Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The unvaxxed do fill hospitals, are more contagious and indirectly harm others who need hospital services. It is at it's core a fear driven antisocial act of largely ignorant people. Soon the point will be moot, the unvaxxed will be immunized with omicron, they say it's mild, but it's actually a gamble. The benefits of vaccines and boosters are evident in the statistics and while they might not prevent all illness and wane with time, they can attenuate it and prevent severe outcomes in many people.

This pandemic appears to be going the way of previous ones, the virus has mutated into a more contagious and less virulent strain that has displaced other more virulent strains. That doesn't mean it can't seriously sicken and kill many people, it just means it appears to have lower hospitalization and mortality rates, so far.

Being unvaccinated is a bad idea and decision driven by disinformation and irrational fear, try and defend it if you want, but it's a losing proposition. You don't really have a moral or ethical leg to stand on, neither do you have a logical one. The unvaxxed appear to have gotten lucky with omicron and we in general are lucky too, it could have been even more virulent than delta and just as contagious as omicron.
Governor Jim Justice (R-WV) was basically on his deathbed yesterday he had the shot and booster and thanked that for keeping him alive. today, after receiving Monoclonol Antibody treatment received yesterday he's a new man!

Q: why doesn't everybody receive this?

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice Says He Is Feeling Better After Covid-19
‘Without question, the fact that I chose to get vaccinated and boosted saved my life,’


well yeah kinda..it was really the Monoclonal.
 

DurumGallico

Well-Known Member
Governor Jim Justice (R-WV) was basically on his deathbed yesterday he had the shot and booster and thanked that for keeping him alive. today, after receiving Monoclonol Antibody treatment received yesterday he's a new man!

Q: why doesn't everybody receive this?

West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice Says He Is Feeling Better After Covid-19
‘Without question, the fact that I chose to get vaccinated and boosted saved my life,’


well yeah kinda..it was really the Monoclonal.
Yes, an old fat dude like him should definitely be vaccinated since he's the primary target of covid.
 

Quintana

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Anti-Vaxxers (which tend to be conservatives) are 20x more likely to die of a Covid infection. In the US almost 900,000 have died so far. That can have a lot of consequences for an election.
I still can’t quite understand the logic behind Fox News and the righties sending misinformation to their voting base who are dying at a higher rate from being unvaccinated.

We’ve been getting polio vaccines for years and requiring them before kids start school. No one ever said a peep and polio is all but gone now.

The only thing that has changed is that we had a big orange buffoon in the White House who politicized science because he was too stupid to understand it. His ignorance has rippled across the world and now we’re on our 3rd year of dealing with this garbage.

The world is being held hostage by the lowest 30%. Cool.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
no, it doesn't. Not everyone is threatened the same by covid it's an obvious fact, not everyone needs the vaccine the same way. Old fat boomers definitely need vaccine, young healthy people definitely don't. Protect the weak and let the others do what they want.



doesn't seem that appetizing.
all that marbling over an open pit; the crispy cracklings.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Anti-Vaxxers (which tend to be conservatives) are 20x more likely to die of a Covid infection. In the US almost 900,000 have died so far. That can have a lot of consequences for an election.
I still can’t quite understand the logic behind Fox News and the righties sending misinformation to their voting base who are dying at a higher rate from being unvaccinated.

We’ve been getting polio vaccines for years and requiring them before kids start school. No one ever said a peep and polio is all but gone now.

The only thing that has changed is that we had a big orange buffoon in the White House who politicized science because he was too stupid to understand it. His ignorance has rippled across the world and now we’re on our 3rd year of dealing with this garbage.

The world is being held hostage by the lowest 30%. Cool.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/

it looks like democrats and republicans are running close to even numbers. so, say by now 1,000,000 have died to covid. if half of those people were voters, statictically, 400,000 of them would have been republicans and 100,000 would have been democrats, so that's a 300,000 loss for republicans in real time. if those 300,000 dead republican voters were from strategic states, that could cost them severely, the house and senate majorities they want and need so badly may evaporate, and they may lose enough seats that we can finally kick sinema and manchin to the curb and walk over their political corpses on the way to the promised land, halleluah...
 
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CatHedral

Well-Known Member
So you base your restrictive policy on unproven risky assumptions. With that lie as your basis, the rest of your word soup falls apart.

"Dissenters" are not the reason why the spread is still there. Low vaccine protection against it. Even pfizer CEO admits it. Without speaking about protection against hospitalization that's only "reasonable".

"“The hope is that we will achieve something that will have way, way better protection particularly against infections, because the protection against the hospitalizations and the severe disease — it is reasonable right now, with the current vaccines as long as you are having let’s say the third dose,” Bourla said."


And you forget all the reasonable reasons why you should avoid massive and repetitive vaccination. far right propaganda cherry picking bullshit ? Say that to WHO and EMA so.

While protecting weak and let others decide is a way more proportionate and "reasonable" response, speaking like the other crazy pfizer ceo conspirazy dude saying vaccine don't protect really well against transmission
First sentence: proven unrisky assumptions.

Without the damned dissenters, we would be in MUCH better shape. You dismiss the inconvenient fact that any of the three vaccines used stateside greatly reduces morbidity and mortality. You have complete contempt for healthcare workers.

We are all weak in the face of the pandemic. Your criterion is a distinction without a difference.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
Yes, just like they said for astrazeneca and jensens, now banned of multiple countries, not risk at all it's proven just get it. three months later oops after all maybe not please don't use it. proven unrisky assumption.

And with better sanitary response, true financial support on health care, we would be also in much better shape. My gov. closed 7000 hospital beds since the beginning of the pandemic, fired thousands health workers because of their vaccinal status.
You're again making an assumption and not basing your point on facts, we don't know how much vaccine impacted spreading, and from what we know it' s not that much. If we went from 90 to 100% vaccinated there will still be spreading and hospitalizations and deaths. Don't blame the unvaccinated blame the disease.
The main thing you won't accept but remains true, not every one needs vaccine, you can spread the disease even fully vaccinated, no reasonable reason and totally unproportionate to even think about massive and repetitive vaccination.

*but yeah if you're old and fat please don't help filling icus and get your three doses please.
18% unvaccinated, 40% of hospital admissions, 40% of ICU admissions, 77.8% of deaths.
 
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