Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends

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newworldicon

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Canon said:
As much as I say against LEDs for me and my uses,,, I have high expectations that someday they will be the "Beats all". Just not yet.
Low power, low heat, simplicity of installation / moving and all is why I keep watching.
I'm gonna give it another 5-10 yrs. probably before I try them again.

Tried a 180 UFO Lighthouse with the 6 band flower mod. Comparing that to my 250 HPS (seperately in a 2X2 ft area) HPS was significantly a better grow. This was with clones from same original mother, grow the same way.
At the time, the Lighthouse was said to be one of the better for small grows. Not the best but better than middle. Funny, Was listed as "New for 2011",,, I don't see them available anymore(?). Guess maybe they were not as good as reviews said....

That was just for testing. If it faired better I would of jumped on some bigger / better for a new grow room. Glad I tried a smaller first. :-(

While VERY appealing,,, was quit a letdown in the end.
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I'm not surprised you were disappointed with your UFO, as soon as I heard your first comment some pages back I knew instantly you were a ufo user. I bet a newer type 180W panel would do as well as your 250HPS.
Also if you look at the progress made in the last year alone in LED world that 5-10 years seems rather misrepresentative a number for technological advancement.
 
curly604

curly604

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hows this compare to your 180w ufo???? im like week 5-6 flowering under a 120w led.:leaf::leaf::leaf:

[video=youtube;cqJ4CSUikrs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJ4CSUikrs[/video]
 
Canon

Canon

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curly604 said:
hows this compare to your 180w ufo???? im like week 5-6 flowering under a 120w led.:leaf::leaf::leaf:

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My Super silvers were a bit bigger. But, you're looking like you're growing a more indica strain so the comparison it hard.
Nice grow though. Like the setup.

My HPS setup, just swapped the HPS for LED for the trial.
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After initial setup. 4 Bottom are just into flower, uppers still vegging in another cab. Only threw them in there for show & tell awhile ago.
Presently disassembling and moving it all to bigger & better.

The cab (veggie room).
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/449409-my-cab-re-do-son.html
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curly604

curly604

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Canon said:
curly604 said:
hows this compare to your 180w ufo???? im like week 5-6 flowering under a 120w led.:leaf::leaf::leaf:

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My Super silvers were a bit bigger. But, you're looking like you're growing a more indica strain so the comparison it hard.
Nice grow though. Like the setup.

My HPS setup, just swapped the HPS for LED for the trial.
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After initial setup. 4 Bottom are just into flower, uppers still vegging in another cab. Only threw them in there for show & tell awhile ago.
Presently disassembling and moving it all to bigger & better.

The cab (veggie room).
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/449409-my-cab-re-do-son.html
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thanks for the good words man ya its a very strong indica strain og kush to the best of my knowledge. i like your setup too bro very nice, do you plan to move the bottoms ones to another room or do they stay?
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Canon

Canon

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Converting a coal bin I made some years ago in the basement. Everything will go there when finished. (but it's a slow finish - Ugh!) Quit coal because it's gotten so expensive it outweighs the ambision to bother. But, it'll be a nice decoy for snoopers that maybe called in to repait water heater, tele service, etc. Trying to keep all stealth as much as possible.
Vegging will be in with the flower but within a grow tent 21X36X5ft.
LED may be in there too for the vegatables I plan to try year round. I'm a habinaro freak (and collect different strains of them)! (LOL)
 
curly604

curly604

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Canon said:
Converting a coal bin I made some years ago in the basement. Everything will go there when finished. (but it's a slow finish - Ugh!) Quit coal because it's gotten so expensive it outweighs the ambision to bother. But, it'll be a nice decoy for snoopers that maybe called in to repait water heater, tele service, etc. Trying to keep all stealth as much as possible.
Vegging will be in with the flower but within a grow tent 21X36X5ft.
LED may be in there too for the vegatables I plan to try year round. I'm a habinaro freak (and collect different strains of them)! (LOL)
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nice man sounds like it will be a nice setup haha ya got to love them habinaro's man toss a couple in a big pot of chili mmmmmmm thats what im takin about.
 
Canon

Canon

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LOL,, Love the Habs. I make a sweet / hot (sweetheart) relish. Takes a few seconds for the fire to start.
Funny how people say they "like hot",, until the hotdog smolders from the relish. LOL
 
curly604

curly604

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Canon said:
LOL,, Love the Habs. I make a sweet / hot (sweetheart) relish. Takes a few seconds for the fire to start.
Funny how people say they "like hot",, until the hotdog smolders from the relish. LOL
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hahah nice ro that will show em you gotta throw it on the table and not tell anyone lol .
 
curly604

curly604

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lets talk brightness vs coverage it seems that light intensity is never really a problem with leds but coverage is always lacking. if you vegged some monster bushes and just made sure there was good coverage with decent brightness/intensity would you yield more or would small bushes with mad intensity yield more?
 
curly604

curly604

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sent an email to glh about if they had actually released the new technology and for the new pricing and i received this the same day!

