RangiTaxi Grows and random chat , random bits and pieces

all conversation welcome, just a general chat thread and I may add a few pics of my grows as we go along.

If you have any questions about your grow feel free to ask here and Ill try help, if I can, or others may have solutions.

moving on from posting in the Torr Method Thread , https://www.rollitup.org/t/torr-power-saving-veg-method.999199/, to here from now on, others are welcome to continue with that thread if they wish, but ill be keeping posts here only. If you have a Question Regarding the Torr method you can PM me.






Tobacco Mosaic Virus

There is some weird tracking on the new seedlings which looks a little like Thrip damage, but without a single Thrip or bug in sight, Im pretty sure its tobacco mosaic virus, and Ill be rolling with it, there is no cure for tobacco mosaic virus, it comes in genetically from the seed source, and its been visible to me since early germination, so ill continue through out the grow, till the end all the way to harvest, so if you see a slight leaf discoloration, variegation of the leaf, of some plants/seedlings in this tent, its not my growing skills, no bugs and no nutrient issues , its a virus that came in genetically with the seeds, Ive also had experience with this virus a decade ago in Phalaenopis and Cymbidium orchids.
If Grown well, I expect this plant virus will have no effect on my quality and yield, lets see.

This Thread will be based on learning, education , different techniques and solving problems that were never expected, and basic chit chat.

The plant with the weird specking looks like variegation it is some form of albinism in some cannabis plants. I had one had that in like half the plant, the bud wasn’t all that great and the yield wasn’t that great either

I hear TMZ is very rare there is something called hops mosaic or something though that I’ve read about being a problem in Colorado and cali

oh yeah this "hops viroid" is now in Germany is well... it mostly affects citrus plants, but here, mostly grapes & hops I think

this one perhaps?

Nizza said:

The plant with the weird specking looks like variegation it is some form of albinism in some cannabis plants. I had one had that in like half the plant, the bud wasn’t all that great and the yield wasn’t that great either

I hear TMZ is very rare there is something called hops mosaic or something though that I’ve read about being a problem in Colorado and cali

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Hey that is really great to know , thanks heaps ill look it up. expanding my knowledge cheers for that.. will have a read now.

Do you have a link? for this in cannabis, photos would be great, im still leaning towards TMZ from what I can see, but really interested in hops mosaic, are you sure its not one and the same? im thinking it might be as TMZ affects heaps of different plants species .. and has been around for decades, but need more information, Thanks for the post very interesting indeed!

I found this



Ill keep with the Grow, and see how it effects the plants, will definitely be interesting as time goes on it may becomes easier to identify , but yeah its definitely a genetic plant virus of some form, bit of a bummer when you pay top dollar for seeds.

Thanks Nizza for giving me the heads up..

It looks like variegation to me
I don't think it's hop latent viroid https://csplabs.com/2019/09/26/hplv-hop-latent-viroid/
and the TMZ pictures don't look like what you've got. It just looks like variegation to me once reading again about it

I have a plant doing it right now next to my other plants and it isn't spreading to anything else

From looking more into it, it can be speckled or solid leaves that the cells are blocked from genetics and the chlorophyll isn't produced in those areas

Nizza said:

Top 10 Craziest Cannabis Mutations

When cannabis genes mutate, the results can be staggering! All about variegated leaves, buds that grow from leaves, stalks that grow like vines, and more...

sensiseeds.com

variegated marijuana

Have any of you ever had a cannabis plant grow variegated leafs? photo is from a few days ago. The new leafs are still growing variegated. And is variegated leaf a bad thing?

www.icmag.com

It looks like variegation to me
I don't think it's hop latent viroid https://csplabs.com/2019/09/26/hplv-hop-latent-viroid/
and the TMZ pictures don't look like what you've got. It just looks like variegation to me once reading again about it

I have a plant doing it right now next to my other plants and it isn't spreading to anything else

From looking more into it, it can be speckled or solid leaves that the cells are blocked from genetics and the chlorophyll isn't produced in those areas

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Yeah Ive seen this kind of thing before as well,certainly not ideal, im just hoping the vigor of the plants will out grow it,so far no signs in the new growth, so if i keep the plants strong, and in high health , the virus may become recessive. let see.

Im pretty confident I can make a great grow of this, otherwise I would destroy the plants and start again, just thought id mention my observation as its quite a interesting subject.

I had to do a double take when i first saw it, i really did think I might have thrips on the first look, until i took a closer look..

