CrackerJax
New Member
Is that the Spanish Comedian?
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420HAZE420
Guest
I dont go o church nor do I follow organized religion.I believe in praising the lord for giving us life.And I dont think that im any better than any of you.I love you all
HookdOnChronics
Well-Known Member
Thanks Kaleo! Preciate it man! lol, and good question BTW! lol, And to be honest, I have NO IDEA what Jesus looked like! lol, the only reason I put that whit, blond hair blue nonsense is because the other dude put that... Who knows man! Maybe God's black! And talks straight gangsta style! hahaha
Kaleo sounds like a smoke session w/you could be a fun one! haha
And (sorry to you haze, but) this is the reason people "hate" christians! Because one, or a couple act like complete ass holes and all they have to say is your wrong and I'm right! Then all of the sudden people get this thought in their head that 'oh this christian thought he was better than me, what an ass hole' and from there, because of human nature, they tend to start thinking all christians are the same! He has no right to be calling you ignorant! I agree! Just because we have a difference of 'opinion' doesn't give him the right to say and treat you like a 'lesser' person.
Thats exactly how I feel, and have always felt!
Sounds now like he's had a change of heart? Good man HAZE! lol, just... Why wasn't the first post like this?...
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hempcurescancer
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I think this is my new favorite picture.
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420HAZE420
Guest
Well im glad you see things my way.I stopped reading right there.
First, if you are looking for advice do not insult the people you are seeking it from.
Second, Learn how to use manners in general, you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
Three, Atheist is plural in the context you are using it. (and we are the ignorant ones?)
Fourth, If you are in fact saying we are ignorant because we don't believe in a fantastical figure who is three people in one god and also has people eat him in cracker form? The same god who condones slavery, hatred towards gay people, and intolerance to women and sex? The same God who's story is identically similar to twelve different religious stories before him? Yeah... you are right, we are the ignorant ones.... my bad.
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420HAZE420
Guest
Can all you athiest take a look at this picture.Please use your dome
HookdOnChronics
Well-Known Member
Dude please just stop! lol, You just keep digging your self a depper grave!
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420HAZE420
Guest
I still believe what I did when I started this forum and I will never have a change of heart.The problem with you guys is you always look for the logical scientific explanation when sometimes the answer is not logical or even thought to be possible.And Im the one whose close-minded?Thanks Kaleo! Preciate it man! lol, and good question BTW! lol, And to be honest, I have NO IDEA what Jesus looked like! lol, the only reason I put that whit, blond hair blue nonsense is because the other dude put that... Who knows man! Maybe God's black! And talks straight gangsta style! hahaha
Kaleo sounds like a smoke session w/you could be a fun one! haha
And (sorry to you haze, but) this is the reason people "hate" christians! Because one, or a couple act like complete ass holes and all they have to say is your wrong and I'm right! Then all of the sudden people get this thought in their head that 'oh this christian thought he was better than me, what an ass hole' and from there, because of human nature, they tend to start thinking all christians are the same! He has no right to be calling you ignorant! I agree! Just because we have a difference of 'opinion' doesn't give him the right to say and treat you like a 'lesser' person.
Thats exactly how I feel, and have always felt!
Sounds now like he's had a change of heart? Good man HAZE! lol, just... Why wasn't the first post like this?...
Please go ask any scientist in the world and they will tell you that they cant find any proof of your theory and they might not admit it but they never will.
Sure there was a chain of events in our universe that created us, but guess who was there making it happen?
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420HAZE420
Guest
Oh yeah i believe you dumbshit.Gese you should get an education
KaleoXxX
Well-Known Member
i think your misunderstanding that de-motivational poster
slomoking said this and this the nail on the head
"Christians think dinosaur fossils were put on earth to test their faith.... Athiests know dinosaur fossils are over 230 million years old by carbon dating... they also know that the mountain range in your picture took over 6500 (earth's approximate age according to the bible) years to be formed by the collision of tectonic plates... not that they just happened by chance one day."
cannabluntcies
Active Member
Without religion it would be a lot harder to mind control the masses as it has throughout history.
