Prop 19 Advertising?

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
i pray that we the people take the initiation to vote yes on this then we wouldnt need to spend the money on silly campaigns to appeal to the ignorant. all the funds raised will be needed when this shit goes YES!
False anti-cannabis propaganda has been drilled into the collective consciousness of this country for 70 years. That won't be undone overnight. Minds will need to be changed. Ads will need to be run. Money will be raised to do it. That's just how it is.

and it gets taken to the courts. thats where the REAL battles will be. remember our votes only get the ball rolling. from their its in the hands of those political figures who are willing to stand for whats right and fight the other politicians who are gonna come out with every fallacy in the books.
That'll be paid for with different money. I'd bet anything it happens like this. One of those Oakland massive scale growhouses permitted by prop 19 will get raided (maybe all of them). They will then have to be the one's who pay for it. Since those grows are so profitable, they'll be able to afford MUCH more money to fight the DEA effectively than the total amount raised by the prop 19 campaign. The DEA has already been to the sites of these massive grows. A legal battle in Oakland is pretty much a sure thing.

The prop 19 campaign raised somewhere around 2 million I believe. These guys can collectively afford 10s of millions of dollars to fight this. That'll be necessary go fight the DEA. The money these guys can make does buy a certain amount of power and influence over the legal system. This will benefit all of us in the long run IF they win.
 

Burger Boss

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Sorry to go off topic, but here is something I wanted to share :>

"When I was at the Patients Out of Time Medical Cannabis conference in Asilomar this last April, I overheard a remark that startled me: "The US Government has a patent on cannabis." I couldn't locate the person who made the comment, so I went home and did some online research. Sure enough, patent number 6,630,507 states unequivocally that cannabinoids are useful in the prevention and treatment of a wide variety of diseases including auto-immune disorders, stroke, trauma, Parkinson's, Alzeheimer's and HIV dementia. The patent, awarded in 2003, is based on research done by the National Institute of Health, and is assigned to the US Dept. of Health and Human Services. So, why is this important? Here is a legal document, in the public domain, which flies in the face of the US Government's stated position with regard to the classification of cannabis as a Schedule I substance having no "currently accepted medical use". Believe me, citing this patent stops the "medical marijuana is a myth" advocates dead in their tracks. They simply cannot argue with it. The forces that would keep cannabis illegal are vocal and well funded, but they are not impervious to persistent effort. The lynch pin in the War on Drugs is cannabis. Without the suppression and interdiction of this popular and widely used substance, there simply would not be enough "illegal drug use" going on to justify the huge amount of money and resources spent on "fighting drugs." I believe disseminating information about this patent as widely as possible, and to as many people as possible is a crucial strategy in loosening that lynch pin, and changing public perception about cannabis. I, personally, downloaded the first page of this patent and sent a copy (with the assignee highlighted) to every one of my elected representatives. I have also included information about it in "letters to the editor" referencing any cannabis related news story I come across, I use it as an argument in every State medical cannabis and decriminalization initiative, and have mentioned it in all my comments to online posts and blogs of the same nature. I would be delighted if everyone who believes the War on Drugs is a failed and destructive policy, would do the same, until the existence of this irrefutable patent becomes widely held public knowledge, and government 's rhetoric is shown to be as hollow as a busted drum."

I found this to mind blowing! As logical as "Alice in wonderland"!.........BB
 

fatfarmer

Active Member
Well most of us just sit and wish we to had the right to vote on it. Here you keep your head down! Don't we have rights too? This sucks a big one! :wall: :cuss::peace:
 

Burger Boss

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It seems to me, if the Feds start busting California's chops over prop 19, they would have to explain their dual position. They just can't have it both ways.......BB
 

Dan Kone

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It seems to me, if the Feds start busting California's chops over prop 19, they would have to explain their dual position. They just can't have it both ways.......BB
Yep. They will be saying California can't legalize it because it's a schedule 1 narcotic. A schedule 1 narcotic is defined as having no medical purposes. There is now medical marijuana laws in many states. This will force the feds to explain how this contradiction is possible. The feds pushing this may backfire and lead to the rescheduling of marijuana all together.
 

Serapis

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Early voting starts on October 18th, so we should see it really pick back up from then until Nov 2nd.

Vote YES
 

Serapis

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I just read the majority of the patent and am quite frankly shocked. If I'm just now finding out about it, what about everyone else? Hell I smoke and grow and NEVER knew that.
 

mr2shim

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I just read the majority of the patent and am quite frankly shocked. If I'm just now finding out about it, what about everyone else? Hell I smoke and grow and NEVER knew that.
Just found out yesterday. I can honestly say it shocked me. Not much does now days.
 

Burger Boss

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I'm not big on "conspiracy" theory, but why the hell hasn't this shown up in ANY of the media? It is rather big big news when the governments stand that cannabis is a medically worthless narcotic, is completely disputed by their ownership of a patent for medical cannabis..........This makes my head hurt............pass the bong please..............BB
 

Dan Kone

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I'm not big on "conspiracy" theory, but why the hell hasn't this shown up in ANY of the media?
I see stories on it every night in the news. It's the single most talked about ballot measure not just in Cali, but the whole country. I disagree with your premise.
 

Burger Boss

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Dan, I was referring to the US government ownership of a patent for medical cannabis. I have not seen one word in any media about this, and find that quite odd.......BB
 

Dan Kone

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Dan, I was referring to the US government ownership of a patent for medical cannabis. I have not seen one word in any media about this, and find that quite odd.......BB
Oh, my bad. Yeah, you're right.

It'd be pretty hard for them to rationalize medical patients on cannabinoids while holding the position that cannabis has no medical value. Might be funny to watch them try though.
 

vradd

Active Member
its still a conflict of interest with obama. he's already stated his staff cabinet will not be cracking down on pot issues. man we really need to start emailing the media about this "6,630,507" have them run a story on why the govt is conflicting its own interest
 

mr2shim

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its still a conflict of interest with obama. he's already stated his staff cabinet will not be cracking down on pot issues. man we really need to start emailing the media about this "6,630,507" have them run a story on why the govt is conflicting its own interest
Not gonna happen. News media isn't going to do something like that, the Govt wouldn't let them. Best thing you can do is spread the word to as many as possible and hope they do the same. Nevertheless I emailed the president(haha) about it and expressed my disgust.
 

mr2shim

Well-Known Member
I thought the patent was for synthetic cannabinoids, not the actual plant. This is how they were able to create Marinol, Dronabinol.

For those that don't know about these synthetic marijuana pills, they have yucky side effects and patients that have tried it still prefer real bud:
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6635
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/HT_Marinol_0794.html
creepy! http://www.themarinol.com/
From reading over the patent it looks like it's for both natural and synthetic.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=0pcNAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Do a search within that patent for "synthetic" and "natural", it talks about both in a positive light.
 

Burger Boss

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I thought the patent was for synthetic cannabinoids, not the actual plant. This is how they were able to create Marinol, Dronabinol.

For those that don't know about these synthetic marijuana pills, they have yucky side effects and patients that have tried it still prefer real bud:
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6635
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/HT_Marinol_0794.html
creepy! http://www.themarinol.com/
Marinol appears in 1985, the patent in question was issued in 2003.......BB
 
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