Starting Mephisto Form Stomper indoors, will move outdoors 1 May

FirstCavApache64

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I like the look of them. I'm betting the girls are going to do some heavy growing with that much light and be extra room now. I bet you're amped up.
 

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Yeah, I’m petty stoked…I just got some more 4 foot tall square tomato cages I’m debating on trying here. They’ll definitely be in place for the BT growing at the GFs house. I’ll start a separate thread on those soon.

I deluged the plants here with ph 6.7 water (around 1800ml each), and got some runoff but not a bunch. The square fabric bags in the milk crates are winners - they hold much more liquid before runoff (vs the cylindrical bags I also have). Bigger root zone = bigger plants.

i started 20/4, with lights out at 2200 and back on at 0200, and will keep it there for a week or so, then I’ll get to 18/6 (lights out 2100 and on at 0300). They’ll probably finish out at 18/6.

since the plants have more room to grow laterally im still pulling branches down out of the shadow of the canopy, and using some LST clips where I can. There are not too many branches left on which I can use the LST clips since they are stiffening up pretty quickly. A binder clip on the top of the crate and some pipe cleaners pulls the stiffer branches down a bit, and I’ll work them even more horizontal as time goes by.

I just ordered some room foggers, and on the next nice day they’ll get moved to the outside, and I’ll swab out the rooms with Clorox, set a fogger and close the bathroom door. I’ve also been burning citronella tea candles in the rooms and have tons of sticky fly paper in place. I have a couple citronella plants on the deck I’ll put near them while they are outdoors too, and they might get a light spray of Green Cleaner (and a misting of ph 6.5 water after an hour or so). For now, I plan to run them to harvest indoors, with some time outdoors when conditions get better, soon I hope…

here are the pair in the original grow area, pics of the other 2 in about an hour after I give them their daily love…

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Here are the other 2; no signs of distress so the ones downstairs were probably suffering from too much light. I adjusted the upstairs pair to 20/4, and gave them a deluge of plain water as well…

the downstairs enclosure has more lighting and better penetration so the plants will probably move between the enclosures once a week to even things out. That’ll be a few trips up and down the stairs as part of my daily exercise regimen…

one of the problems with this third floor grow space is temp control; I have to crank the AC down to around 70 for this zone to keep things comfortable in the bathroom. Dominion Energy gonna love me this summer…

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I switched them around this morning, upstairs to downstairs and vice versa. Figured the downstairs ones could use a break from the more intense lighting, and allowed me to pick the side of the plants that moved from upstairs to face the vertically hung T5 lights. I’ll probably set up a weekly move to switch them around, and a daily rotation for each to get different sides exposed to different direct/indirect light.

im pulling most of the LST clips since the branches are locked in their contorted positions and to avoid constricting the flow of water/nutrients to the flowering ends.

another ph 6.5ish water deluge today - I’ve been hitting them pretty hard with nutes and wanna get the soil back to ”neutral“ for the home stretch.

shitty weather today, but tomorrow starts a streak of highs in the mid 80s, and sunny to partly cloudy. They’ll spend some time outdoors for sure…

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FirstCavApache64

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Hey, I meant to ask you, where did you get the square fabric pots? Somebody else was asking about where to buy fabric pots online and I was mentioning how I liked your square ones but couldn't remember where you bought them.
 

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Outside until 1400ish when rain predicted, then back into the grow enclosures. Some defoliation and a little more shaping while they are outdoors, along with a pretty heavy drench of ph 6.4 water and a nutrient of some sort - I have not made up my mind on that yet…

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started 4 Apr 22; they are on Day 42, website claims 65-70 day cycle time. I’ll push them beyond the advertised time if necessary, 30 Jun would be 87 days. Patience dear boy.

