Will You Take The Vaccine?

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schuylaar

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DeSantis downplays increase in COVID-19 cases
“It’s a seasonal virus and this is the seasonal pattern it follows in the Sun Belt states,” DeSantis told reporters at a press conference. He also said that he expects COVID-19 cases to decline next month.

DeSantis’s remarks came as new cases of COVID-19 are on the rise, driven by the spread of the more infectious Delta variant. Florida has emerged as the epicenter of the recent surge, with about one in five new cases nationwide coming from the Sunshine State.

On Monday, DeSantis blamed public health experts for spreading what he called “misinformation” and offering “bad advice” with regard to the pandemic. He also suggested that the same experts were undermining their own vaccine initiatives by talking down to people who have yet to get one of the three approved COVID-19 vaccines.

“I do not agree with some of these people, some of these quote unquote experts who lambast people and criticize them or say they’re stupid or something,” DeSantis said. “That’s not the way to reach folks, okay?”

“I do not agree with some of these people, some of these quote unquote experts who lambast people and criticize them or say they’re stupid or something,” DeSantis said. “That’s not the way to reach folks, okay?”

Despite his criticism of public health officials on Monday, DeSantis also touted the efficacy of the available COVID-19 vaccines, saying that they have proved effective at preventing severe illness and hospitalization.

"Understand, a positive test is not a clinical diagnosis of illness and so if you're vaccinated and you test positive but you don't get sick, well the name of the game is to keep people out of the hospital,” he said.

Sucking and blowing at the same time.
wait until the Seasonal 4th QTR.
 

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Newsmax CEO: Biden 'should be applauded' for vaccine efforts
Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy penned an editorial on the conservative network's website on Tuesday praising President Biden for how he has handled the coronavirus pandemic and urging Americans to get vaccinated against the virus.

"Six months into his administration, President Joe Biden should be applauded for making a huge dent in the COVID pandemic," Ruddy wrote. "He inherited an effective vaccine from President Donald Trump, took it into his arms, and ran with it."

Ruddy noted Biden's relatively steady approval numbers during the pandemic, despite what he called "a bitter election and a polarizing political environment."

"I heard that in the early days of the administration, Biden himself was on a call discussing the rollout of the vaccine with some at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and others, wanting delays in the rollout," Ruddy wrote of Biden's effort to hit the ground running with an aggressive vaccine rollout program. "Biden himself would have none of it. He took charge in the call and said there would be no delay."

The Newsmax head also applauded Biden for relaxing mask mandates for vaccinated Americans and pushing back on the idea of mandatory vaccinations.

Ruddy is vaccinated himself, he said in Tuesday's editorial, writing, "the bottom line: The vaccines are safe and effective."

The network chief executive's endorsement comes just days after at least one host on the network questioned the necessity of vaccines, prompting the company to issue a statement in favor of inoculation and distancing itself from the host's assertions.

"At Newsmax, we have strongly advocated for the public to be vaccinated. The many medical experts who have appeared on our network have been near unanimous in support of the vaccine," Ruddy said. "I myself have gotten the Pfizer vaccine. There’s no question in my mind, countless lives would have been saved if the vaccine was available earlier."

"Biden could have distanced himself from the vaccine since his political nemesis had been key for its creation," he concluded. "Instead, Biden unravels Trump’s achievements in those areas at his political peril. For the moment, we as Americans can applaud President Biden’s success with the vaccine rollout. It is saving countless lives — and that is a good thing."

That is it! The unwashed will now be going over to OAN.
 

schuylaar

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Newsmax CEO: Biden 'should be applauded' for vaccine efforts
Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy penned an editorial on the conservative network's website on Tuesday praising President Biden for how he has handled the coronavirus pandemic and urging Americans to get vaccinated against the virus.

"Six months into his administration, President Joe Biden should be applauded for making a huge dent in the COVID pandemic," Ruddy wrote. "He inherited an effective vaccine from President Donald Trump, took it into his arms, and ran with it."

Ruddy noted Biden's relatively steady approval numbers during the pandemic, despite what he called "a bitter election and a polarizing political environment."

"I heard that in the early days of the administration, Biden himself was on a call discussing the rollout of the vaccine with some at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and others, wanting delays in the rollout," Ruddy wrote of Biden's effort to hit the ground running with an aggressive vaccine rollout program. "Biden himself would have none of it. He took charge in the call and said there would be no delay."

The Newsmax head also applauded Biden for relaxing mask mandates for vaccinated Americans and pushing back on the idea of mandatory vaccinations.

Ruddy is vaccinated himself, he said in Tuesday's editorial, writing, "the bottom line: The vaccines are safe and effective."

