What's the Shortest Autoflower Strain worth Growing?

Lets say, purely for discussion purposes, that I were crazy enough to want to try a grow in an Xbox like this guy: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/475279-first-ever-xbox-360-grow.html

Or I wanted to grow in a shoebox.

So I'd want the smallest, but most potent plant possible. I mean if I'm only going to yield a few grams, I want the best stuff possible.

Anyone grown anything that's teensy-tinsy, but DANK? Is there anything like that out there?

Anyone have any opinions on the smallest/shortest autoflowers actually worth growing?

no idea but i do know the plant will only grow based of the light it has the4 amopunt of space plus air. so teq you can grow a plant in a shoe box just dont stress it at all if you can. or just go with a high sativa strian. i have a 90% and it grew to like 8 inches high lol. idk if this helps or not but i tried

st0wner said:

no idea but i do know the plant will only grow based of the light it has the4 amopunt of space plus air. so teq you can grow a plant in a shoe box just dont stress it at all if you can. or just go with a high sativa strian. i have a 90% and it grew to like 8 inches high lol. idk if this helps or not but i tried

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Well obviously, you can stunt the growth of any plant to some extent depending on how you grow it, but that's not really what my question is about.

Let me rephrase: Which strains, if any, are really short AND really strong?

As to specifics, in fact, underlighting plants usually causes them to stretch towards the light, so I don't think that's a good strategy for creating short plants.
In general MORE light yields shorter more compact plants due to lower internodal spacing.

Also, sativa strains tend to be long and lanky, stretching a lot during flowering.
Again, if you want something short and squat, pure indicas (or presumably indica/ruderalis hybrids) would be the way to go.

I don't know the answer to you question but a cool experiment would be to clone an auto at 3-4 weeks, just prior to flowering. The clone should grow right into the flowering stage and stay relatively small.

Jogro said:

Lets say, purely for discussion purposes, that I were crazy enough to want to try a grow in an Xbox like this guy: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/475279-first-ever-xbox-360-grow.html

Or I wanted to grow in a shoebox.

So I'd want the smallest, but most potent plant possible. I mean if I'm only going to yield a few grams, I want the best stuff possible.

Anyone grown anything that's teensy-tinsy, but DANK? Is there anything like that out there?

Anyone have any opinions on the smallest/shortest autoflowers actually worth growing?

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I did my first grow with "Short Ryder" from Nirvana seed co. They were pretty short and grow more outward then upward. A damn shame I don't catalog my grows or take to using journals... -always think the FBI is after me lulz-

La bella afrodita - delicious seeds. Indica heavy, well behaved stature, good smoke. I'm growing one right now in my journal if you'd like to see it compared to some other autos that have gotten a lot bigger (3ft X 3ft in one sativa heavy strain). I'm using 5 gallon smart pots but the bella has really good node spacing and has kept a short height while producing some seriously sticky nuggets. It should also be done in about 60 days. So pretty much a good deal all the way around.

cloning an auto flower plant while its budding wont work, in this situation anyways. i cloned a cola top and it grew into a full sized plant.

i've heard good things about "The 60 day wonder" a williams wonder cross

From my experience it wouldn't be worth the time and effort for one small plant. You're talking waiting possibly 3 months for a few grams of weed. That's ridiculous. I started three plants in a Rubbermaid and that wasn't cutting it so I threw down another $400 bucks and got a 400 cool tube with a grow tent, new soil and new beans. My tallest autoflower is Chronic Ryder: about 8 inches thus far with good lighting. If you were to consider anything I'd recommend a small Rubbermaid setup, one where you can grow at least two plants about a foot if necessary. You could pull close to or over an ounce with two good autos in a short space.

Llamamontana said:

I don't know the answer to you question but a cool experiment would be to clone an auto at 3-4 weeks, just prior to flowering. The clone should grow right into the flowering stage and stay relatively small.

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The experiment has been done already, and this is problematic.

The reason is that the entire life cycle of an autoflower, from seed to harvest, is typically only 8-9 weeks. Some are even shorter-lived than that.

Consequently, the plants tend NOT to respond well to pruning or transplanting, since they don't get a lot of time to recover from the shock.

