War

Roger A. Shrubber said:

Beau is a pretty reliable source of good information

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Funny you think so. The one video I watched of his months ago, his facts seemed all off to me, so I checked them. He way way wrong. Seems to me that he just appeals to a weird sort of liberal-redneck sensibility, in a common-man sort of way.

Let's see if the Hague/Geneva Convention has any fucking balls and goes to whatever lengths/means necessary to bring Putin to Justice.

The fuckers a murderer/war criminal, plain & simple

This was the NYT cover on Monday.

The dead in the photo were of a mother, 43, one daughter 18 & the youngest 9, plus a male helping the family to escape a barrage



That fucker needs to die

And the husband/father was with his sick mother in another part of Ukraine & found out about it it on fucking Twitter.
Can you believe it was uploaded that fast?
He was asked if the photos & video bothered him, and he said absolutely not, he wanted the World to see/know about the atrocities being committed.

You know what?

Everyday that goes by my respect & admiration of the Ukrainian people grows.
They really are amazing.
Rember when I said that that for evil, usually there's a glimmer of hope somewhere in that situation.
1st I thought about it's a good time to go totally Green so no country has to rely on another country for fuel.
I just thought of another
This War has actually, except China, really unified the World.
Putin has pissed off almost the entire Plant.
Ah shit, in a way I pity the Russians because in 2 months hell will be upon them, and hardly anyone will give a fuck until the riots in Red Square where troops shoot them ends up on YouTube.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i've always been told that "face" is very important to the Chinese, the sense of self, and your place in society, in the social hierarchy.
i don't think Xi knew what putin was planning, or at least the time frame of it, or else he would have held off making such a binding statement publicly. He can act mysterious at home, and just allude to it vaguely to avoid raising tensions with the rest of the world, while avoiding losing face with his own people. i think he is regretting making a "no limits" deal with putin now, but done in public is done...the best he can hope for now is not alienating either side.

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Offmymeds said:

I guarantee the Chinese knew what he was planning at least since the invasion of Crimea. It has been predicted for some time.

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I love this forum. After discussion, everything becomes so clear.

PJ Diaz said:

Nice bike, what kind of range and speed does that thing get? Taking trikes around sharp corners can be fun and exhilarating, so long as you stay on at least 2-wheels. Nice tires too. I was thinking about getting some Kenda k270's for my bike, but I think I'm gonna go for Shinko 244's instead.

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It will do 30mph, which is WAY too fast, and has 50mile range. Taking corners isn't so bad once you get used to it. This thing is pedal assist or no power or all power. The rear basket can hold 2 grocery bags and there is a front basket that i have never installed. Trike came with the fat tires, rides hella nice.

doublejj said:

It will do 30mph, which is WAY too fast, and has 50mile range. Taking corners isn't so bad once you get used to it. This thing is pedal assist or no power or all power. The rear basket can hold 2 grocery bags and there is a front basket that i have never installed. Trike came with the fat tires, rides hella nice.

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Wow, that sounds pretty awesome. I had one of the first e-bikes before it was cool about 20-years ago. We didn't have any lithium batteries back then, so just huge lead acid batteries which weighed a ton. It was a bike conversion that attached a 600watt motor to the rear hub, controlled via thump throttle. I got one for my girlfriend's schwinn back then too. Unfortunately as is often true with first generation stuff, it was super cool, but also had major flaws. I even had one of those electric stand up scooters way back then. Only went around 20mph, but that was way fast enough for crusing through the streets at 2am when I got off work on may home. That way I could have a few beers at the end night and still get home ok.

Fogdog said:

I clicked on the link and pulled up the map.

That convoy from Belarus. The one that is 40 miles long and still stalled out. Their position is threatened. Why bother shipping arms into Ukraine when they can be taken from Russian soldiers and their supply train?

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yeah, i have been wondering how long it would take to get around to them, 40 miles of cold, hungry, disgruntled russians...just start adressing them over a pa system, "give up and we'll give you a warm cot to sleep on and warm food to eat, just throw down your weapons." any of them that resist get an NLAW up the ass.

