Trichomes & Harvesting

rocpilefsj

Misguided Angel

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
OK, so in organic soil when I have mostly cloudy trichs, would it be enough to just flood them good once the last 2-3 days before chop? Also when you curing, how do you know when the bud will be fine in the jars without burping daily anymore..will the moisture quit building up in the jars when it's time?
I don't pre-harvest flush my plants at all. I see no reason to do it.
I rarely flush, and only do so if I have problems with salt buildup, nutrient levels or the like (which happens very rarely in my current hydro setup).

As roc said, get a hygrometer if possible.
Makes it a lot easier for you and it's not that expensive (you can get reliable hygrometers for ~$20 where I live).
It will ensure a properly executed cure, even if you're new to curing.
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
How do you attribute the fact that it won't stay lit to nitrogen? The same with question with regards to your phosphorous statement.
If that would even be possible (I have never seen or heard of it before) you must have overfed your plants with extreme doses to attain such high nutrient levels in the calyxes that what you describe would even be possible.

Tbh I think your weed was just too wet/damp to stay lit. The part about phosphorous being the spark could just as easily have been a stem bursting from the heat.
Listen to a commercial growers take on it I guess.

[video=youtube;SX91ABT-gns]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX91ABT-gns[/video]
 

SimonD

Well-Known Member
Listen to a commercial growers take on it I guess.

[video=youtube;SX91ABT-gns]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX91ABT-gns[/video]
Heh, let me share a small tidbit with you. At the end of a long day tending the op, when I want to relax and have a few laughs, I roll a fat one and fire up one of these videos. It doesn't matter which: Urban Grower, Jason Wilcox, or any of the Youtube canna people. We actually had a thread about the same thing on another forum. These folks really have no idea as to what they're talking about, unlike the information provided in this thread. Sure, once in a while they'll say something that sounds right to someone who solely reads growbooks, but on an applicable level they're a joke. Really. A comical outing. Laughs galore. Please understand that this particular discussion is a bright light in a sea of absolute stupidity. Folks can only hurt themselves by ignoring the information. Good luck.

Simon
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Heh, let me share a small tidbit with you. At the end of a long day tending the op, when I want to relax and have a few laughs, I roll a fat one and fire up one of these videos. It doesn't matter which: Urban Grower, Jason Wilcox, or any of the Youtube canna people. We actually had a thread about the same thing on another forum. These folks really have no idea as to what they're talking about, unlike the information provided in this thread. Sure, once in a while they'll say something that sounds right to someone who solely reads growbooks, but on an applicable level they're a joke. Really. A comical outing. Laughs galore. Please understand that this particular discussion is a bright light in a sea of absolute stupidity. Folks can only hurt themselves by ignoring the information. Good luck.

Simon
And you are????????
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Honestly, if you can't gather the fortitude to click on the links in my sig... Google works, too. Best of luck with your grow.

Simon
Those plants look nice. But I was expecting a large commercial grower the way you were bashing Remo. I guess I was a tad defensive because Remo has helped me out in the past when I was in Vancouver and that guy grows 1lb plants indoors pretty regularly.

I'm sure you're better though.
 

SimonD

Well-Known Member
Those plants look nice. But I was expecting a large commercial grower the way you were bashing Remo. I guess I was a tad defensive because Remo has helped me out in the past when I was in Vancouver and that guy grows 1lb plants indoors pretty regularly.

I'm sure you're better though.
Can anyone really be this stupid? It's as if you want to flame and argue solely for the sake of flaming and arguing. And here I thought this forum was supposed to help other grow. Instead of trying to comprehend the information presented, you're debating factors compelely outside of your reach, just for the sake of disagreeing. It's absurd. I so regret ever posting here. Honestly.

Simon

 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Not sure what you're trying to prove by posting a pic of what looks to be 2.5lbs. I grow that in a bedroom. I was talking about large commercial growers.

No biggie. You seem very defensive. Guess no one better question you ever about laughing at large commercial growers. LOL
 

SimonD

Well-Known Member
Not sure what you're trying to prove by posting a pic of what looks to be 2.5lbs. I grow that in a bedroom. I was talking about large commercial growers.

No biggie. You seem very defensive. Guess no one better question you ever about laughing at large commercial growers. LOL


^^^ This must exemplify the 2.5lbs you dreamt about harvesting. No wonder you have such an err... astute sense of scale.

Here's the ironic thing about all this. You were asking about starting a commercial grow not too long ago. Clearly, your personal cultivation efforts leave a bit to be desired, yet, at this very moment, you're talking to a grower who can pull up to 4oz dry/cured for every square foot of his room. And what do you do? Instead of maybe trying to find out how it's done, for your own benefit no less, you play games and argue endlessly. Stupid is as stupid does.

I wish the mods would delete all this, my (latter) posts included. Why is it that so many threads here turn into some blowhard kid trolling the population? This is a joke. Not in a good way. These events are actively driving real growers away from this forum, that seem to get replaced by more trolling children. WTF?

