Proper curing

QtrNdaPuss

Well-Known Member
Quite the opposite, it gets rid of that fresh smell and replaces it with primo weed smell. 60-70 degrees is just begging for powdery mildew. If you take your buds and hold them up and flick them with your finger you'll see a big cloud of powery mildew spores.

The idea is to dry it, right? Well obviously things dry faster at 100 than at 60-70. Or do you just like inefficiency?
So you're saying the buds should look like this when finished?


just stop.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
If it was a quick dry that worked best we would all use a dehydrator and have buds in a day. its not drying, its fermenting slowly. if its jarred its fermenting quickly. The ferment breaks down sugars/carbs/off fertilizer flavors etc. Quick drying will not be as efficient.
have we all quick dried, likely, light bulb, top of a reflector, etc....but then as we grew more and more we found this is a waste of good weed flavors.. Good being subjective of course, but if you're in the neighborhood I'd be glad to set you straight with some
good smelling good tasting good effects weed, dried in a pr drying space. you'll stop quick drying the next day;)
and yes, I will gift you cuts of that strain
 

BobCajun

Well-Known Member
If it was a quick dry that worked best we would all use a dehydrator and have buds in a day. its not drying, its fermenting slowly. if its jarred its fermenting quickly. The ferment breaks down sugars/carbs/off fertilizer flavors etc. Quick drying will not be as efficient.
have we all quick dried, likely, light bulb, top of a reflector, etc....but then as we grew more and more we found this is a waste of good weed flavors.. Good being subjective of course, but if you're in the neighborhood I'd be glad to set you straight with some
good smelling good tasting good effects weed, dried in a pr drying space. you'll stop quick drying the next day;)
and yes, I will gift you cuts of that strain
Okay, I agree it's probably better to do it at room temp. Just seems too slow for me personally.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
Okay, I agree it's probably better to do it at room temp. Just seems too slow for me personally.

just like growing....harvesting and drying takes patience. I mean why spend all the cash, take all the time needed to grow, succeed with a great plant, and then rush the finale? seems silly. consider growing in a perpetually harvest scheme to be more prepared in between harvest, to avoid rushing any part of this process.
 

clouds

Well-Known Member
just like growing....harvesting and drying takes patience. I mean why spend all the cash, take all the time needed to grow, succeed with a great plant, and then rush the finale? seems silly. consider growing in a perpetually harvest scheme to be more prepared in between harvest, to avoid rushing any part of this process.
thats what im looking for a nice slow cure i been waiting all summer i can wait a lil longer to make it as good as i can thats the kind of info i need slow and steady
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
If it was a quick dry that worked best we would all use a dehydrator and have buds in a day. its not drying, its fermenting slowly. if its jarred its fermenting quickly. The ferment breaks down sugars/carbs/off fertilizer flavors etc. Quick drying will not be as efficient.
have we all quick dried, likely, light bulb, top of a reflector, etc....but then as we grew more and more we found this is a waste of good weed flavors.. Good being subjective of course, but if you're in the neighborhood I'd be glad to set you straight with some
good smelling good tasting good effects weed, dried in a pr drying space. you'll stop quick drying the next day;)
and yes, I will gift you cuts of that strain
:(. Any chance you could drive to Clayton, NewYork, rent a boat, drive out one mile, and throw me some cuts over the border ;). I'm not allowed to go to you :(.
Edit: oh and a jar of your bud, I just ran out and won't have time for a proper cure :(.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
just like growing....harvesting and drying takes patience. I mean why spend all the cash, take all the time needed to grow, succeed with a great plant, and then rush the finale? seems silly. consider growing in a perpetually harvest scheme to be more prepared in between harvest, to avoid rushing any part of this process.
Great advice Chem, prior proper planning! I'm always rushing through the cure, always running short. Yes things suffer when this happens. I spent the first 20 years hanging and bagging for sale. Now I do try and take more care in the finishing.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
thats what im looking for a nice slow cure i been waiting all summer i can wait a lil longer to make it as good as i can thats the kind of info i need slow and steady

all summer?
if weed doesnt taste perfect after 3 weeks drying in 70-75f, 50-55%rh, moving air......then something else is in play.
If I over feed, feed right to the end, or lock up ph......the only way to make that weed taste a little bit acceptable is to cure it, which is fermentation, allowing some bacteria to break down unburned carbs/sugars, ones that were not metabolized during proper finishing.

If my weed didnt taste good at 2 weeks into the drying...I'd honestly feed it to my rabbits and move on, try to develop better garden habits to fix the issue.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
all summer?
if weed doesnt taste perfect after 3 weeks drying in 70-75f, 50-55%rh, moving air......then something else is in play.
If I over feed, feed right to the end, or lock up ph......the only way to make that weed taste a little bit acceptable is to cure it, which is fermentation, allowing some bacteria to break down unburned carbs/sugars, ones that were not metabolized during proper finishing.

