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UN: Russia won’t permit aid workers in flooded areas after Ukraine dam collapse
The United Nations is claiming that Russia is not letting aid workers into the area near the dam collapse in southern Ukraine.
The U.N. humanitarian coordinator for Ukraine, Denise Brown, said in a statement that her staff has been reaching out to the governments of Ukraine and Russia to gain access to the area ravaged by the destruction of the Kakhovka dam. The collapse of the dam caused flooding in the region and prompted evacuations and has killed at least 14 people.

Brown said that Russia has denied the U.N.’s request to send aid into the region. “The Government of the Russian Federation has so far declined our request to access the areas under its temporary military control,” Brown said in a statement. “The UN will continue to engage to seek the necessary access. We urge the Russian authorities to act in accordance with their obligations under international humanitarian law.”

“Aid cannot be denied to people who need it,” she added. “The UN will continue to do all it can to reach all people – including those suffering as a result of the recent dam destruction — who urgently need life-saving assistance, no matter where they are.”

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a press call that attacks in the region made sending in aid too risky, the Associated Press reported. He did not explicitly say whether Russia had denied access to the U.N.

“There has been constant shelling, constant provocations, civilian facilities and the civilian population have come under fire, people have died, so it’s really difficult to ensure their security,” Peskov said.

Experts have suggested that Russian forces may be to blame for the collapse of the dam. An Associated Press analysis found that Russia had the means and the opportunity to bring down the dam according to drone photos and information obtained by the news service.

The AP reported that the photos appear to show a car loaded with explosives atop of the dam structure.
Both Ukraine and Russia have blamed the other for the collapse of the dam, with Russia claiming that a missile or explosive took it down. The AP noted that Russia’s theories would not account for the blast of the dam showing up on seismic monitors in the region.
 

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Not sure if the images are showing, only one is for me.
Russia had means, motive and opportunity to destroy Ukraine dam, drone photos and information show




Russia had the means, motive and opportunity to bring down a Ukrainian dam that collapsed earlier this month while under Russian control, according to exclusive drone photos and information obtained by The Associated Press.

Images taken from above the Kakhovka Dam and shared with the AP appear to show an explosive-laden car atop the structure, and two officials said Russian troops were stationed in a crucial area inside the dam where the Ukrainians say the explosion that destroyed it was centered. The Russian Defense Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Russia has benefited from the timing of the massive flooding that followed the explosion — though areas it occupies also experienced a deluge and the consequences may have been more extensive than expected.
In the region around the dam, the Dnieper River forms the front line between Russian and Ukrainian forces, with Russian ones in control of the dam itself.

Two Ukrainian commanders who had been in the area but at different locations told the AP that the rising waters quickly swamped their positions and Russian ones and destroyed equipment, forcing them to start all over again with their planning and leaving them facing a much larger distance to cover, all in mud. One spoke on condition of anonymity in order to reveal more frankly the extent of the problems caused by the rising waters.
“It’s a regular practice, to mine (places) before a retreat,” said the other, Illia Zelinskyi, commander of Bugskiy Gard. “In this context, their actions were to disrupt some of our supply chains as well as complicate a crossing of the Dnieper for us.”

As recently as the day before the structure’s June 6 collapse, Russians had set up a firing position inside the dam’s crucial machine room, where Ukrhydroenergo, the agency that runs the dam system, said the explosion originated. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said as early as October 2022 that the dam was mined.

Zelinskyi, who is not related to the Ukrainian president, confirmed that the explosion seemed to come from the area where the machine room is located. He and an American official familiar with the intelligence both confirmed that Russian forces had been ensconced there for some time. The American spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive material.

In the days leading up to the single explosion, Ukrainian military drone videos showed dozens of Russian soldiers encamped on a bank of the Dnieper, relaxed as they walked back and forth to the dam with no cover — suggesting their confidence in their control of the area and especially the dam, which was strategically crucial.