The network chief executive's endorsement comes just days after at least one host on the network questioned the necessity of vaccines, prompting the company to issue a statement in favor of inoculation and distancing itself from the host's assertions.

"At Newsmax, we have strongly advocated for the public to be vaccinated. The many medical experts who have appeared on our network have been near unanimous in support of the vaccine," Ruddy said. "I myself have gotten the Pfizer vaccine. There’s no question in my mind, countless lives would have been saved if the vaccine was available earlier."

"Biden could have distanced himself from the vaccine since his political nemesis had been key for its creation," he concluded. "Instead, Biden unravels Trump’s achievements in those areas at his political peril. For the moment, we as Americans can applaud President Biden’s success with the vaccine rollout. It is saving countless lives — and that is a good thing."

That is it! The unwashed will now be going over to OAN.
'for the moment':lol:
 

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Ruddy: Biden's Good Job on the Vaccine
As a journalist, I believe in giving credit where it’s due. Six months into his administration, President Joe Biden should be applauded for making a huge dent in the COVID pandemic. He inherited an effective vaccine from President Donald Trump, took it into his arms, and ran with it.

The success of this approach has been obvious. Serious deaths and hospitalizations (the most important COVID data) have collapsed.
Meanwhile, Biden’s approval numbers have been high, despite a bitter election and a polarizing political environment.
The recent Real Clear Politics average has him with a 52 percent job approval, against a disapproval of 43 percent – a nine-point positive spread.
And the IBD/TIPP poll, one of the most accurate of the 2020 election, has him even better with 54 percent approval – a 16-point positive spread against his 38 percent disapproval.

I personally like what Biden has done with the vaccine. He started by embracing the Trump-backed vaccine.
I heard that in the early days of the administration, Biden himself was on a call discussing the rollout of the vaccine with some at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and others, wanting delays in the rollout.
Biden himself would have none of it. He took charge in the call and said there would be no delay.

After that, Biden pushed for relaxed mask and social distancing guidelines from the CDC, to the consternation of "lockdown" Democratic governors like Andrew Cuomo of New York and Gavin Newsom of California.
And rightfully, his White House has pushed back against calls for mandatory vaccinations (which has little public support; even the major teachers unions oppose such a move).

The bottom line: The vaccines are safe and effective. More than 3.6 billion shots have been given worldwide, and some 338 million here in the U.S. alone. Meanwhile, deaths caused by the coronavirus have fallen to record lows, with almost negligible side effects to those vaccinated. At Newsmax, we have strongly advocated for the public to be vaccinated.

The many medical experts who have appeared on our network have been near unanimous in support of the vaccine.
I myself have gotten the Pfizer vaccine. There’s no question in my mind, countless lives would have been saved if the vaccine was available earlier.

So far, Biden’s success as president is all about COVID – not only with the vaccine, but also his push for ample and popular stimulus packages. His success is also about Donald Trump. Biden could have distanced himself from the vaccine since his political nemesis had been key for its creation.


Instead, Biden did the right thing and embraced Trump’s work – and built upon it to the betterment of the country. He also benefited politically. When we have witnessed Biden fumble, it usually has to do with him rejecting Trump’s work. We have seen this with Biden’s policies at the border. By rejecting Trump’s border security policies, Biden has created chaos there.

Biden would be wise to build upon Trump’s positive achievements in rebuilding the military and his visionary concept of a Space Force; his strong advocacy of fair-trade deals with China and others, a policy that resonated with many Democratic union workers; Trump’s unbelievable success in creating a new Arab-Israeli paradigm as a united front against Iran; and his sweeping tax and deregulation policies that have spurred strong economic growth.

Instead, Biden unravels Trump’s achievements in those areas at his political peril. For the moment, we as Americans can applaud President Biden’s success with the vaccine rollout. It is saving countless lives – and that is a good thing.

I guess they know some of the unwashed would not take this well, comments are turned of for this article.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ruddy: Biden's Good Job on the Vaccine
As a journalist, I believe in giving credit where it’s due. Six months into his administration, President Joe Biden should be applauded for making a huge dent in the COVID pandemic. He inherited an effective vaccine from President Donald Trump, took it into his arms, and ran with it.

The success of this approach has been obvious. Serious deaths and hospitalizations (the most important COVID data) have collapsed.
Meanwhile, Biden’s approval numbers have been high, despite a bitter election and a polarizing political environment.
The recent Real Clear Politics average has him with a 52 percent job approval, against a disapproval of 43 percent – a nine-point positive spread.
And the IBD/TIPP poll, one of the most accurate of the 2020 election, has him even better with 54 percent approval – a 16-point positive spread against his 38 percent disapproval.

