War

Sativied said:

People can continue to double down on this all they want, it’s simply not going to happen in the unforseeable future. And even then, when it’s about to happen, we’ll still block it. Guaranteed.

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why? i honestly don't know...there's way too many policies to try to keep track of, way to many fights and feuds and hard feelings...i read the story but that all sounds like excuses...did Ukraine piss in NL's cheerios once or something?

The chairman of the Board of the Center for Defense Strategies Andriy Zagorodnyuk talks about the actual losses of the enemy, the invading army’s reserves, and possible offensive tactics.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

why? i honestly don't know...there's way too many policies to try to keep track of, way to many fights and feuds and hard feelings...i read the story but that all sounds like excuses...did Ukraine piss in NL's cheerios once or something?

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Fair questions only if you have no idea what the EU is and what EU membership means not just for the Ukraine but for the rest of the EU. Sun’s coming up, I’ll elaborate tomorrow cause I’ll be happy to defend against absurd suggestions. For now I’ll leave it at this analogy:

Sativied said:

How about state building instead? Maybe the only way Iraq or Afghanistan could have worked is if all 50 states in the US agree unanimously to give them statehood, implement US law, American passports and open the borders for all their citizens, veto right for their governments on major packages, representives from their governments in the House, billions of dollars every year for their governments, sharing an election, foreign policy, economy, currency, jobs, houses, land. Or maybe tell them “be good and maybe some day you too can be a state in the US of A”? I know, absurd suggestion.

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I can't see any of the money frozen or seized returned to the Russian government or oligarchs after this shit, Ukraine and it's citizens have a very good case for taking it all, every last ruble and dime. Trump could end up with his golf courses going to Ukraine, if they were paid for by Russian money and they are looking for all Russian money and launderers, including real-estate ones. Donald won't be able to pay back his Russian backers with the world financial system tighter than a gnats asshole.

schuylaar said:

My thoughts:

The United States is not putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. Period. Full stop.

This us a NATO Operation..where's the UN and their little jeeps with white flags?

"Close the sky"..who is Zelensky talking to? Ukraine is not a NATO country and there are rules.

Putin is looking for a reason..don't give it to him..you know in the end he's going to twist something around and use that as the excuse.

If they want to close the skies why do they need planes?

I don't understand why Putin id making Eastern Ukraine into a 'no mans land'. Why?

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What reason is Putin " looking for " , war with USA ? If he ends up fabricating
" reason" regardless , why worry about giving him one. Yea, why would fighter jets be needed , what help would they be , they don't need them( I don't buy off on all news)... Zelensky is just begging for no good reason .......what would he know about it anyway.! Let Putin roll Eastern Europe, we don't want to make him upset. Rules !
I love that , Stalin's reincarnate is on the march. If you not in our club run like Hell !
No hard feelings, I'm just terribly pissed and emotional over this atrocity.

Sativied said:

Fair questions only if you have no idea what the EU is and what EU membership means not just for the Ukraine but for the rest of the EU. Sun’s coming up, I’ll elaborate tomorrow cause I’ll be happy to defend against absurd suggestions. For now I’ll leave it at this analogy:

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i guess i actually don't have a real idea what membership entails...i've always just thought it was an economic collective, with some perks like international drivers licenses and the common currency, never thought about the civic part of it...

At $6.6 Billion India is Russia s biggest arms buyer. India s silence is contributing directly to the slaughter of innocents by bolstering Russia’s aggressive stance, (hey we got frens so we must be ok, kill more)
Fuck Russia and Fuck India now

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i guess i actually don't have a real idea what membership entails...i've always just thought it was an economic collective, with some perks like international drivers licenses and the common currency, never thought about the civic part of it...

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I have no idea and I’ve been in it for ever, but I met my wife due to freedom of travel and work across borders so I think it was cool. Brexit was a Russian op lead by Trumps point man in the U.K. Farage, It’s good to be able to write that now without sounding like a nut

India refers to it's russian military plains as flying coffins.

