The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread
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AzCannaMan
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Right now TGA Subcool Querkle & Greenhouse Super Lemon Haze are flowering. Around day 20 probably.
How goes the Armageddon? The description in your thread sounds too good to be true lo. High yield, top quality buds, mostly sativa with an indica structure etc. I may have to get me some of those if yours actually live up to the description!
puffenuff
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True Blueberry and Hash Passion, loved passionately by myself and canna.
Bird Gymnastics
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Just finished my whitefire, querkles and golden pineapples (golden Kush x skunk) x c99. Also going to crop my chocolopes here soon. I'll post pics when I get on my computer. I also have to take back what I said...after cropping my nugs aren't as "big" as they could be, but they are definitely super dense. So pk13/14 might not be needed after all. 
nas2007
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nice, i really wanna grow the SLH, is it from seed? who are the breeders? and how much did she strech in her first 3 weeks?
this is the first time i used homegrown fantaseeds, and all i can say is they are very reliable with the Armageddon, seeds germination is 100%, the Yield is huge garanteed! im growing 5 of them and they all high yielder, all have packed on ice, i would recommend Armstrong to every one growing and yield wise, ill let yeh know how the high is in about 4 weeks, all in all Armageddon is exactly as homegrown fantaseed described them,
true blueberry? i grew dutch passion's blueberry, i grew 4 of them even had 1 top phenom, growing wise they ok but the high really put me off, its just not strong enough for me,
chocolope! heard lots of good thing about her!! im defo growing her on my next run, how is she growing wise? and how is the high??Just finished my whitefire, querkles and golden pineapples (golden Kush x skunk) x c99. Also going to crop my chocolopes here soon. I'll post pics when I get on my computer. I also have to take back what I said...after cropping my nugs aren't as "big" as they could be, but they are definitely super dense. So pk13/14 might not be needed after all.
nas2007
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AzCannaMan
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Yeah they are from seed. Greenhouse Seeds is the breeder. 100% germination and sprouting out of a 5 pack. I kept the best 2 which are flowering now. Cant comment on the stretch a I vegged them for 4.5 months under high output T-5 6500k. They were about 38" when i flowered them. They are about 50" now probably after about 2.5 weeks. So very minimal, if you vegged a normal length of time i am sure it would stretch a lot more.
roachclip420
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So whats up with the bio line? Best additives? Thinking about moving to a coco/peat mix but all I have found is a bunch of mixed reviews on it with lots of people saying its very low yielding and lots of early deficiencies.
AzCannaMan
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So go with Canna COCO & Canna COCO Nutrients! Evryone who uses this combo says it's the shit including ole Nas above. Why would you fuck with anything else if that works awesomely?
I mean no offense by this next statement - It should not be so mysterious or mystifying that Canna Coco Coir & Canna Coco Nutrients make a good combination...
Ya dig?
Edit: BTW Canna's dosent have much in the way of additives. Rhizotonic (which IS THE SHIT), PK13/14 (Cheap and makes sense as to why the plants need it), Boost (HELLA $$$ too rich for my blood, cant comment on it), Cannazyme (same a all the other zyme shit out there probably)... Thats about it for the main ones... Well the ones id actually use anyway... Im subbing Boost with H&G Bud XL & a sweetner of my choice (which i pick based on strain)
roachclip420
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I already use the canna coco line and have for a while...I was asking about the bio line for soil which only has a grow, flower, and boost...
Bird Gymnastics
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The chocolope has a fantastic "old school" taste and the high is very spacey and almost motivating. The taste reminds me of of a rich, dark chocolate taste with a hint of that skunky taste. You either love it or you hate it.