The photos, taken from Ukrainian drone footage, obtained by the AP and dated May 28, showed a car parked on the dam, its roof neatly cut open to reveal enormous barrels, one with what appears to be a land mine attached to the lid and a cable running toward the Russian-held side of the river. It’s not clear how long the car remained.

A Ukrainian special forces communications official, who also noted the car appeared to be rigged, said he believed the purpose of that was twofold: to stop any Ukrainian advance on the dam and to amplify the planned explosion originating in the machine room and destroy the top of the dam. The car bomb itself would not have been enough to bring down the dam. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to preserve operational secrecy.

Immediately after the dam’s collapse, some experts noted that the structure was in disrepair, which could have led to the breach. But the area most obviously in disrepair, a section of roadbed near the edge where Russian forces had detonated explosives to block a Ukrainian offensive last fall, was still intact days after most of the rest of the dam collapsed.

Ukraine’s intelligence service released an intercepted conversation it said was between a Russian soldier and someone else in which the soldier said “our sabotage groups were there. They wanted to create a scare with the dam. It didn’t quite go according to plan.”
 

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‘A little bit ridiculous’: Retired general on Russia’s new tactic

100,515 views Jun 19, 2023 #CNN #News
Russia’s Ministry of Defense has claimed that a Ukrainian stronghold was destroyed by a remotely controlled tank packed with a huge amount of explosives, in what appears to be a new battlefield tactic. Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling discusses the potential impact of Russia’s move and Kyiv’s claim that it has recaptured several villages in south Ukraine. #CNN #News
 

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‘A little bit ridiculous’: Retired general on Russia’s new tactic

100,515 views Jun 19, 2023 #CNN #News
Russia’s Ministry of Defense has claimed that a Ukrainian stronghold was destroyed by a remotely controlled tank packed with a huge amount of explosives, in what appears to be a new battlefield tactic. Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling discusses the potential impact of Russia’s move and Kyiv’s claim that it has recaptured several villages in south Ukraine. #CNN #News
here is the vid, ck out the cuncushion wave...

 

Fogdog

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I almost sat for the whole video, on 1.75X speed though. The guy says there is cholera in Odessa also from the dam.

He's a terrible speaker. I can't listen to him any more. The way he fumbles about with both is words and graphics is too much for me. I especially hate how he continuously circles the pointer around his objects on his screen is too much.

I'm satisfied with media that provides verified information with less detail.
 

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Fogdog

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Sounds like another propaganda speach to justify our continued involvement in this conflict that we helped create, to destroy economically, our old enemy, Russia.
What are you beefing about?

According to Putin, Russia's economy grew at a good rate last year (3%). This conflict seems to be going splendidly for him and Russia.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Joe is making moves that are making China and Russia nervous, India has border issues with China and would make a good ally in the region, along with Vietnam and the other Asian tiger economies who are benefiting from China's decline and worried about its aggressiveness. Except for central Asia, China is pretty well boxed in with South Korea, Japan and the Philippines, along with Australia, NZ and other allies.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Tethered drones could provide the eyes for future tanks, fighting and scout vehicles and be deployed on the move to give an all-round view and even detect incoming fire automatically to trigger defenses. A view from a couple of hundred feet above with a zoom camera would be a big help on the battlefield and could spot targets and dangers. They could be contained in a box mounted to the top of the vehicle and quickly deployed or reeled in as required, are hard to see, emit no radio signals, have night vision and can be cheaply and quickly replaced if damaged.

 

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He's a terrible speaker. I can't listen to him any more. The way he fumbles about with both is words and graphics is too much for me. I especially hate how he continuously circles the pointer around his objects on his screen is too much.

I'm satisfied with media that provides verified information with less detail.
Yeah that pointer was hard to take. Good thing I have another computer running so I can double task and just look briefly to get an idea where he was talking about. I did find it interesting how he gathers the information to figure out who is where. And then his saying at places like Avdiivka where the two sides are loosing 50% of their soldiers, we do not get that information regularly.
 
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