I personally like what Biden has done with the vaccine. He started by embracing the Trump-backed vaccine.
I heard that in the early days of the administration, Biden himself was on a call discussing the rollout of the vaccine with some at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and others, wanting delays in the rollout.
Biden himself would have none of it. He took charge in the call and said there would be no delay.

After that, Biden pushed for relaxed mask and social distancing guidelines from the CDC, to the consternation of "lockdown" Democratic governors like Andrew Cuomo of New York and Gavin Newsom of California.
And rightfully, his White House has pushed back against calls for mandatory vaccinations (which has little public support; even the major teachers unions oppose such a move).

The bottom line: The vaccines are safe and effective. More than 3.6 billion shots have been given worldwide, and some 338 million here in the U.S. alone. Meanwhile, deaths caused by the coronavirus have fallen to record lows, with almost negligible side effects to those vaccinated. At Newsmax, we have strongly advocated for the public to be vaccinated.

The many medical experts who have appeared on our network have been near unanimous in support of the vaccine.
I myself have gotten the Pfizer vaccine. There’s no question in my mind, countless lives would have been saved if the vaccine was available earlier.

So far, Biden’s success as president is all about COVID – not only with the vaccine, but also his push for ample and popular stimulus packages. His success is also about Donald Trump. Biden could have distanced himself from the vaccine since his political nemesis had been key for its creation.


Instead, Biden did the right thing and embraced Trump’s work – and built upon it to the betterment of the country. He also benefited politically. When we have witnessed Biden fumble, it usually has to do with him rejecting Trump’s work. We have seen this with Biden’s policies at the border. By rejecting Trump’s border security policies, Biden has created chaos there.

Biden would be wise to build upon Trump’s positive achievements in rebuilding the military and his visionary concept of a Space Force; his strong advocacy of fair-trade deals with China and others, a policy that resonated with many Democratic union workers; Trump’s unbelievable success in creating a new Arab-Israeli paradigm as a united front against Iran; and his sweeping tax and deregulation policies that have spurred strong economic growth.

Instead, Biden unravels Trump’s achievements in those areas at his political peril. For the moment, we as Americans can applaud President Biden’s success with the vaccine rollout. It is saving countless lives – and that is a good thing.

I guess they know some of the unwashed would not take this well, comments are turned of for this article.
It looks like he's attempting the physically impossible feat of sucking two arses at the same time!
 

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Vaccine fears fuel exodus from Winkler area
Low German-speaking Mennonite families fleeing jobs, homes for Mexico, Central America nations

Prompted both by fears of safety of the vaccines and worries that governments will soon require them to show proof of vaccination to travel, more than 100 Low German-speaking Mennonites from southern Manitoba have left the country in the last three months, with more likely to follow, a Winkler immigration consultant said.

"In the last three months, people are scattering out of Manitoba," said Bolivian-born Mary Friesen, who has lived in Canada for 21 years. "They are trying to get out of Manitoba as fast as possible."

Friesen knows of 18 families, most with at least four children, who have moved to Mexico, Paraguay or Bolivia from Winkler or the nearby municipalities of Stanley and Rhineland.

Recent government campaigns encouraging people to get vaccinated against COVID-19 have prompted the exodus, says Friesen, with people leaving jobs and homes behind in order to cross the border before proof of vaccination becomes a requirement of travel.

"The reason to leave is they are afraid of the vaccine itself and they don’t want the vaccine," she says.

Conservative Low German-speaking people — known as Dietsche (pronounced Deet-sha) — make up as much as one-quarter of the estimated 25,000 people living in Winkler and the surrounding Stanley municipality, says a longtime community worker with that population.

"You can’t throw a stone without hitting someone with a connection to Mexico," said Tina Fehr Kehler, estimating 75 families move to the area annually. Kehler says this is not necessarily a homogenous group of Mennonites who all attend the same church, but a looser association of people who have roots in Latin America and often are dual citizens of Canada and countries such as Mexico, Paraguay, Bolivia or Belize.

Often characterized as transnational Mennonites, this is a population that already moves frequently between Canada and Latin American countries for economic or family reasons, but pandemic restrictions in Canada may have made life here untenable for some, said Ben Nobbs-Thiessen, chair of Mennonite Studies at the University of Winnipeg.

