top indicas for crossing with?

i'm not a fan of indicas at all myself, but just to show i can be neutral about it if that's what anyone needs or wants, why not start this thread for people to compare notes. i only know most of the strains i'll be listing by their reputations and the fact that they're really popular in crosses. maybe some of the strains will be new to some and of interest

afghani - the "original" indica... where all of those skunky strains originated. it's for anyone that wants skunky strains as well as getting back to IBL genetics and starting from scratch

northern lights #5 - the "beginners indica". it's low odor and productive. it's easy to grow and was one of the original indoor strains. it's in a ton of crosses

heroauna - is probably the most potent strain in the world

white widow - for those that absolutely need as many resin glands as possible for "bag appeal". white strains tend to lack flavor and smoke harsh though

G13 - another potent indica that was considered tops in potency before heroauna. very popular in crosses

critical + - one of the newer strains on the scene. it's showing up in tons of crosses. very fruity & skunky

OG kush - probably THE hottest indica for crosses these days as it's in almost everything. people love it's complex flavor, and people used to go nuts for it in california before it started showing up in crosses a couple years ago. it sold for insane prices

buddha's sister - i actually have a fem of this myself just because it's tart cherry flavor sounds yummy and off the radar as there aren't many cherry flavored strains out yet. i want to find a really nice fruity strain or two that make really delicious crosses as well as preserve the flavor in a haze strain for a cherrybomb 2.0, actually 3.0 as there's a cherrybomb indica and dr greenegenes original cherrybomb haze.

sour cream - it's not used in a lot of crosses that i know of, but it is one of the most delicious strains i've ever tried. crossed with a fruity strain, i imagine it producing awesome cheesecake flavors as it has a sweet cream cheese flavor. the buzz is almost a mid and not as unbearably stony as pure afghani and has nice euphoria and reasonable odor levels. i'm hoping my cross of that with much less stoney joey weed C99 x A11 preserves the delicious flavor with some of the hints of fruit that should be in it (never tested a female) while the buzz improves. only tutti fruity flavored highland thai and crushed red pepper tasting ORIGINAL kali mist are more tasty to me. blueberry isn't an indica, but it's "the most popular strain in the world", but i just don't get it. it has a similar mid buzz that doesn't inspire me and the taste just doesn't impress me. i've scored 2 different blueberries. sour cream is way sexier smelling & tasting.

by all means, share your personal experiences and opinions on these strains and add your own, though it would be nice if everyone didn't just list a bunch of variations on the theme like "G13 kush" or other crosses of two popular strains and named strains that stand on their own. yes, pretty much every strain i listed except afghani is an hybrid, but they are ALL building blocks for other crosses like G13 hazes. i know i've seen at least one sour cream cross besides my own.

hope this is a fun and informative thread for everyone

hazy u dont know shit about weed dude......... fuck a critical+.

Skunk = 25% afghan, 25% acalpulco gold, 50% columbian gold.

All the ogs ive grown were sativa leaning in structure. These were west coast cloneand s1s. If youre crossing id stick with the land race indicas from india afghanistan, morocco etc.

I think you want pure indica for breeding. Those strains you listed are hybrids faik.

Black Domina seems to be a very popular indica strain for mixing with almost anything.

whoever told you(and you believed) herijuana is the most potent indica in the world is a long way's off. ive grown it, it is easily better than commercial grade indica's yea, but it is not like you can get a 24% thc phenotypes in a 10 pack or even 20 pack of regs. their cbd is rediculously high which is what gives it the effects similar to heroin, hence the name. it smells like coffee and petrol oil, very smelly indeed. if i could breed with any indica, i would grow around 200 afghani, find the most potent female and use her to make seeds from a good sativa male.


ive got 7 delta 9 labs mekong haze 4 weeks in veg atm, stretchy ass plants, sativa landrace for sure, about 2' tall now under led's, very stacked nodes though... the led's are keeping them short, nothing but males have showed sex out of 10 germed plants. 6 males/4 females so far, killed the 3 earliest males to flower, keeping the latest 3 alive as they grow similar to the females with a bit more stretch. these seeds take about 7 days to germinate too. i'll be taking the best male Mekong haze and using him to make f2's and f1's with my super crystal mother plant.

hazey grapes said:

i'm not a fan of indicas at all myself, but just to show i can be neutral about it if that's what anyone needs or wants, why not start this thread for people to compare notes. i only know most of the strains i'll be listing by their reputations and the fact that they're really popular in crosses. maybe some of the strains will be new to some and of interest

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Why are you starting a thread on a topic of which you have no interest?