PJ Diaz said:

Wow, that sounds pretty awesome. I had one of the first e-bikes before it was cool about 20-years ago. We didn't have any lithium batteries back then, so just huge lead acid batteries which weighed a ton. It was a bike conversion that attached a 600watt motor to the rear hub, controlled via thump throttle. I got one for my girlfriend's schwinn back then too. Unfortunately as is often true with first generation stuff, it was super cool, but also had major flaws. I even had one of those electric stand up scooters way back then. Only went around 20mph, but that was way fast enough for crusing through the streets at 2am when I got off work on may home. That way I could have a few beers at the end night and still get home ok.

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I started with a Schwinn trike conversion years ago. 1000watt front hub with heavy ass lead acid batteries wired in a series in the back basket.

Offmymeds said:

I guarantee the Chinese knew what he was planning at least since the invasion of Crimea. It has been predicted for some time.

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deniability counts for a lot in international politics...i'm sure he knew what was coming, but i'm not so sure he knew how soon, if he had any idea putin was going to do this before summer, i don't think he would have made that deal, at least no publicly

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'm wondering exactly how many OPERATIONAL nuclear weapons putin has? how many can be put on launch alert at one time? in short, how many would we have to knock down to keep from being struck?
would he even attack the U.S. without direct provocation? he has a lot of shit to worry about right across his own borders.
is there no way to knock out his ability to launch missiles at the EU and other targets? are these zircon missiles i'm hearing about intercontinental? are they even real? did they actually develop the missiles like they told putin they would, or did they steal 90% of the funding to buy a new yacht? this is why i don't go to the casino, i hate gambling...
and just exactly how much of a bulwark against nuclear exchange is NATO? putin is either unhinged, or keeping a huge secret...or perhaps both. why does he care about NATO outside of a conventional war? if he feels pressured he will push that button, count on it, and won't give a fuck what NATO has to say about that, or anything else

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I don't think Putin is that nut's to use nukes.
Actually, he can't use them
Consequences are too high & the fuckers are useless on a European battlefield, unless you don't mind killing your own soldiers & rendering the area uninhabitable for around 100,000 years.
Also if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction, like towards them, they'll all have cancer in a couple of years & die
Tactical nukes are a waste of money.

doublejj said:

I started with a Schwinn trike conversion years ago. 1000watt front hub with heavy ass lead acid batteries wired in a series in the back basket.
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Your a FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very cool (especially the handlebars )

Offmymeds said:

Putin is in a world of hurt. He can't trust his advisers, his generals, his oligarchs, or China. I can imagine the deals he might be forced to cut with China. China knows he'd renege on any future benefits, such as, oil/gas leases and any kind of collaboration. The last thing Putin wants is to be subjugated to China the way he subjugates small states. He wanted to keep it all and may lose it all.

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WILL LOSE IT ALL...except for one of his own missiles, which will be shoved down his throat till it comes out of his ass, and i'll be happy to jump up and down on it till it does...
sorry, just read that story about the Perebeinis family. motherfuckers that do that to people have to go...to thousand, hundreds of thousands...i'd beat him to death right now if i can get my hands on him, i'll put wado ryu up against judo any day

A big bag of prisoners is possible and they might get more of these guys with surrender negotiations rather than fighting them, if they are cut off. Being a POW is better than being Putin's victim for many and besides the food will be good! I thought they would do better on the west side of the city, there are bridges behind the Russians that can be blown and that column is jamming the road. But these guys are doing well on the northeast Kyiv front too and look set to bag most of his combat force there. Prisoners running around being interviewed on the news, will be a much bigger issue for Vlad, than dead soldiers, the living make more noise than the dead. Of course senior officers might be sent off to The Hague, everything is being documented and communications recorded, they don't need a warrant! The first ones shipped to The Hague, even if released later, will have an effect on those firing on buildings and women and children. They don't know what will happen in the future, Vlad could fall and handing them over might be part of a new deal with a new government, as they open up again.
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DIY-HP-LED said:

Soon they will be destroying those stopped convoys, truck by truck, except that which they take to make IEDs and they have expert instruction in that! When the Russians come to clear the wreckage and open the road, the IEDs will be waiting buried under the wrecked vehicles or in them, so will the snipers, who will slow things down a lot. Every forested or built up area, even if it's ruble, they pass through will become a death trap of gun fire and RPGs, tanks brought up to deal with it will get Javelins or NLAWs, stingers will take care of close tactical air. They will seek to starve and cut off the combat troops at the front and over run or snipe artillery units, even with RPGs. It will get worse for the Russians everyday, as the Ukrainians field more trained and equipped men, both irregulars, reservists and regular army.