"We’ve all lived through a year of intense restrictions," he said, adding that public-health measures may be less in places like Mexico or Bolivia, where many Mennonites live in colonies away from the rest of the population. "The restrictions don’t mean the same thing in a colony in Bolivia."
In Manitoba, some Dietsche are identifiable by their appearance, with women generally wearing black kerchiefs, below-the-knee dark floral patterned dresses and socks with sandals. Men often wear Western style shirts, jeans and cowboy boots. Kehler said this group would minimize contact with the broader society, take direction from their church leaders and avoid higher education.

Kehler said people in this group also have a stoic perspective, resulting in less fear of becoming sick or even dying from COVID-19, if they accept the premise that it exists, said Kehler. "Suffering is part of life, that’s just accepted," she said.

Instead of viewing the vaccine as a life-saving public health measure, Friesen said many Dietsche see the government vaccination efforts as a means to control them. They have a complicated relationship with government that goes back decades, with the Dietsche willing to file income tax returns in order to collect child tax benefits and GST rebates but less willing to comply with other duties of citizenship, she said.

"They want some things from the government if it benefits them. When it comes to voting or vaccination or the things the government wants them to do, then it’s a no," said Friesen. The distrust of government among the Dietsche goes back at least a century, says Selkirk lawyer Blake Hamm, who assists them with legal issues around resettlement in Canada.

Many of their ancestors moved to southern Manitoba from Ukraine in large Mennonite migrations beginning in 1874. Nearly five decades later, after the federal government reneged on their promise to allow Mennonites to control their children’s education, thousands of Low German speaking Mennonites moved to Mexico or South America. The following generations kept up contacts across the borders and maintained their Canadian citizenship, giving them the freedom to move back to Canada over the last few decades, said Hamm.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/faith/vaccine-fears-fuel-exodus-from-winkler-area-574868352.html

"There’s this relatively recent history of less than 100 years of people persecuted in Canada by different levels of government in Canada," says Hamm, referring to fines and confiscated farm equipment when Mennonites didn’t comply with the new education requirement.

Kehler suggested low vaccine uptake in this particular community is more of an issue of trust rather than language or science. Although suspicious of outsiders, she said most people in the Dietsche community own cellphones and share information through What’sApp, where they circulate videos perpetuating their biases.

"Right now there’s more fear about the vaccine (and) that it’s more dangerous than COVID-19," Kehler said of rumours circulating that vaccinated people will die in two or three years.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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I imagine Donald was on this guy like stink on shit every time he went into Trump tower. If they have his phone bugged with a warrant, there might be some interesting phone conversations recorded, these arrogant fucks are too stupid to know better. I'm sure Donald has been spending some "quality time" with his bean counter twisting his arm, browbeating him to death, threatening him and pumping him for information.

I imagine the Trump's are gonna have trouble even finding the secret bank accounts, since the hired help is talking to grand juries, they will have to juggle things themselves and there are a lot of balls flying around in the air.

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Republicans divided on how hard to push vaccines
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has been making the case for months that the vaccine works and will help prevent hospitalizations and save lives.
But many rank-and-file Republicans continue to show apathy toward the national vaccine push, downplaying the severity of the coronavirus spike and arguing that the decision is a personal choice for individuals and families.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.) has tested positive for COVID-19 twice during the past year. He believes the virus is something that Americans just need to live with.
“This is something we deal with in our lives on a daily basis; ever since I’ve been born, there’s sicknesses, there’s flu, there’s different diseases,” Loudermilk, 57, told The Hill on Tuesday. “I have probably a much higher chance, because of my age and where I live, just the demographics of the South and the way people eat, of having some kind of heart disease as much as I do from getting COVID.”

“But it’s a personal responsibility issue, and these people are willing to take that risk because they think that, ‘Look, there’s a greater chance if I get COVID of just getting through it.’ The majority of people don’t end up in the hospital,” he said.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a former House member often mentioned as a possible 2024 GOP presidential candidate, dismissed the uptick in cases in his home state, calling it a “seasonal virus” that will subside next month.

House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) said he received his first Pfizer shot on Sunday, even though federal lawmakers have had access to the vaccine since December. The No. 2 GOP leader told his local newspaper that “it was a good time to do it” after seeing the aggressiveness of the delta variant and a spike in new cases; he said he had tested positive for antibodies months ago and believed he had some immunity from the coronavirus.
“I’ve been vaccinated, many of my colleagues have been vaccinated, and the vaccine is safe, effective and it’s widely available all across the United States of America for anybody who wants to get it,” Scalise told reporters in the Capitol on Tuesday.

Other senior Republicans — including some in deep-red Trump country — are taking a much more aggressive approach in urging their constituents to get a shot, even as they show signs of frustration at the situation.