Simon
 

SimonD

Well-Known Member
so you pick a pic of 3 plants from week 3 of a grow to somehow reflect something? Yea I bet you want mods to delete this man. You come off as a douche. You started attacking a couple of really quality growers who help a lot of people out and saying you laugh at them. Now you want to back peddle? You coward?

Fuck you.
I don't question their intentions; no doubt they're very good. It's the pseudo-scientific gibberish, highly suspect assertions of cousal relationships, and of course the relatively uneventful plants. Amateur stuff. Nothing wrong with that in itself, other than the humor behind someone presenting himself as an expert with such a limited level of skill and general comprehension of the process, but I digress. You chose to present one of these silly videos as a rebuttal to someone for more educated than yourself, as if the fact the video exists, in itself, is some kind of lamebrain proof. What I told you, as an actual grower, was that folks like me watch that stuff for laughs and you should listen more closely to the info in this thread. Apparently you found that concept very upsetting. Sorry.

Simon
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Listen to a commercial growers take on it I guess.

[video=youtube;SX91ABT-gns]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX91ABT-gns[/video]

I didn't get much from that video other than his personal opinion. He sounds like he's a fan of flushing, which would explain his opinion on the matter.
I'd like to see some links to scientific information showing proof of what he's talking about (You are welcome to PM me the info).
I don't want to get into a large discussion about flushing in this thread since this is a sticky ment to assist people in the harvesting process.
It's not really a discussion based thread for theories and personal opinions, it's ment to contain purely factual information.



I have presented my proof of how nutrient storage, transportation and consumption within plants work, you can find it (as I've already mentioned in this thread) if you search for my nick and check my previous posts.

I'm repeating myself, but for the sake of the argument I will.

Cannabis nutrient storage and transportation around the plant is very complicated. I'm not fully explaining every aspect of the processes in the following;
Basically the nutrients are "stored" in the leaves and roots, fan leaves more so than sugar leaves.
Stems also contain a lot of nutrients but this is more to the fact of the xylem, phloem and other plant mechanisms being the main way of transporting water (and therefore nutrients) around.

The ratios are different depending on which nutrient we're talking about and also which supply (deficient vs critical vs abundant).
For example nitrate ions are 'stored' ~3:1 in leaves compared with the roots.
Whereas phosphate ions are 'stored' ~2:1 in roots compared with the leaves.
Suffice to say that there is a reason why fan leaves (and roots which is readily visible in hydro grows) react to overfeeding and underfeeding first and most severely.

The calyxes themselves do not contain an abundance of nutrients at any point in the growth, unless you heavily overfeed your plants. And you have to overfeed A LOT.
Most abundance nutrients by far end up in the leaves, roots and stems.
Cannabis plants are highly efficient, they use up the nutrients supplied to the calyxes very quickly, almost entirely eliminating any chances of nutrients building up in the calyxes, except for extreme cases.
This is evident in the scientific information I have provided in past posts.



I will just end with saying that I don't want to see any more arguments in this thread, I have deleted some of your posts, Lucius & Simon.
I hope you understand that it's so we can keep this thread on topic, easy to navigate for people who need help and useful throughout.
 

bramwell73

Active Member
plant.jpgplant2.jpgits been asked before but can i put a plant in the dark for 2 days harvest the buds that are ready , then put here back to mature the bottom plant? or would this bugger it up?
also one of my plants is taking ages to mature-loads of clear trichs some cloudy, hairs are still comming out white, some are orange ,
thanks guys, if you need pics i will get some up ,
 

Subu

Well-Known Member
View attachment 2168882View attachment 2168883its been asked before but can i put a plant in the dark for 2 days harvest the buds that are ready , then put here back to mature the bottom plant? or would this bugger it up?
also one of my plants is taking ages to mature-loads of clear trichs some cloudy, hairs are still comming out white, some are orange ,
thanks guys, if you need pics i will get some up ,
The buds in both pics don't look near ready, as to your question i'm not sure but i'll say anyway "It will stress the plant" lol.
 

bramwell73

Active Member
its a bugger as the days are getting short , i guess ill take em in at night(to avoid frost ) and keep them as long as i can outside.i uess thats better than harvesting early ,
any advise would be great, its mid autumn now.
 

tharoomman

Well-Known Member
View attachment 2168882View attachment 2168883its been asked before but can i put a plant in the dark for 2 days harvest the buds that are ready , then put here back to mature the bottom plant? or would this bugger it up?
also one of my plants is taking ages to mature-loads of clear trichs some cloudy, hairs are still comming out white, some are orange ,
thanks guys, if you need pics i will get some up ,
You can do a 1/2 harvest and then flower some more. A lot of people do it. Depending on strain it may take a week or more for the plant to recover from a partial harvest and to start flowering again.
 
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