The Vault Comparative Grow, in association with Mephisto Genetics - Heisenberg Special Autos

steff44

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Hi buddy, I got this reply from Loki:

"Mine's well under 5ft for the first one I've done - I always let them grow normally then next one ill train it wont respond well to high stress training so no topping fiming or super cropping.

Doesn't smell really strong it seems to have a piney earthy with a subtle sweetness smell to it. I'm not on RIU that's why he cant find me - I'm also on IG if they wanna find me there too"
Loki is a Guru!Just go with the Flow..
 

Lisa martinez

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Woke this morning by the postman early doors..Big Smiles!!!.Cheers Jack,The Vault & Rollitup!!!..Oh & thanks again for another T.Shirt!!!.I will never make it as a Catalogue Model lol...
Hey Steff !! Glad to see you are going to be apart of this grow. Cant wait to see everyones progress but i always keep a close eye on @twistedentities @thewanderer718 @steff44 @hondagrower420 @GrowJahsGift these guys had great success with the last grow and were super supportive with me and my grow.
 

UniDragon

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Hey Steff !! Glad to see you are going to be apart of this grow. Cant wait to see everyones progress but i always keep a close eye on @twistedentities @thewanderer718 @steff44 @hondagrower420 @GrowJahsGift these guys had great success with the last grow and were super supportive with me and my grow.
Yep, me too! I am really excited about this next project and extremely thankful to have people that I can rely on who will answer questions, stupid or not, to assist me with my growing projects and not cuss me out if I decided to do something that was the wrong thing to do.

Thanks to all!
 

UniDragon

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Loki is a Guru!Just go with the Flow..[/Q

With this project I am going to make every effort to NOT cut on this plant at all, but we will see. My theory is that if I start wrapping branches early and tying her down early then I may be able to fit the whole plant in The Tron without a problem, but if I have to cut her then I have no choice but to cut her.
 

twistedentities

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good morning all! im getting excited about this grow. Hoping I don't have a big learning curve with using new soil. First grow that non is coming from my yard pile. I followed a super soil recipe and gonna put some effort into this one. 400mh and 600hps and compost teas. Because I'm scared of the new soil, I may start only one to make sure I don't nuke it. I'll drop a few more if it lives through the first week.
Puff puff >>>>>>>>>>
 

GrowJahsGift

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good morning all! im getting excited about this grow. Hoping I don't have a big learning curve with using new soil. First grow that non is coming from my yard pile. I followed a super soil recipe and gonna put some effort into this one. 400mh and 600hps and compost teas. Because I'm scared of the new soil, I may start only one to make sure I don't nuke it. I'll drop a few more if it lives through the first week.
Puff puff >>>>>>>>>>
If your going to start in say a 5gal pot. I would just fill the bottom half with your super soil and use something like ProMix or Sunshine mix #4 as your top half. It will give your gal time to get established before those roots make it to the hotter soil.
 

twistedentities

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If your going to start in say a 5gal pot. I would just fill the bottom half with your super soil and use something like ProMix or Sunshine mix #4 as your top half. It will give your gal time to get established before those roots make it to the hotter soil.
Good idea! That sound like a plan. I use 5gal smart pots. Sometimes I forget to think about the easiest solution lmao
 

bertaluchi

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Can someone put me in touch with Loki125? I have searched for this member several different ways and cannot seem to find them. I just want to know:
1.) Do they top out at 3.5 ft.?
2.) How do they respond to pruning, topping, fimming and supercropping?
3.) What does it smell like when it begins to smell?

I would like to know these things before I start this project.

Thanks in advance! Oh, and Jack, I sent my email to you Friday through my outlook account. I know that you are extremely busy, and I really appreciate all that you and your company does and not by any means trying to rush you, I just wanted to let you know that I am trying to get in on this.

Thanks again to Jack, everyone at The Vault and all fellow RIU contributors!
I have had some experience with this strain and from what I remember there are 2 pheno's. One is short squat indica and the other is taller and stretches more. They both have a similar smell/taste, a sweet musk with a hint of baby poo. Gonna need a carbon filter for this one. And always covered in trich's. I have even seen fan leaves with trichs on them. As far as height the tall pheno gets to about 3.5-4 feet. The small squat one is about8-12 inches shorter. I have never really trained my Heisenberg's other than spreading out the canopy with some string but keep in mind this is an autoflower and it is fast to flower so anything other than LST my not be in your best interest. When I get home I'm gonna look through my tablet and see if I have some pics. I'm sure I have a few at least to show you.
 

Mr black thumb

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I've only done it a couple times the reason I am trying it is I found a bunch of old organic gardening books and they swear by it,they contain all kinds of goodness, I take the water out of the coconut and mix it with the aloe my ratio is 1 cup coconut water with 1 tbsp raw aloe mix it in the blender makes 1 gal.
For this grow I'm starting 3, 1 control
1 all organic,( manure tea, eggshells, coconut water, aloe, shrimp water, etc
And the last will be fox farm trio pack.
Should be fun..
 

UniDragon

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I have had some experience with this strain and from what I remember there are 2 pheno's. One is short squat indica and the other is taller and stretches more. They both have a similar smell/taste, a sweet musk with a hint of baby poo. Gonna need a carbon filter for this one. And always covered in trich's. I have even seen fan leaves with trichs on them. As far as height the tall pheno gets to about 3.5-4 feet. The small squat one is about8-12 inches shorter. I have never really trained my Heisenberg's other than spreading out the canopy with some string but keep in mind this is an autoflower and it is fast to flower so anything other than LST my not be in your best interest. When I get home I'm gonna look through my tablet and see if I have some pics. I'm sure I have a few at least to show you.
Far out! Thanks for your input and advice! I will look forward to seeing your pics. From what I understand, the rule of thumb for autos is to not cut on them at all, but I am finishing up a grow of one auto that I trimmed daily. It didn't die but I have a feeling that if I had left it alone that it would have had a lot more bud sites on it. So this time, I am going to make an effort to not cut on this plant at all, but I will see. I panicked when it was just coming out of veg because it looked like it was about to out grow my Tron so I pruned and topped the b'jesus out of it. If I get more than an ounce of bud out of it I will consider it a successful project and keep my Tron; if not then I trade it in for a ballast...time will tell. Anyway, to make a short story long, because I have a tendency to babble, I really appreciate your input and advice and will look forward to seeing your pics. :peace:
 

UniDragon

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I've only done it a couple times the reason I am trying it is I found a bunch of old organic gardening books and they swear by it,they contain all kinds of goodness, I take the water out of the coconut and mix it with the aloe my ratio is 1 cup coconut water with 1 tbsp raw aloe mix it in the blender makes 1 gal.
For this grow I'm starting 3, 1 control
1 all organic,( manure tea, eggshells, coconut water, aloe, shrimp water, etc
And the last will be fox farm trio pack.
Should be fun..
All of that sounds really intriguing. I am very curious as to how this will work out. Please post pics frequently as I am very curious as to how your recipes will pan out. I sure you have used this method before but all of that sounds like science fiction to me. Good luck and have fun with your grow!
 
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