Before your plant is big enough to take a cutting to clone, its got to be at least 3-4 weeks old. If you figure its going to take about 2 more weeks before said clone is rooted well enough to transplant, and at least another week for the clone to establish enough of a root system to really start to grow on top, well, now you've run down the clock. By the time your clone is ready to start really making buds, its at the end of its life cycle and about to die of old age.

Consequently you get almost no yield this way, and that's why trying to clone the ruderalis-based autoflower strains is largely a waste of time.

TheChodesman said:

From my experience it wouldn't be worth the time and effort for one small plant. You're talking waiting possibly 3 months for a few grams of weed. That's ridiculous.

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I said this was purely for discussion purposes, so lets discuss.

Typical autoflower strains take 8-9 weeks from seed to harvest, and some take less.

Waiting three months would be about right if you're include drying/curing time, but I don't see why that length of time would problematic (let alone "ridiculous"). You're going to need more or less the same amount of time to grow ANY strain, under almost any condition, and many grows take a LOT longer than that.

Also, you could start grow #2 right when grow #1 is being chopped (or sooner) meaning a harvest cycle of only 2 months (or less).

As to why anyone would to grow a plant this small, well, again for discussion purposes, consider it the ultimate "stealth" grow. If you lived in a dorm or small apartment you might not have a free closet available for growing, or even the space for a grow tent. In that sort of situation, something like a Rubbermaid sitting in the middle of your floor might look a little odd.

People grow in computer cases, desk drawers, stereo speakers, and other small chambers for this sort of reason, and I don't think that its necessarily "ridiculous" to do so.

As to yield, obviously if you're a serious smoker or medical user then granted, one tiny plant won't be enough for you.

But on the other hand, lets say you can yield 7 or 8 grams from a really good dwarf plant. I don't think that's an unreasonable yield expectation. If you're only an occasional medical or weekend type smoker, then a quarter ounce every two months might be plenty, *especially* if its truly top-shelf in terms of potency.

Even in that limited of a quantity, growing your own still may be more practical/safer than trying to score from a stranger, let alone less expensive.

im currently on my 8th week of easyryder and critical jack without feeding them under 400w hps and miracle grow organic soil(cheap ass grow i know). first grow and all ive fed them is water and lemon juice. the easyryder is roughly 7 inches tall lol but the bud is all the way up and around it so its jut a fat bunch of nuggage right now.. give it a try! under feed and give lots of light and pay attention to the green-ness of the weed and the firmness of the leaves. (general healthy look) just love your weed! low strength training would help, and you could also transport them to give em a lil shock. i transported mine into bigger pots. much bigger.

this thread may be dead by now but hey,

so with autos, for discussion purposes, under optimal conditions height is effectively only regulated by pot size.

iv grown autos in 2.5 litre pots (about 20cm tall) and they grew to about 20cm tall maybe a bit over, iv also grown them in bigger pots about a ft and a half tall, plants got about 2 feet tall. my friend grew in a monster of a pot and got his diesel ryder to about 2 meters tall.

so if you just stick to a small pot you should end up with small plants.

so you just wanna pick a really potent strain (diesel ryder, queen seeds royalbluematic for example) stick em in small pots and your sorted.

hope that helps

I started mine in 1/2 gallon pots and they're short as fuck, about 8 1/2 inches at 5 1/2 weeks. Moved up to 1 gallon this round.

TheChodesman said:

I started mine in 1/2 gallon pots and they're short as fuck, about 8 1/2 inches at 5 1/2 weeks. Moved up to 1 gallon this round.

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I like how your chronic ryder and royal dwarf stayed so short bro. Thanks for making this journal, it definitely helped me decide what I should get. I hope you continue with the journal as well with the other strains.

Edit: This is what happens when you have multiple tabs running at once. I was on this thread but clicked on your link and posted on the wrong thread, haha!

i thought the reason ppl grew cannabis was to get the most "Medicine" off the plants. not the other way around. From my expirience plants like to grow nice,big N bushy. So what im trying to say is there is no such things as small plants. Closest thing is Auto's. and they arent even that small. mines right now are 16-20 inches tall. If you were to grow and try to keep the plant small and closed in something that doesnt have space, you will be just wasting ur time. if u dont have alot of room grow one plant. and make that one plant grow nice an ripe.