As far as growing goes, she definitely likes her space. If you are a sea of green type grower, this is not the strain for you! She gets very branchy and spaces out perfectly to hold all of her long, fat nugs. Stretching till about week 4, she loves that extra nitrogen till about week 3. ( I usually do 2 weeks of extra nitrogen for MOST of my strains) from there she starts to develop significant bud. That is when I start cranking the nutes up and she starts to pack on the weight. Fortunately for me I use the bio line, so I feed almost till week 9 and give her about 2 waterings of pure water before her chop
I have found that the bio line works great for people who have already grown organically. If you use microbes and/or beneficial bacteria, then the bio line works wonders. This last grow I used no additives besides what canna recommends, which is their bio boost. Using 2k watts I'm yielding 40+ and in bigger gardens, like 6k watts I've done as much as .65 gpw...granite those had c02 but for organics...not bad, right?
this next grow I'm going to try a kelp booster (0-4-4) and possibly try a coco run using the bio line. P.s. after talking to a canna rep, apparently they are starting to stock shelves with Bio-Rhizatonic and Bio-Cannazyme.
roachclip420
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Heard about the bio rhizo and zyme but haven't been able to find them any were in town. In your thread you said you just mixed a few amendments in but it's pretty much all coco right? no peat or anything else? Have you tried the bio in a soil mix? I've heard organics doesn't perform very well in coco but seems like you are figuring it out pretty well.
AzCannaMan
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Im using Substra Flores Soft in FFOF right now and the girls are loving it! It smashes AN Sensi A&B to the ground.
Bird Gymnastics
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It is majority coco, yes. About 60% coco, 20% EWC, 15% perlite and roughly 5% kelp meal. I have used the bio line with roots organic soil and also promix. Promix I had amazing results but so far, my own "Pre mix" seems to be working best for me.
Edit: I don't treat the coco like coco. Maybe that is why I've had decent results. I water as if they are in soil (approximately every 2-3 days). My yields could be better but I can't complain, since this is my best quality so far.
And what I meant by trying a coco run this time is actually doing 100% canna coco and use a drain to waste type feeding...thinking 3 times per day...advice fellow coco growers??
Edit: I don't treat the coco like coco. Maybe that is why I've had decent results. I water as if they are in soil (approximately every 2-3 days). My yields could be better but I can't complain, since this is my best quality so far.
And what I meant by trying a coco run this time is actually doing 100% canna coco and use a drain to waste type feeding...thinking 3 times per day...advice fellow coco growers??
roachclip420
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Are you going to be updating your thread with it? I would really like to fallow along. Thinking about doing a few soil tests with the canna line but it would be interesting to see how the bio does in coco.
Bird Gymnastics
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In the process of cleaning one of my bloom rooms but once that is completed, I will definitely update or maybe even make a whole new thread.. If you ever have questions about it let me know.
nas2007
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i would go with auto pots lol i say this to ever one, yesterday i bough 4x 15 liter pots (autopots) so i can transplant my clones in there, and ones the roots have started to come out from the bottem then i will put them on the hole autopot system, i can make a thread if you lads want to follow it?It is majority coco, yes. About 60% coco, 20% EWC, 15% perlite and roughly 5% kelp meal. I have used the bio line with roots organic soil and also promix. Promix I had amazing results but so far, my own "Pre mix" seems to be working best for me.
Edit: I don't treat the coco like coco. Maybe that is why I've had decent results. I water as if they are in soil (approximately every 2-3 days). My yields could be better but I can't complain, since this is my best quality so far.
Bird Gymnastics
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Personally I've only used auto pot ever. I used it with soil and didn't like it at all. I'd love to see how you do it man. "if you build it, they will come."
I'm going this weekend to buy 3 more 3x3 tables, 12 bags of coco and about 48 more 9.5in square pots...let me see these auto pots before I make a rash decision lol
AzCannaMan
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Im all over it, link? Autopots sound so easy, setting up this drip/drain to waste system is going to be a pain in the ass.
AzCannaMan
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May I at least suggest Smart Pots rather than the 9.5" square ones. Im very interested in these autopots though... I like easyPersonally I've only used auto pot ever. I used it with soil and didn't like it at all. I'd love to see how you do it man. "if you build it, they will come."
