fragileassassin
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That the downside of all of those combo lights though. Decent at both isnt best for either.
Im going to grow a plant out with an amazon blurple next.
Im going to grow a plant out with an amazon blurple next.
New Mars Hydro TSL2000 run
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Airwalker16
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I'm ditching the gorilla skittlez. Lil piece of Shit just doesn't fuckin yield.
But as you can see, the Blueberry, smells literally exactly like blueberries, and as you can tell from the pic, grows insanely thick nugs. Hopefully this Blue Dream and Sorbet Dreams I have for next run prove to yield similarly so I can FINALLY have some decent yielding phenos that are actually DANK too.
This 3 Blue Kings is seriously so blueberry smelling it's unlike anything I've ever come across... Very very very impressed at the exactness on the smell.
But as you can see, the Blueberry, smells literally exactly like blueberries, and as you can tell from the pic, grows insanely thick nugs. Hopefully this Blue Dream and Sorbet Dreams I have for next run prove to yield similarly so I can FINALLY have some decent yielding phenos that are actually DANK too.
This 3 Blue Kings is seriously so blueberry smelling it's unlike anything I've ever come across... Very very very impressed at the exactness on the smell.
fragileassassin
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I have some kind of blue dream cross and a couple blue widow seeds I really want to get in this year.
mr. childs
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so it'd be a good cheap light for veg, clones, & moms?
Airwalker16
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Absolutely. It's not that it doesn't flower, there's just more blue than there should be I feel.
end_of_the_tunnel
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What you noticing with in the plants with the 5k based light, compared to the TS? Genuinely curious.
Airwalker16
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You don't read close enough.
end_of_the_tunnel
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I simply asked based on what you say you felt? I read through and must have missed something you observed.
Airwalker16
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The Mars is the light that's too blue.
awesome job Airwalker, good to see the positives and the negatives of these lights
i wish they upgrade their lights soon with more red spectrum since most would use them for flowering too.
and maybe they should lower the price slightly, compared to Hlg its not so big difference the money (at least prices in Europe)
i wish they upgrade their lights soon with more red spectrum since most would use them for flowering too.
and maybe they should lower the price slightly, compared to Hlg its not so big difference the money (at least prices in Europe)
Airwalker16
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Ya for once in I think.... Ever, I actually wish there was a "Bloom" switch I could press to turn off those 5000ks or at least 2/3 of them.
fragileassassin
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we should make our own lights! we have so many good ideas.
fragileassassin
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Personally, I think modular rack/track style lighting could be the future of home grow LED fixtures.
Id like a bar style light that you can adjust the position of each bar and theyre a quick click and swap connection so you can have bars for veg/flower supplementation that you can swap out faster than a single T5 bulb. Have so many bars of white diodes and then the ability to add more directed supplement bars when needed. Could even cover all the UV stuff in there.
That new lumatek zeus 600w pro has some really cool and well thought out features.
Id like a bar style light that you can adjust the position of each bar and theyre a quick click and swap connection so you can have bars for veg/flower supplementation that you can swap out faster than a single T5 bulb. Have so many bars of white diodes and then the ability to add more directed supplement bars when needed. Could even cover all the UV stuff in there.
That new lumatek zeus 600w pro has some really cool and well thought out features.
Airwalker16
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It finished them as it should. But as I've said, in my opinion, there's too many 5000k diodes used on the boards making flowering with them, not as good as it could have been.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Do you feel adding supplementation in the form of a strip or bar is effective at providing a decently dispersed, even spectrum? Or even a strip of red or whatever down a white board?
Just curious as to why so many growers don't just buy a Premium fixture with all the supplementation added to it out the box for the most uniform spread as well as never having to purchase add-ons to achieve the desired growth traits, prettier buds & higher yields? Oh, that never blend unless diy spreading is done. Messy stuff usually.
Never understood that one.
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Guess the same goes for heat sinking or thermal mngmt . Growers are purchasing far inferior (to what they are told) products with unmentionable L & B ratings because for the manufacturer to mention them would mean admitting selling you a Lemon, designed to dimm-out on you x2 as fast as you expected if you know anything about industry standards (L/70 or 30% depreciation at 50,000 or 100,000 hrs depending on what the manufacturer listed as the lifespan. Why, cuz if they feed you one needed NM or wavelength a yr they can increase their customer upgrade margin enough to never hear about the fast depreciation you can Barely see with your eyes anyways but cost you yeilds beyond.
B ratings so poor they'd show manufacturers using 1/2 top-binish diodes (or at least better then other half) & the other half, god knows what bin or quality. Hence a B/50 rating.
Yet a guaranteed, fully-properly enhanced, Beefed to High Heaven fixture using the top components everywhere & one of the few Custom designs with all the Bells n whistles, fixtures is not even on the growers led radar? One glance shows you double to triple the L ratings of the competitors. L ratings are based on how much heat the diodes exposed to. Close, clusters on thin PCB's with skinny mini heat sinks is a good indicator of a low lifespan fixture.
Most times the same cost or only a few yards more one can get it right the first time. Always less money next to anything remotely close in build quality or components, but the competitors will likely not have the Bells + Whistels), just the basics with the basic, defficient spectrum.
Please, if anyone can enlighten me to another direction of thinking, im all ears & open-minded.
Just reporting what I've seen as a trend for toooo long.
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bk78
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Did you send the lights back? Any reason you never continued to post pictures and updates?
what was the final weights?
fragileassassin
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That was more in mind of the avg home user. I'm big on good for both is best for neither and have two separate setups for veg and flower. Making something like I described could be very useful to the single setup grower to be able to mix and match different modules to get their desired mixture.
I just bought 561c boards that have rows of 660 in them and I'm happy enough with them I doubt I'll add any other supplemental lighting.
They definitely grow more weight in my space than I know what to do with already so I haven't looked too much passed what I already got.
rkymtnman
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does added 660 contribute to the Emerson effect? i think my far red pucks have definitely helped supplment my 4K boards but far red is higher than 660Nm. . one of my plants just fell over last nite from too much weight. life sucks. lol.