Substitute for Gaia Green?

cardgenius

Active Member
Thanks for that. Super simple set up. I’m used to bottle nutrients with ml/ppm all that jazz. The way you described pretty much has you watering and walking away.
Exactly. I do use bottled EWC Tea a couple times throughout the grow but that’s too boost the microbes so other than that it’s just tap water with a pinch of Epsom.

I like the EWC from Vermisterra, been using it for a few years now. They also make the bottled EWC tea I buy. Plants love the tea but damn does it stink.
 

LilT211

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Exactly. I do use bottled EWC Tea a couple times throughout the grow but that’s too boost the microbes so other than that it’s just tap water with a pinch of Epsom.

I like the EWC from Vermisterra, been using it for a few years now. They also make the bottled EWC tea I buy. Plants love the tea but damn does it stink.
The plant is pretty much on autopilot. Feed the microbes, got it. I can tolerate the smell if it’s top shelf flowers at the end. Interested to see the difference between organic and bottled nutes.
 

myke

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The plant is pretty much on autopilot. Feed the microbes, got it. I can tolerate the smell if it’s top shelf flowers at the end. Interested to see the difference between organic and bottled nutes.
It can be a challenge ,big pots with good soil will help 10 fold.I notice most if not all good growers here up pot just before flower.So veg in 2 gallon then into 10+ pots.Im doing that now and it sure helps.
 

youraveragehorticulturist

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This is a good point for new guy to see. With gyro methods and bottles you can grow big plants in small pots. In organic soil you need big roots, lots of soil and big lots.

And jumping to a new big ass pot with fresh, loaded up soil shortly before flowering is a good way to keep your plants fed for weeks without doing anything.
 

SwankDank

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i purchased earth dust from the green sunshine co heard its equivalent to Gaia havent tried it yet tho will be using for my outdoor
 

Vbz.420

Active Member
Yeah. I do things a bit different since I like to reuse my soil each time so I mix up two separate batches of soil. One for veg and one for early flower. I let each batch “cook” for 2-4 weeks before use.

The veg batch gets 2tbs per gallon of the Premium Gold and EWC.

The early flower batch also gets EWC and 2tbs per gallon but I do a 50/50 blend of Premium Gold and Flower Girl for this batch. After about 4 weeks of flower I’ll top dress with 3tbs/gallon of just Flower Girl and EWC.

I start my clones in 1g pots for veg and then transplant them into 7g pots with the early flower soil mix for flowering. If I’m starting from seed, I’ll do a lighter mix with about 1tbs of Premium Gold per gallon in the small starter pots and then transplant them over to the 1g.
Simple question.. By 50/50 veg and bloom you mean 2 tbsp each of both per gallon of medium?
 

TrippleDip

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I use Jobes organic 4-4-4
Any real difference from GG? I just wonder if the jobes will give me some weird defficiency later because it has less ingredients - one ingredient really.. chicken (blood/bone/feather+k2so4), while GG has over a dozen sources.

Also is jobes a faster release than GG? It seems like it given the label information..

FYI gaia green is actually cheaper here (in the 50lb bags vs the jobes 17.5lb bags)
 

Wattzzup

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Any real difference from GG? I just wonder if the jobes will give me some weird defficiency later because it has less ingredients - one ingredient really.. chicken (blood/bone/feather+k2so4), while GG has over a dozen sources.

Also is jobes a faster release than GG? It seems like it given the label information..

FYI gaia green is actually cheaper here (in the 50lb bags vs the jobes 17.5lb bags)
I’m in the states GG is unavailable here.
 

TrippleDip

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I’m in the states GG is unavailable here.
I guess what I meant was, can you run straight through with jobes and only jobes without worrying about deficiencies?

Also, what's your feed schedule/amount like? At mixing then twice through the grow?

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Picked up a bag of jobes 444 for garden plants and am considering using it for bud too. I am currently using only GG, 3tbsp per gal of soil at planting and 1tbsp per gallon of soil as a top dress twice during the grow. Are jobes and gg effectively interchangeable used like this (amounts and timing)?
 

Wattzzup

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I’ve never used GG so I can’t compare the two. GG looks to be more of a powder so I would imagine it would break down quickly.

I use 4-4-4, Bone meal, Epsom salt, and EWC

it’s all in my journal
 

myke

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I guess what I meant was, can you run straight through with jobes and only jobes without worrying about deficiencies?

Also, what's your feed schedule/amount like? At mixing then twice through the grow?

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Picked up a bag of jobes 444 for garden plants and am considering using it for bud too. I am currently using only GG, 3tbsp per gal of soil at planting and 1tbsp per gallon of soil as a top dress twice during the grow. Are jobes and gg effectively interchangeable used like this (amounts and timing)?
I assume their similar,the GG is a much better price @$1 a pound.
 
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