“I’m intensely worried about it. I see the increase in infections and hospitalizations in Oklahoma, as well as the statistics across the country. My neighbors have to get vaccinated,” said Rep. Frank Lucas (Okla.), the top Republican on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.
“I think there’s an inherent suspicion out there about everything that involves government at any level, and this is the result of that. And whether you’re a very cautious Republican or anybody else for that matter, we all have to be vaccinated,” Lucas added. “Who would want to have a disease when there’s the ability to take a vaccination and dramatically increase the ability to avoid it?”
 

schuylaar

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you have to ask yourself..why the sudden change this week? it's like they're all saying to get the shot now..must've been the FOX narrative that changed it- they all went and got shots, now they have to tell their listeners.

Rupert.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you have to ask yourself..why the sudden change this week? it's like they're all saying to get the shot now..must've been the FOX narrative that changed it- they all went and got shots, now they have to tell their listeners.

Rupert.
They know what's coming and that it will get their base, especially in the red low vax states that are anti mask and lockdown. Nothing changes hearts and minds like a near death experience and there are a few Trumpers about to take that ride, we (and they) only need to worry about the survivors, since the dead can't vote.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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you have to ask yourself..why the sudden change this week? it's like they're all saying to get the shot now..must've been the FOX narrative that changed it- they all went and got shots, now they have to tell their listeners.

Rupert.
They are about to be hammered by reality in the form of the very contagious delta variant. The experts have been warning about this for awhile now and these morons are catching on as the facts on the ground are coming in, delta now accounts for nearly 90% of new cases in America and it didn't take long to happen at all.
 

schuylaar

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They know what's coming and that it will get their base, especially in the red low vax states that are anti mask and lockdown. Nothing changes hearts and minds like a near death experience and there are a few Trumpers about to take that ride, we (and they) only need to worry about the survivors, since the dead can't vote.
it's too late.
 

schuylaar

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They are about to be hammered by reality in the form of the very contagious delta variant. The experts have been warning about this for awhile now and these morons are catching on as the facts on the ground are coming in, delta now accounts for nearly 90% of new cases in America and it didn't take long to happen at all.
it's still too late.
 

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Enough of them have gone to the hospital and still have not believed they had the virus because they did not want to believe. Just wait until September when kids are back in school. A seasonal thing like DeSantis thinks. But for a different reason. Mind you, there are a lot of people vaccinated in Florida, probably most of the retirees.
 

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'I'm sorry, but it's too late': Doctor says hospitalized COVID-19 patients asking for vaccines
An Alabama doctor is opening up about her experience treating those hospitalized for the coronavirus amid a resurgence of cases, saying dying patients are asking her to vaccinate them.

“One of the last things they do before they're intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I'm sorry, but it's too late," Brytney Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, wrote on Facebook this week.

“A few days later when I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same,” Cobia added.

Alabama has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country, with only 33 percent of its population fully vaccinated, according to data from John Hopkins University.

Cobia listed all the different reasons she heard from patients and their families about why they didn’t get the vaccine.

“They cry. And they tell me they didn't know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn't get as sick. They thought it was 'just the flu'. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can't,” she said.

“You kind of go into it thinking, ‘Okay, I’m not going to feel bad for this person, because they make their own choice,’” Cobia said. “But then you actually see them, you see them face to face, and it really changes your whole perspective, because they’re still just a person that thinks that they made the best decision that they could with the information that they have, and all the misinformation that’s out there.”
 

nuskool89

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They know what's coming and that it will get their base, especially in the red low vax states that are anti mask and lockdown. Nothing changes hearts and minds like a near death experience and there are a few Trumpers about to take that ride, we (and they) only need to worry about the survivors, since the dead can't vote.

They are about to be hammered by reality in the form of the very contagious delta variant. The experts have been warning about this for awhile now and these morons are catching on as the facts on the ground are coming in, delta now accounts for nearly 90% of new cases in America and it didn't take long to happen at all.
You seem to have all the answers. Just curious if the “red low vax states” are seeing any difference in numbers and deaths compared to “blue utopia” like California and New York?

Are there any numbers pointing to a second wave of deaths with the delta variant? As the virus mutates, does the fact it has become more contagious equate to it being more virulent?

this is the website I’ve used to see cases and deaths since last summer, and even though there seems to be an uptick in new cases, deaths are still extremely low. Mind you, per their numbers, covid killed just 2% of the 35 million + infected population in the US. (Although I would argue the actual infection rate has been much higher than reported numbers, since people without symptoms may not have been tested)


the way you come off is you are sort of wishing death upon people who think differently than you politically. Hopefully not though (not that politics are the end all to those vaccinated and those that are not)
 
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