WTF am I doing wrong?

Ulf

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Two 100W (draw) and a recently added 150W HPS.
Battling humidity... I can't get it above 30% (currently 21%). Running a warm mist humidifier outside the tent and a 5 gallon bucket with towel inside.
It's miracle grow (yeah.... I know)
Been watering when the soil is dry and inch or so deep.
Temperature was staying around 72° with lights on, and now I'm sitting at 82° with the added HPS.
The plant on the left is one day older than the plant on the left, and the little guy is 10 days old. The two are about three weeks.
Been watering with tap water. I haven't been adjust sting pH because of what people say in here. I'm going to start dialing it down next waterings because I feel I should. Tap pH is 7.5, 45 ppm.
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Ulf

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Everything you typed. Improve on. It's not easy to grow cannabis in a synthetic environment.

Fine tune it. Until you get it right.
Gotcha. Thank you for the input. I wish I could grow outside, but...

I added the HPS because I believe it will add what the white LEDs can't provide in a lets-try-this because of the way big girl's behaving.

The Miracle grow will not be used in transplant.

I should add that I started the two in the pots they are in.

I screw up every grow (5 so far). I got ALOT to learn.
 

Ulf

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"It's miracle grow (yeah.... I know)"

You don't know yet.
Wow. Thanks. I put it that way because miracle grow isn't going to make my big plant look the way it does. I know the popular opinion of the crap but I used it. When/if I transplant, I will put it in something better.
 

Jahfarmer95

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Gotcha. Thank you for the input. I wish I could grow outside, but...

I added the HPS because I believe it will add what the white LEDs can't provide in a lets-try-this because of the way big girl's behaving.

The Miracle grow will not be used in transplant.

I should add that I started the two in the pots they are in.

I screw up every grow (5 so far). I got ALOT to learn.
youtube bro I learnt a lot
 

Oldreefer

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When i first started growing, everything was very hush hush and stealth was so necessary...hell, ya got 'noided buying miracle grow at walmart!
That being said, for years, i used MG and it taught me watering. Your finger stick moisture check is your first and probably worse habit. MG need a bit more perlite, perhaps 15-20% to help drainage.
MG IS a viable medium but is not very first time user friendly especially an impatient one.
 

Lagged

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When i first started growing, everything was very hush hush and stealth was so necessary...hell, ya got 'noided buying miracle grow at walmart!
That being said, for years, i used MG and it taught me watering. Your finger stick moisture check is your first and probably worse habit. MG need a bit more perlite, perhaps 15-20% to help drainage.
MG IS a viable medium but is not very first time user friendly especially an impatient one.
What's wrong with the good ol' finger check?
 

Killaki

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Two 100W (draw) and a recently added 150W HPS.
Battling humidity... I can't get it above 30% (currently 21%). Running a warm mist humidifier outside the tent and a 5 gallon bucket with towel inside.
It's miracle grow (yeah.... I know)
Been watering when the soil is dry and inch or so deep.
Temperature was staying around 72° with lights on, and now I'm sitting at 82° with the added HPS.
The plant on the left is one day older than the plant on the left, and the little guy is 10 days old. The two are about three weeks.
Been watering with tap water. I haven't been adjust sting pH because of what people say in here. I'm going to start dialing it down next waterings because I feel I should. Tap pH is 7.5, 45 ppm.
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Hello! Nice little setup! I have some questions for starters. 1-Do you let the soil dry out completely?
2-what variety of miracle grow soil is it exactly? 3-do you use the water as is straight from the tap right away?4- Do you water till run off or just a little bit at a time? 5-Are you using any nutrients?
 

Ulf

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When i first started growing, everything was very hush hush and stealth was so necessary...hell, ya got 'noided buying miracle grow at walmart!
That being said, for years, i used MG and it taught me watering. Your finger stick moisture check is your first and probably worse habit. MG need a bit more perlite, perhaps 15-20% to help drainage.
MG IS a viable medium but is not very first time user friendly especially an impatient one.
Thanks. I have roughly 25% perlite mixed in.
My first time I used MG. I waited until the containers felt dry. I just thought (since I see it said so much) I'd to the finger check.
 

Ulf

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youtube bro I learnt a lot
That's what made me try starting in one gallon air pots and watering the way I saw a dude doing it. His looked good, but my one suffered from about 1.5 weeks until now. The other just won't grow.
 

Ulf

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the plants in the pictures look fine all things considered. keep on doing what your doin man
The big one (the strain is The Force which I'm obviously not very wise in) just has those funky leaves that look overwatered and the tips are folded and they're cupping up.
The other (Shock Trauma) just isn't growing.
 