Well, I woulda been a Doctor, but I did not have the patients…
 

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Trying out Nectar for the Gods line of nutrients. I bought a couple bottles and a local growmie bought several more. I winced adding all the ingredients (at around 50% strength) since I’ve been holding the previous feedings to just a single nutrient or a couple.

the first batch came out dark as hell, and the ph was way low; I adjusted it to 6.5 which is midrange of what they recommend. There is no dosage info on Persiphone’s Palate or The Kraken on the feeding chart or their website so I’ll pose that question to them directly.

they recommend feed/fed/flush in a continuous cycle; I think I’ll modify that to add in some other stuff I have in my arsenal of stuff…

they are still on 20/4 combined (outside when sunny, inside otherwise) which I know is sacrilege to some, and I am getting weary of moving in and out so I’m gonna start reducing the indside lighting period down to 16/8 over a week, and then put them outside for the duration. I‘m over 14 hrs of daylight now, so it is time…but I love having them inside too. They might come back in during really pissy weather anyways.

im headed out soon to get more citronella plants…they’ll eventually be surrounded. Solar powered bug zapper is next on the shopping list.

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Inside day today - gonna be a scorcher and after all day in the sun yesterday I’ll focus on side lighting today to give the lower flower sites a good dose of light…

gave them a second straight day of NFTG potion. between my growmie and me, we are lacking just a couple of items from the full NFTG line, which will be in the way to me soon…

tomorrow is more natural sun all day and a ph 6.4 water deluge, probably in the AM before the sun hits them and toward the latter part of the day before they come back inside for the night. Sacrilege I know, moving in and out, but no signs of bugs, and the cirtonella plants in the grow rooms are proving to be pretty aromatic and I have a fan blowing directly into the spaces with the plants behind. I’ll burn some citronella tea candles today just for good measure.

i nuked both rooms with an insect fogger the other day while they were outside as well, so constant vigilance and preventative measures are in full effect.

the central/main stalks are standing tall, proud and straight up - I might wind up with main colas as long as my forearm at the end of this, along with a bunch of other massive colas growing from branches i tied down early that are outside the canopy. Jeez, ain’t this fun?

have a wicked fucking awesome day everyone…B82759DC-84D2-41CF-A4C8-0CCAB0D687D8.jpeg326BE29F-01C2-4EDF-88A9-B4198D42A58C.jpeg42522BC8-9965-4E82-B44E-07C70BB8833D.jpegCB0359FB-1126-4328-8B71-933D441B0C82.jpeg8973CB01-A16A-43A0-B1B5-B6B135C1F59E.jpeg1198A05B-A9C8-450F-8254-B4073B8F92B2.jpeg26A815B6-69E3-46A4-808C-A6F387D866AA.jpeg45C4CFB9-391F-4853-A3C1-8CD87C71E803.jpeg
 

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What a beauty day…full sun from 0845 to 2000…

I do have another milk crate, but it is serving as the base for a table between a couple deck chairs…will have to remedy that. Symmetry is important to me…

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Plant 4. They are showing slight nitrogen deficiency, but I’ve been clipping the yellowing leaves and it helps with air flow and light penetration.

mixed up a gallon of FF Grow Big for nitrogen and a teaspoon of Herculean Harvest bone meal for the calcium. 800 ml a piece, wait half an hour then a 50ish percent dose of the NFTG Roman Regimine, minus a couple things still in the mail…

I have a grow at the GFs house and I think I’ll run those with FF nutes, and add stuff to it (fish shit, mammoth p etc) and keep the plants here on a NFTG schedule…

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I got really stoned one day, go figure, and set off to Lowes to find something with which I could pin down the flower bearing branches from the first and second nodes, and get them trained to grow horizontally to the edge of the crates. i started in the garden department and found landscape staples used to pin sod down to the ground. Pretty good solution, but they were large, square (bent into 2 right angles), and the wire itself was square and had rough/sharp edges. Not good for a growing branch to be rubbing up against a hard and sharp edge.

so, I walked every aisle looking for a better solution. On the next to last aisle in the store I found these - used to pin insulation inside floor and roof joists. They are round wire (no sharp edges) and easy to bend into a loop at the midpoint. they also have some “memory” such that when you bend them they want to partially return to their original straight shape. So, if ya pinch the ends when inserting into the soil, once in place they spring back slightly, and provide a pretty secure anchoring point. I’ve had some plants pull them out of the ground, but generally they stay where I’ve inserted them.

the drawback is they rust up pretty quickly, but that doesn’t seem to have hurt anything so far and I’ve been using them for a couple years…

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