Sativied said:

Xenophobic whites moving mostly to xenophobic white countries. Will they repell each other like magnets with the same pole? Maybe not, Polish for example are not that different from Ukrainians. And in west europe, our babyboomers are dying and lazy millennials don’t feel like working in a welfare state. Just in NL 400k jobs open, 50k in healthcare, expected to tripple, for which we are desperately trying to find people. In an area in Spain in 2019 they needed 10k strawberry pluckers and managed to get only 600 while in the same area 9k is on unemployment. Lazy fuckers. Which many Ukranians are known to be not. That’s why Rotterdam is taking them in with open arms, huge shortage of workers in the port of Rotterdam.

Since Syria, there has been a lot of pressure to divide refugees and immigrants across EU members more fairly. Especially some of the countries to which Ukranians flee now have been slacking. Hungary built a 106miles ‘wall’ to keep muslim refugees out. In addition to millions of Ukranian refugees, food shortages will result in many more millions of refugees from Africa. By taking in Ukranians, the rest of the EU will go along sooner with them taking in less non-white refugees.

The not pretty dark picture is being painted in real time right now. Sure there will be incidents, some media will overblow it, but Julia is writing a fictional drama that is unlikely to become reality.

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Well you are in Europe,and are intelligent from what I see from your posts,hopefully your scenario is truer than Julia's, she was born in Russia and is a respected voice on Eastern Europe, though mostly Russia and Ukraine,I'm 1/2 pole,and 1/4 germ. and 1/4 hungarian, so we'll see, my countries of ethnic heritage are on the spot.

The mad midget better be careful making deals with China. He's paranoid about restoring his russian empire and protecting those borders. The mad midgets empire has 146,000,000 people and has lots of grain and energy. China shares a border with the mad midget and has 1,400,000,000 people and needs food and energy. If the mad midgets military is weakened will his crazy chinese neighbor think about taking the mad midgets energy and food by force? China has a small airforce and navy so a ground war for them is the only real option.

Fogdog said:

They haven't used any of their newest aircraft. I admit that I stopped paying attention to it lately so maybe it has changed but the aircraft used during what should have been considered the most critical early days were described as aged and in bad shape. As if they are holding the newest aircraft in reserve. Two weeks of fighting, 4000 dead, tanks, trucks, helicopters, MIGs, Billions of dollars worth of equipment lost. They either have a grand strategy and waiting for the right moment or they have nothing.

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I've also dialed back my attention span,was getting depressed,but I've also noticed they have held back a little,although SU-34's have been lost and they are top shelf in the Russian inventory,they barely have any field ready gen5 SU-57's in play,the Armata tank is not in mass production yet, but tactically speaking they are a mess regardless of equipment used. They should have inserted Spetsnaz clandestinely to do all the recon instead of sending columns of APC's filled w/ conscripts to be slaughtered,hell those poor bastards thought they were on manouvers. They should have dropped Airborne in Western Ukraine to interdict supplies coming east, and their logistic train is a joke. They're are also many AWOL Russian conscripts wandering in Ukraine and damn their are acres of destroyed Russian equipment littering Ukraine, but the destruction of Ukranian infrastructure and civilian neighborhoods is tragic and stunning and I ask myself who and how is this going to be rebuilt,no MF precision warfare went on over there,that's obviously a fact.

China backs unsubstantiated Russian claims of US biolabs in Ukraine
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has made unverified claims that Russia has discovered U.S. biolabs in the nation to “develop ethnically targeted biological weapons,” the Associated Press reported.

“This Russian military operation has uncovered the secret of the U.S. labs in Ukraine, and this is not something that can be dealt with in a perfunctory manner,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said Thursday.

“It is not something they can muddle through by saying that China’s statement and Russia’s finding are disinformation, and are absurd and ridiculous,” he added.

Headlines by Chinese-backed media have read “Russia reveals evidence of U.S.-funded bio-program in Ukraine,” “China urges U.S. to disclose more details about biolabs in Ukraine” and “US tries to refute ‘rumors’ about its biolabs in Ukraine, but can we believe it?” according to the AP.