Ulf

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Hello! Nice little setup! I have some questions for starters. 1-Do you let the soil dry out completely?
2-what variety of miracle grow soil is it exactly? 3-do you use the water as is straight from the tap right away?4- Do you water till run off or just a little bit at a time? 5-Are you using any nutrients?
1- I haven't been. I was trying the first knuckle approach.
2- It's the yellow bag.
3- I let it sit out for at least two days. I stir it every time I see bubbles attached to the bottle.
4. I water with a sprayer until I see water starting to come out of the bottom.
5. No. I have the flora trio on deck for flower.
 

Killaki

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1- I haven't been. I was trying the first knuckle approach.
2- It's the yellow bag.
3- I let it sit out for at least two days. I stir it every time I see bubbles attached to the bottle.
4. I water with a sprayer until I see water starting to come out of the bottom.
5. No. I have the flora trio on deck for flower.
Is this the mg? When you sit the water out is it in the sun? What's the pH of the water out the bottom? Good to hear your not feeding nutes yet. How close is your light?
 

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Mcwhippin420

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Apmost looks like under / over watering with the droop and the curved leafs could be heat stress first guesses , only looked at pic for few seconds tho hah
Well light looks spaced so jk on heat stress unless its just a hot setup for some reason.
 

Killaki

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I apologise for being away. Kind of a busy guy, seems you are as well so I'm sure you understand. I'll just cut to the chase; if that is the soil you have it's a slow feed soil and will slowly kill your plants with over feed. If not I'd check the pH of the medium by testing run off, if you're already doing that then you know... The sun helps with the chlorine in tap water so there's that if you're not already. Also the one looks dry and or kissed by the light. Do you let the top of the soil get BONE dry? Cuz don't. Finger is fine but it's only good if you know what you're actually looking for...
Like others said... There's a lot to this and I don't know your grow. I need the info to help.
 

Severed Tongue

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I'm using Miracle-Gro, I use the blue bag one, "moisture control." No problems at all with it.

I use fabric pots and bottom watering, which Leads to the top half of my pots being "bone dry", plants don't care one bit, because the roots are all in the bottom half, kinda funny cause I keep seeing people say this is bad... my experience is the total opposite... I just read the plants.

Also using Miracle-Gro plant food 24-8-16 in veg and bloom 15-30-15 in flower. Been told this is wrong too, but my plants say otherwise, they are happy and the two mothers in veg require super cropping regularly to keep em in check. The one flowering is 6 weeks in... no complaints.

Funny thing... I searched it all up when I was starting out, right away you see lots of posts of users saying Miracle-Gro is bad or will kill your plants... but they never have any supporting data, just regurgitate that it's slow release nutes .... omg... the horror.., which means it's just opinion, because there are also lots of users using it with no issues, myself included. I have supporting data, big beautiful plants, and lots of pictures.

The only problem with it? ... it has bugs, Mostly fungus gnats. Easily defeated with my bottom watering and fabric pots.

I learned from reading thousands of posts on this site, and other sites, watching hours and hours of YouTube from growers, and of course just by "reading" the plants.

I also use MarsHydro lights... again, a quick search has lots saying they are junk, and lots saying they are good...so who's right? ..... my plants are doing just fine, that's how I'll judge it.

Let me present a question
- do you have a commercial grade kitchen, that you require for daily usage which includes a freezer and cooler, line cook station, deep fryer, high pressure dishwasher? Do you meal prep every moring for the entire day? How about bathroom with commercial grade urinals and sinks/faucets? How about your backyard? Do you own commercial grade ride on lawn mower just to mow your lawn, then a 5 ton green drop water truck to feed it?

Pretty sure the answer is no for those of us doing a 1 or 2 tent personal grow of a couple plants right?

So why the Frick do people think you need commercial grade equipment, methods, nutes to grow a personal home grow of a couple plants?

IMHO you don't. It's a waste of money.

Lots of pics in my journal using Miracle-Gro and MarsHydro.


 

MY OWN DANK

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When i first started growing, everything was very hush hush and stealth was so necessary...hell, ya got 'noided buying miracle grow at walmart!
That being said, for years, i used MG and it taught me watering. Your finger stick moisture check is your first and probably worse habit. MG need a bit more perlite, perhaps 15-20% to help drainage.
MG IS a viable medium but is not very first time user friendly especially an impatient one.
Miracle Grow plants from my CFL days...2010'ish
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