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:clap: way to be guy this man just sold an led lol , as i liked the look of his products already and this fast polite informative return email just sealed the deal, also a discount for forum members!!! first i heard of that and i like it!!!
 
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jdizzle22

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curly604 said:
:clap: way to be guy this man just sold an led lol , as i liked the look of his products already and this fast polite informative return email just sealed the deal, also a discount for forum members!!! first i heard of that and i like it!!!
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I imagine the discount for forum members has something to do with GLH being a sponsor of this website*? *pretty sure it is or was once
 
Tricks

Tricks

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curly604 said:
lets talk brightness vs coverage it seems that light intensity is never really a problem with leds but coverage is always lacking. if you vegged some monster bushes and just made sure there was good coverage with decent brightness/intensity would you yield more or would small bushes with mad intensity yield more?
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Short plants in a sog would maximize yield in a small setup. I would still use 2 or more led lights for better penetration and coverage.
 
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jdizzle22

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SuperSize82 said:
hmmm still the debate for me on led over hid, price just still seems a lil high
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I think it will be difficult to see them become much cheaper with never ending inflation, a crappy economy, rising cost of transportation and products because of oil, etc I don't think it will get much cheaper for awhile unless the market is flooded with so many more LED sellers that they nudge each other closer to wholesale prices. Somewhere I was reading (here?) someone figured out they could start their own company/set of panels for ~$1 per watt while most of these middleman/LEDcompanies sell them back to us at $2-3 and even up to $5 per watt.

Maybe it will get to the point where most people are buying more directly from the factories most of these LED companies get their panels from to avoid the middleman mark up. Or the factories will start their own companies some where in between? I don't think it would be an issue buying in bulk straight from the factories if you're going to fill a large commercial grow area, there would be no reason to buy so many panels at retail price even without warranty stuff. So the peeps that don't want to figure out how to make their own panel and to actually get the parts ordered and put together, there are retail with warranty prices from these LED vendor websites. / It would seem to me one is possibly stuck at $2-3 per watt retail for the good stuff for awhile, only way to get it cheaper is to buy straight from the factory which anyone buying more than 6-9 panels/spending4or5grand$/ or filling large rooms with should*

*yet to see use of light movers with [good] LED panels, but I imagine it would work great
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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jdizzle22 said:
I imagine the discount for forum members has something to do with GLH being a sponsor of this website*? *pretty sure it is or was once
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Common sense says if you want to sell hydro equipment pally up with hydro growers in a forum, so what, some have got a discount form him, power to us!!
 
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spooky1i

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I have not read all the posts on here so forgive me if I am repeating something someone else has said. There is alot of talk about the intial cost of these LED and recouping your money foy your intial investment and being the owner of a 1000 watt digital HID unit I will have to say you bashers of LED's are just deluded when it comes to the cost of running said unit. The amount of heat put off by this thing is incredible. I had to install a portable ac unit in the room just to keep it cool enough in the room for the summer months. So there is the extra cost to run that which is alot I might add. Even being a night time opperator and living in the northeast with mild summers. And I'm no newbie either been growing for years and years. Then factor in the replacement bulb cost. Hortilux eye 80 to 120 smacks depending who you get them from and that should be changed every grow. If you arent changing it then your cutting your own wang off in the end. So there is that. And if you do say 4 or 5 runs a year like I do then it adds up to say an LED unit. Plus the extra cost to AC in the summer months. Are LED's pricey sure, are there alot of jags out there trying to make a quick buck on some crappy LED's definitely. But at the same time there are some companies out there putting out good products don't let some rip off LED's taint your whole outlook on the technoligy. And when you bash so hard about something you obviously don't have a clear understanding about you seem like you represent an interest that is working for the HID industry. Don't take this the wrong way. I'm an old guy I don't except change easily it has to be proven to me first. LED seems to me like it's right there. I plan on making the switch in the near future. I will probably end up getting 3 units in the 3 to 4 hundred watt category because I currently use a mover for that 1000 HID to bloom 16 to 18 plants at a time. Hell just not having to buy a new bulb every 2 months is enough reason for me to do it. Also the digital balast will only last maybe 5 years if you are lucky. But the heat in the summer is definetly an issue as well. Am I going to throw my HID in the trash or sell it no. Could be useful in the winter still helps heat the house. Also I figure it could be used a couple weeks here and there to supersize my yield. I have been following the advancements of LED for years and watching the prices slowly creep down. I think it's time to get involved. More efficiency=lower overhead.
 
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