The U.S. has been quick to condemn Russian accusations of biolabs in Ukraine and says Russia could be using the allegation as an excuse to launch its own biological attack.

Although Russia has committed to an international agreement not to use chemical or biological weapons, the country is already accused of multiple war crimes against Ukraine and its citizens.

The country has spread multiple lies to justify its war in Ukraine from the Ukrainian government is full of neo-Nazis to Russia is liberating the Ukrainian people.

NATO: Russia is launching many air operations from Belarus
NATO on Thursday told CNN aboard a surveillance plane that Russia is launching many of their air operations against Ukraine from Belarus.

CNN joined NATO on its Airborne Warning and Control System (AWCS) plane that is used on the Ukrainian-Poland border to collect intelligence. The Russians know the planes are there and try to jam their radar, NATO’s technical director told CNN.

NATO mission’s technical director told the outlet the “vast majority” of Russian jets have been found coming to Ukraine from Belarus, a neighboring country and ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

A U.S. defense official said this week Russia is launching air operations from Belarus, the Black Sea, Russia and Ukraine.

The NATO members on the plane say it is hard to tell if Belarus has any of its own troops participating in the war as Russia, Belarus and Ukraine all use similar fighter jets.

NATO tactical director Denis Guillaume said Thursday that a dozen Russian jets were idling in Belarus. When asked by CNN if NATO is sharing this intelligence with Ukraine, he declined to answer.

“I cannot answer that question,” Guillaume said. The technical director told the outlet, “The only thing I can tell you right now is that we, as NATO allies, are sharing the data with NATO countries.”

However, the technical director said the NATO countries can do with the intelligence what they want. Although it isn’t clear what information the U.S. is sending Ukraine, it is known the country has been sharing intelligence to help Ukraine’s fight against Russia.

NATO countries have begun sanctioning Belarus’ banks and other individuals due to them letting Russia use their country in its invasion of Ukraine.

Kremlin press secretary: Those criticizing war are not 'real' Russians
“A real Russian is not ashamed that he is Russian — and if he is ashamed, then he is not Russian and is not with us,” Peskov said, The Washington Post reported.

The comments have come as more than 13,000 Russians have been detained for protesting the war, OVD-Info, a protest monitoring group, has said.

Other Russians are leaving the country for Europe over their anger with the Russian government’s actions against Ukraine, according to The Post.

Russia has been leading a propaganda campaign in an attempt to convince citizens Russia rightfully invaded Ukraine, either to save the Ukrainian people or to prevent Ukraine from attacking Russia.

WHO told Ukraine to destroy pathogens in public health labs to avoid spills spreading disease: report
The World Health Organization (WHO) notified Ukrainian officials that it would be prudent to destroy dangerous pathogens in the country's public health laboratories to avoid “any potential spills” that could lead to disease spreading among the Ukrainian population, the WHO told Reuters on Thursday.

A number of public health laboratories in Ukraine, as in many other nations, have been researching high-threat pathogens, including COVID-19, in an effort to learn how treat and prevent them, the wire service reported.

The flood of Russian troops into Ukraine and the Russian military’s blockades of many Ukrainian cities have increased risks of pathogens spreading if laboratories are damaged, biosecurity experts say, per Reuters.

Ukrainian labs have received support from the WHO, along with the U.S. and the European Union, according to the wire service.

The WHO said in an email to Reuters that it has promoted security practices in Ukrainian labs for several years in an effort to prevent the “accidental or deliberate release of pathogens.”

“As part of this work, WHO has strongly recommended to the Ministry of Health in Ukraine and other responsible bodies to destroy high-threat pathogens to prevent any potential spills,” wrote the WHO.

The WHO did not say when it had made this recommendation, according to Reuters.

Russia is threatening to ABANDON an American astronaut in space aboard the International Space Station as retribution against Western sanctions against Russia.

Poeple complained when they found out the Chinese were being paid to do studies for you, now when you moved to new facilities in Europe, it is more of the same...

Studying pathogens not the same as weaponizing them... I was watching this piece the other night... a large chunk of the covid organism is a copyrighted chain that doesn't occur in nature by accident.