With the exception of afghani, all the strains you listed are hybrids, and some have a significantly high percentage of Sativa genetics too (eg White Widow, etc). Even Herijuana is an indica-sativa hybrid (see below). If you want a "pure" indica, then by definition it has to be a landrace strain originating in the subcontinent.

There are plenty of these strains out there, though how suitable they are as a basis for further hybridization at this point is another question.

As a matter of practice some huge percentage of modern strains have some part Northern Lights genetics in them already. In fact, I think of the strains you listed, many of them already probably share some genetic lineage.

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:

whoever told you(and you believed) herijuana is the most potent indica in the world is a long way's off..

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There is more than one thing floating around called "herijuana", even legitimately (eg Woodhorse, Motarebel, Sannie, etc) but at least some of it has tested at 20%+ THC. Almost by definition, the strains that people consider to be indicas should have high CBD levels.

I would agree with you that herijuana is almost certainly NOT the "most potent indica in the world", but if you get a good representation, it IS going to be really strong. While you can probably find indicas that are potentially stronger, you're probably not going to find one that's MUCH stronger.

Even if you did find a stronger indica, I'd hasten to add that pure potency shouldn't be the only criteria when picking an indica to use as a parent for breeding. Yield, flavor, and other growing characteristics matter too.

As a matter of practice, Herijuana probably *IS* a good strain to use as a parent strain to make some good crosses, since it itself is an inbred line, itself derived from two absolutely outstanding inbred North American outdoor grown inbred lines, and specifically selected for toughness and potency.

In other words, you're starting already with several key qualities any breeder would be looking for in a parent (stability, toughness, potency). What it lacks (flavor and yield) are possibly reasons to consider hybridization.

As a matter of practice, many of Sannie's strains are hybrids with this (eg Anesthesia, KOKush, MadShack, etc) and I've heard of a few others from Woodhorse and others (eg "Cherijuana").

Hazey,
One seed of BS prob wont get you a cherry pheno.
PLus if you crossed a Cherry mum to another plant its not cerian going to give you cherry hybrids.

What your doing is hacking not breeding


NL5 is an hybrid with sativa stone

back to top indicas??? Sensi Seeds- Maple Leaf Indica would be a proper strain to breed with. Hash Plant. any a kush landrace perhaps??

you're right i don't have experience smoking NAMED indicas. i avoid them like the plague if i can. even mids are too stoney for me. i'm just trying to "play nice" and give equal time to the indica enemy and stick with neutral to motovational strains with euphoria and psychoactivity for my own grows.

i'm not a fan of critical+ but a lot of breeders sure seem to be as it's in everything. i have a critical jack freebie myself.

heroauna has a rep for most potent that spans forums, i'm not sure, but maybe high times and definitely cannabible. i've seen percentages in the high 20s if not 30s for that strain where few score. REAL alaskan thunderfuck which does not exist anywhere, even in crosses no matter what anyone claims, should be the true THC champion. you'd need a time machine to verify that.

if a strain is overrated crap, call it out. i'm trying to learn here too even if i wouldn't actually grow any of this except maybe the buddha's sister.

so far, the only serious pheno variation would be in the coloring of my masterkush autos. my C99s had height variations, but there wasn't any real variation in flavor or buzz in either strain. i tend to think some people are a bit to anal about that "1:100" pheno thing. i'm more concerned with avoiding the worst, red getting stoned, than achieving the best in the world. anything that just gets me high is good enough for me, and anything that's better is just a nice bonus.

i am too breeding. not doing seriously SELECTIVE breeding, but i don't have the space to do it AND i'm looking more at strains than phenos right now. i'd expect a "bad pheno" of DNA's sweet haze to still be better than the best of the rest with just average tastes & THC profiles in the shootout i just did. there's some selection right there BTW as well as selecting for the red pheno masterkush for color crosses.

i'm just doing this for me and not selling seeds, so my "hacks" are just fine by me. my super cali haze x C99 was just as good as other breeders' hazes and even better than at least a couple, thought not as nice as sweet haze, but i was starting with inferior strains.

i've also made crosses with crosses i've made including my 25% apollo 11 cinderella BX and putting 25% A11 in the super cali haze cross i already made.