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they need to make a lot of dummy IEDs, put them in every damn vehicle they pass, with enough real ones to make sure the russians don't get lazy about them...and while they're cautiously checking, the Ukrains can take them out from ambush. make them fucking earn every inch

Roger A. Shrubber said:

they need to make a lot of dummy IEDs, put them in every damn vehicle they pass, with enough real ones to make sure the russians don't get lazy about them...and while they're cautiously checking, the Ukrains can take them out from ambush. make them fucking earn every inch

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There will be enough Russian ordnance laying around that not many need be fake! The still have cell phone service too and millions of old cellphones, the SIM cards will be free and the calls one way!

doublejj said:

I bought a Prius today & parked the ol F250. No more $175 fillups 55mpg here i come
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We are a two Prius family. I've always said the higher gas prices go, the smarter I look.

It will help with drone attacks a bit, adjacent vehicles won't go up too, however it makes them vulnerable to partisan and infantry attack from those woods they are hiding in or near. The Ukrainians can move forces (they would not need many) by ATVs over fields for long distances or even bring them close by helicopter, flying over friendly air space at low level. They can also send teams to blow bridges further north. If they can get arms packages and advisers to the locals around the area, even better.
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Stalled 40-mile-long Russian convoy near Kyiv now largely dispersed, satellite images show

With the clouds temporarily clearing around the Ukrainian capital, new satellite images taken earlier on Thursday show that the Russian military convoy northwest of Kyiv that stretched more than 40 miles (more than 64 kilometers) has "largely dispersed and redeployed," Maxar Technologies says.

The satellite images show that some elements of the convoy have "repositioned" into forests and treelined areas near Lubyanka, Ukraine, according to Maxar. The satellite images were taken at 11:37 a.m. Kyiv time (4.37 a.m. ET) on Thursday.

Just north of the Antonov Airbase in Hostomel, Ukraine, Russian military vehicles are seen sitting on roadways in residential areas in the town of Ozera — 17 miles northwest of Kyiv.

Towed artillery and other vehicles are seen taking cover in a sparse patches of trees near Lubyanka — about three miles northwest of the Antonov Airbase.

In Berestyanka — 10 miles west of the airbase — a number of fuel trucks and, what Maxar says, appears to be multiple rocket launchers are seen positioned in a field near trees.

Southeast of Ivankiv — the end of what was the 40+ mile convoy — a number of trucks and equipment are still seen on the roadway.

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In Berestyanka -- ten miles west of the airbase -- a number of fuel trucks and what Maxar says appears to be multiple rocket launchers are seen positioned in a field near trees. (Maxar

PBS Frontline 2 hour segment on Putin.

It's easy to forget the depth of his evil and how long it's been brewing.

I was looking at google earth and was looking at and around Kharkiv the contested city in the north east that they are shelling. If you look the satellite images, there is no way the Russians can get the suburbs and I think it might even be open to the south. refugees can get out and arms and supplies can flow in, keeping it open for this will be a major focus. If weapons can flow in even the suburbs would be a death trap and could swallow up whole divisions no problem. In the south the Russians will get it from both directions, from Kharkiv and from the growing forces trying to relieve it from the south. Control of highways and junctions is critical, but there are many back roads too. If tractor trailers with hundreds of tons of weapons and supplies get into the place it will be bad for the Russians. Kharkiv is a mere 20Km from the Belarus border and if the Russians can't take the place after 2 weeks of war, they won't have a chance in a week. Have a look at the place on google earth and zoom in to 200 meters or so and you will see that to take the place would require Vlad's entire army in Ukraine, if the citizens were armed and the Ukrainian army was inside the place.