If my weed didnt taste good at 2 weeks into the drying...I'd honestly feed it to my rabbits and move on, try to develop better garden habits to fix the issue.
I think/hope he's talking about the cure. If I leave it hanging for more than a couple of weeks, it's too dry, I've lost the window for a good cure. Even longer than a week seems to affect the taste for me, I guess the room conditions dictate a lot.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
I think/hope he's talking about the cure. If I leave it hanging for more than a couple of weeks, it's too dry, I've lost the window for a good cure. Even longer than a week seems to affect the taste for me, I guess the room conditions dictate a lot.
me too. the cure is part of the dry no?
I cure the day I chop, while the flowers dry.
fact- weed older than 3 months around here is not used as buds for smoking, sometimes fed to the rabbits too.
not just the flavors but the effects are changed. Trichome contents degrade, like peaches, or essential flower oils etc.
Degradation changes everything. Active ingredients are converted to others. Some people enjoy soft peaches some want them firm and fresh. essential oils lose their vibrational energy as they age, just like food, vegetables, and even water.
I prefer all of my herbs fresh dried when used. Fresh oils are fresh tasting and fresh acting.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
me too. the cure is part of the dry no?
I cure the day I chop, while the flowers dry.
fact- weed older than 3 months around here is not used as buds for smoking, sometimes fed to the rabbits too.
not just the flavors but the effects are changed. Trichome contents degrade, like peaches, or essential flower oils etc.
Degradation changes everything. Active ingredients are converted to others. Some people enjoy soft peaches some want them firm and fresh. essential oils lose their vibrational energy as they age, just like food, vegetables, and even water.
I prefer all of my herbs fresh dried when used. Fresh oils are fresh tasting and fresh acting.
If I vacuum pack my jars and they taste really nice up to a year if left in the dark at cool temps. That doesn't happen unless it's a fall outdoor harvest when I refill the coffers lol, It could even be longer but it was amazing for me to have a jar last that long....I didn't see it there lol. And yes I guess drying is part of the whole process but when I say cure I mean, into the jars for the wait and smoke period ;).
 

dubekoms

Well-Known Member
I don't think you should be worrying about mold with the temp....its the humidity that can fuck you over. As long as it isnt over 68-70 rh when put them in jars you're good to go IMHO.
 

dubekoms

Well-Known Member
me too. the cure is part of the dry no?
I cure the day I chop, while the flowers dry.
fact- weed older than 3 months around here is not used as buds for smoking, sometimes fed to the rabbits too.
not just the flavors but the effects are changed. Trichome contents degrade, like peaches, or essential flower oils etc.
Degradation changes everything. Active ingredients are converted to others. Some people enjoy soft peaches some want them firm and fresh. essential oils lose their vibrational energy as they age, just like food, vegetables, and even water.
I prefer all of my herbs fresh dried when used. Fresh oils are fresh tasting and fresh acting.
Im not saying I don't believe you or anything but you got a source on that or is it personal experience? I totally agree with you on veggies though fresh is best!
 

dubekoms

Well-Known Member
Haha and you feed your bunnies straight nugs? Do they act any different? I have one myself, just a little lion head, I wonder.....
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
Im not saying I don't believe you or anything but you got a source on that or is it personal experience? I totally agree with you on veggies though fresh is best!
which part?

Haha and you feed your bunnies straight nugs? Do they act any different? I have one myself, just a little lion head, I wonder.....
they prefer fresh trim but will tackle buds too. They relax, do what bunnies do, often.
 

dubekoms

Well-Known Member
which part?



they prefer fresh trim but will tackle buds too. They relax, do what bunnies do, often.
The part where degradation occurs after 3 months. I thought I saw something where a person had a bud sitting out in the open for a few months and had it tested by a lab and it really didn't degrade at all. Idk I could be wrong.
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
The part where degradation occurs after 3 months. I thought I saw something where a person had a bud sitting out in the open for a few months and had it tested by a lab and it really didn't degrade at all. Idk I could be wrong.
The two main catalysts for decarboxylation to occur are heat and time. Drying and curing cannabis over time will cause a partial decarboxylation to occur. This is why some cannabis flowers also test for a presence of small amounts of THC along with THCA. Smoking and vaporizing will instantaneously decarboxylate cannabinoids due to the extremely high temperatures present, making them instantly available for absorption through inhalation.

While decarboxylated cannabinoids in vapor form can be easily absorbed in our lungs, edibles require these cannabinoids present in what we consume in order for our bodies to absorb them throughout digestion. Heating cannabinoids at a lower temperature over time allows us to decarboxylate the cannabinoids while preserving the integrity of the material we use so that we may infuse it into what we consume. Heat and time can also cause other forms of cannabinoid degradation to occur. For example, CBN (cannabinol) is formed through the degradation and oxidization of THC, a process that can occur alongside decarboxylation. CBN accounts for a much more sedative and less directly psychoactive experience. google
 

Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
me too. the cure is part of the dry no?
I cure the day I chop, while the flowers dry.
fact- weed older than 3 months around here is not used as buds for smoking, sometimes fed to the rabbits too.
not just the flavors but the effects are changed. Trichome contents degrade, like peaches, or essential flower oils etc.
Degradation changes everything. Active ingredients are converted to others. Some people enjoy soft peaches some want them firm and fresh. essential oils lose their vibrational energy as they age, just like food, vegetables, and even water.
I prefer all of my herbs fresh dried when used. Fresh oils are fresh tasting and fresh acting.
bro how do you explain absolutes and perfumes made from natural oils that remain spell binding after many years?

degradation def spoils the product but superb quality and crafty production and handling measures go a long way towards stabilizing certain premium ingredients.
 
>
Top