons eventually become heat in a closed environment. 2000w of led in a bedroom grow op today will have same cooling requirements as 2000w of led next year. So for people in warm climates (like me) heat will always be the enemy. My greatest current limitation is my 14000 btu AC, that dictates how much juice I can run in my room. Not my budget or my electrical panel. (buy a mini split: i cant, im in a rental).
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This is why I dig the cut of your jib sir haha
 
nevergoodenuf

nevergoodenuf

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@Growmau5 - If you could find a mini-spit like I have, it might not be a problem in a rental? I have an Ideal Air 12,000btu 120v mini split with quick connections on the coolant lights. I have never seen it draw more than 7.5 amps. When you add a wall thermostat to it that can be set to temperature ranges instead of a set temp. It doesn't work as hard. Unfortunately I fried the board on it and need to have it replaced. My f-up.IMG_20140901_192717_229.jpg IMG_20140901_192700_057.jpg IMG_20150823_152055_654.jpg
 
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Bill Lidgate

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Very nicely engineered lights, i appreciate the flexibility of cooling options. He says retail will be $1800 for the base unit which I imagine will be the ducted version. The light output is probably a bit more than the Fluence SPYDRx PLUS ( ~600w output for $1500) as he is running 4x EUC-200S070DT at 200W max each. Usual engineering safety margin is 0.8 x (200x4) = 640W.

His $125 (~54W) modules are a bit overpriced considering they really require the driver board to fully function.

Spending a couple hundred (thousand?) hours design time so you can "eat healthy" seems a little silly, he is undoubtedly rich with lots of free time although quite personable in his videos.
 
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spcFLETCH

spcFLETCH

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Bill Lidgate said:
Very nicely engineered lights, i appreciate the flexibility of cooling options. He says retail will be $1800 for the base unit which I imagine will be the ducted version. The light output is probably a bit more than the Fluence SPYDRx PLUS ( ~600w output for $1500) as he is running 4x EUC-200S070DT at 200W max each. Usual engineering safety margin is 0.8 x (200x4) = 640W.

His $125 (~54W) modules are a bit overpriced considering they really require the driver board to fully function.

Spending a couple hundred (thousand?) hours design time so you can "eat healthy" seems a little silly, he is undoubtedly rich with lots of free time although quite personable in his videos.
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He's actually working on a much more affordable light now. Not to mention, more powerful.
 
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