Nizza said:

Top 10 Craziest Cannabis Mutations

When cannabis genes mutate, the results can be staggering! All about variegated leaves, buds that grow from leaves, stalks that grow like vines, and more...

sensiseeds.com

variegated marijuana

Have any of you ever had a cannabis plant grow variegated leafs? photo is from a few days ago. The new leafs are still growing variegated. And is variegated leaf a bad thing?

www.icmag.com

It looks like variegation to me
I don't think it's hop latent viroid https://csplabs.com/2019/09/26/hplv-hop-latent-viroid/
and the TMZ pictures don't look like what you've got. It just looks like variegation to me once reading again about it

I have a plant doing it right now next to my other plants and it isn't spreading to anything else

From looking more into it, it can be speckled or solid leaves that the cells are blocked from genetics and the chlorophyll isn't produced in those areas

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yes you might be right Nizza to be honest I dont know, like you say TMV is apparently rare in cannabis, so it may be just a variegation for whatever reason...

Have a look at this though it does kinda look the same?


here is their TMV pic

here is mine


hmmm lol

Nizza said:

I have a plant doing it right now next to my other plants and it isn't spreading to anything else

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hey Nizza any chance you can post a pic of that variegated plant you have, would be interested in having a look if you could
Cheers

RangiSTaxi said:

hey Nizza any chance you can post a pic of that variegated plant you have, would be interested in having a look if you could
Cheers

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Most definitely. I’ll get u a picture ASAP, I have a lot going on at the moment so I will try to get you the pic today or tomorrow. The last plant with this trait I grew out, it didn’t spread to any plants . It looked exactly like that picture of “TMZ” so you may be correct but also they may be incorrect. The plant I grew out lacked yield and the bud was ok. The damage was in a consistent pattern and the plant did have the leaf hook trait, but if it was highly contagious I would expect the rest of my crop to have suffered from it which leads me to think that it is a genetic varegiation.

you can also look into the genetic line to see if that is a trait that can be expressed with your strain. Mine had stardawg and Chem in it so maybe that would be good to look into. The plant doing it this time is sunset sherbet x purple punch.

it is a very interesting subject! after the disappointing yield off my last variegated plant I think I will just kill this one. The yield and potency was sub par to its sisters

Hi Nizza , Thanks for that,much appreciated, I have to go now as well.

I forgot to add the picture of my slightly varegiated plant. Here it comes... I will be killing it soon. It has been sitting over by the window being neglected lol

@RangiSTaxi How do I send you a PM? I built a light to try the The Torr Method".

LoveMuffin said:

@RangiSTaxi How do I send you a PM? I built a light to try the The Torr Method".View attachment 4607526

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I think you need to advance your ranks (by doing more posts) then you should be able to.... in the meanwhile, what do you wanna know?

are these 660nm + 730nm strips combined with a general "white CRI" board?

On that 1/8" alum sheet:
2 X https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/qb648-diablo
BLUE 2 X https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb11-quantum-board
4 X the red/far red that you referred to. 24 V, 600mA-900mA, 18-24 watt... per board.

I have a Meanwell XLG-240-H-A to drive the 2 Diablo's in parallel. Works perfect.
Everytime I start to try to figure out what drivers to use for the other two channels I get so confused. I do have in my posession now, 4 more of the XLG-240-H-A's and (1) XLG-150-H-AB. Is there any way to use either to fire up the reds?

LoveMuffin said:

4 X the red/far red that you referred to. 24 V, 600mA-900mA, 18-24 watt... per board.

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I'm not seeing a Far Red there... you need 730nm throughout the whole night in order to supress/counter the Pfr conformation change due to the 660nm photosynthetic light... and induce stomatal closure "forcing sleep"...
also the 730nm light throughout the day is going to increase your PS efficiency a bit ("Emmerson effect")

Here are the lights I have https://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Booster-Sun-Board-24v-Samsung-48-LED-Strip-660nm-730nm-IR-NOT-Quantum/254226203045?hash=item3b311001a5:g:SWAAAOSwPuhdSfva

I have 4 of these. If I run 2 of them in series, then run 2 sets of those in parallel can I drive them with the XGL_150_H-AB?

LoveMuffin said:

I have 4 of these. If I run 2 of them in series, then run 2 sets of those in parallel can I drive them with the XGL_150_H-AB?

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I think it shouldn't be a problem as the driver can support up to 150w so even if you'd run all 4 in series it shouldn't exceed max - but I'm not a technical LED crack at all - you better ask in the LED section someone smarter than me, not that your stuff blows up

I would hate for it to blow up also... probably scare the shit out of me.