maybe i'm just hacking seeds, but for anyone that likes getting high, i bet they like my hacks better than any cup winning indica even worthy of the honor. then again, i'd rather smoke mexican brick than any skunky indica, so my tastes are extreme, but fans of getting high would appreciate my commitment to finding good strains that deliver those goods that are too rare on the streets.

if i don't breed for getting high, who else will? i think it's just that i refuse to go with anyone's programs or propaganda and demand doingt my own go against the flow thing that just pisses people off making them critical and nitpicky about of things that have nothing to do with the conversation.

here i'm trying to be nice to the enemy that took getting high off the streets in the 80s and STILL tries to keep it down through, oh, trolling anyone that questions the status quo. i can't stand indicas and everything in here would be unsatisfying shit to me, but some people like getting stoned and indicas can add favorable traits like increased resin production if careful selection to get rid of the stone is made.

why you gotta be talking about ME when i'm talking about weed? i thought i implied i'm not an expert on indicas, though i sure as fuck have a lot of textbook knowledge on them and what i've gleaned from strain reviews. i'm just trying to start a conversation that will help anyone looking to try the best indicas or breed superior crosses of their own with them. what's your problem? i mean really?

i'm inclined to think whoever hates critical+ either got a bad seed or fucked it up. it is in so many strains. there must be SOME reason so many people are breeding with it, and going by this review i just read of critical jack, i'm confident that it IS worthy of breeding with

Man am I glad I took cuttings off that thing. It currently blows everything else in the room away. By a long shot. It may flower longer but it clones quick and grows even quicker. And Yield is so worth the extra days. This is in the top 3 out of around 30 strains my co-op has now. It's fast become a favorite.

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a cross better than THIRTY other strains? if critical+ really were a schwag strain, it couldn't produce an awesome cross, much less one that embarrasses so many others a few of which, at least, should have been bred for quality too. i stand by my listing it. maybe YOU don't like the strain, but a lot of top breeders do, and this grower loves it in cross form. i'm hoping mine stands out over the other jack crosses i've tried so far and would add it to my future breeding goals if it turns out exceptional. it'd be hard pressed to compete with sweet haze though.

lol wall of advertising... all strains are hyped up bro. go plant some seeds, keep the ones with fat-wide leaves end of story

If you know you have no idea what the hell you are talking about, why do you keep talking?


HEY YOU CANT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!

You, of all people should know that since your every post is nothing but shit.

the crit + is dank

critical + is on the middle of a tall list of indica's i would actually breed with, i would go with something that was bred purely on quality of bud than on yield or anything else, potency above all, indicas provide great hybrid vigor to f1's so it doesn't make a difference if you use a high yielding strain like critical + when you can go for something like Deep Chunk, Devil or Super Crystal or Herijuana.

Ive done a few crosses with vanilla kush, it adds a lot of weight to a crossing. To me it yields more crossed than "whole" i have a bunch of ones i havent grown out, but have grown out a few each of vanilla kush x xj13 and vanilla kush x hindu skunk. I have since crossed each of those with super lemon haze yet havent grown them out yet.

If you are into purple, while its really a hybrid, blackwater is a good one.

Iwant to order world of seeds pakistan valley kush, if only to cross it with some sumatran land race seeds.(not available anywhere unless you can get someone to pick them up for you in sumatra, i.donesia).

LOL Herijauna is not even close to being that strong, it's not even top shelf in my book.

The strongest Indica's that I have tried are horded strains with unknown genetics that are clone only and unreleased to the public.

Anything I've ever crossed my Sensi Star with has been above average. Its a stable inbred line, and passes on its dominant aroma and yield genes.

go plant some seeds, keep the ones with fat-wide leaves end of story

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oh no... that's going in the wrong direction for me. i might end up using my critical jack for speed & yield breeding, but i'm always after better quality over quantity, so potent stretch 12 week haze skunk is much more to MY tastes and if anything, i'll be tackling 15 week plus strains down the road though there's some really nice highs out there already in the 9 week range and even racy clear headed C99 makes me happier than any indica dom ever could. i don't even like skunk #1, but DNA's lemon skunk is acceptable as it's functional. indica traits are mostly something to be avoided especially for the skunk funk & nugs you can't break apart with your fingers "bag appeal" traits, but stone is my enemy otherwise.

i do believe in fair play though and wouldn't want my personal contempt for indicas to deprive anyone that actually does love them or even need them for getting their fix, even if it prevents me from getting mine on the streets. my heart just isn't in this thread though.