Remember that period called the dark ages in europe? Why was the religious literature only written in a language the population could not read?I'll answer that for you.... Because it gave a small minority the power dictate what the religion says and the blind sheep would follow reveling in their ignorance. It does not get much more blatant than that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&fmt=18
(check it out. Very good points)
Remember that period called the dark ages in europe? Why was the religious literature only written in a language the population could not read?I'll answer that for you.... Because it gave a small minority the power dictate what the religion says and the blind sheep would follow reveling in their ignorance. It does not get much more blatant than that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&fmt=18
(check it out. Very good points)
slomoking13
Well-Known Member
Ok... Evolution is FACT, it happens and has been happening since the first forms of life were on this planet. There is no denying it. Natural Selection however is the Theory part, it's a theory because it is the best reason yet for why evolution occurs. You have more research to do. If you are interested, colleges offer classes on evolution and every professor will tell you it is a fact, i took the courses. I still have some problems with all of it myself and the problem most people have is getting over themselves and giving up the possibility that they were put on earth by god for a special purpose. It does make life seem a little demeaning to think that your only purpose is to pass on your genes to the next generation. In my eyes, that's only half of it... the other half is how you deal with reality and your perception of mankind. Do you go around knocking people for not believing the same thing as you do, or do you make the best of things and realize that everyone has the right to believe what they wish and be treated equally as citizens of humanity... not based on government, religon, age, race, or your moral beliefs of right and wrong. I was raised as a christian and shunned for asking why? You can't hold people down and force them to believe what you believe, it just doesn't work that way. Nobody is knocking you for having faith and believing in something greater, that's awesome. I believe in something greater too, it's just not in the form of a god. If there is a god, i don't know what he/she is.. i just know what god would not be. I commend you for not being a part of organized religon and having your own beliefs. It's just too bad that the strong faith you do have can't be put into humanity instead of trying to decide what's right and what's wrong for everybody.
CrackerJax
New Member
I think the spelling threw me off....
Jeorge Carlin ... that was George Carlin's Mexican cousin?Folks, just because you don't know the ABC's of something doesn't make it kewl to insert XY&Z, and then run around acting like you know something important.
KaleoXxX
Well-Known Member
absolutely, i agree 100% +reps to you
the only point i have to add is this; there is a third reason for us to be alive and that is to make our lives as enjoyable as possible(something i keep forgetting, more concerned with the gene passing part, which i guess is enjoyable lol)
KaleoXxX
Well-Known Member
um im pretty sure it IS spelled with a G(edit: just realized i had a mometary loss of spelling skills a while ago, sry if this seems like an asshole statement)I think the spelling threw me off....
Folks, just because you don't know the ABC's of something doesn't make it kewl to insert XY&Z, and then run around acting like you know something important.
so if you want to argue ABCs and XYZs about George Carlin watch some comedy on youtube at the very least
slomoking13
Well-Known Member
Haha... I guess what Im saying is that in the end, you have to look at the facts. When begin to look at the facts, the possibility of a god existing as most religions perceive him diminishes. This happens as you start to separate the concrete facts from something you were led to believe at a certain point in your life by someone else. All you can do is give people factual information and hope when they are seeking information they can separate the facts from fabricated information. You can make up anything you want and people can choose to believe it, twist it, or believe something completely different. A religion can be created at the speed of thought. The meaning to life is whatever you make it. You should practice a set of moral and ethical standards that you believe is right as long as it doesnt interfere with other peoples beliefs or their right to humanity. In the end, everyone will have their own form of enlightenment and happiness; its not something that should be forced on people or used to make them feel unequal.
HookdOnChronics
Well-Known Member
Hahahaha, yes thats what he needs to do! lol
And I'm with you on that! Hate was a horrible choice of words! lol, intolerant is MUCH more suitable.
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I agree, things evolve, but I do not at all think that WE humans came from apes/monkeys.
hahahahaha, I'M the one who should get an education?... I believe you are the one who was all excited about that de-motivational poster. When it was actually ment to make fun of you and your beliefs..... But you didn't catch that did you?... lol
It's dick's like you that make people of other religions 'dislike' nice, non-dicks like me...
EDIT: Mother fucker... I just typed a whole lot on the whole evolution thing and accidentally hit the back button and erased it all. I have a broken wrist so I'm not typing that again...
This is to nobody in particular, just some of my thoughts...
The jist of it: How could one be 100% sure that these dinosaur bones are 230 million years old? And all of this is said with the utmost respect, but that HAS to be an educated guess at most! There is just no way one can say wihtout a shadow of a doubt that those dinosaur bones are 230 million years old!
Now, I don't believe that, and I'm not knocking you for believing it by any means. But thats what you believe and I bet you are pretty freaking sure about it! Not much of a doubt in your mind, thats how it is and you know it! And thats awesome! Now I'm not much different! You don't believe in God, and your not knocking me for believing it. But thats what I believe and I am pretty freaking sure about it! There's no doubt in my mind, that's how it is and I know it.
Are either sides set in concrete, and 100% right no matter what... Well there isn't really an answer to that, Yes and No... You may say yours is, and I'd say mine is, but that's what's so great! WE ARE HUMANS! And can CHOOSE to believe whatever the hell we want to! And thats what makes this world so great! How boring would it be if every single person believed in the exact same thing? Pretty boring I bet you!
I guess we're just gonna have to wait to die and see what happens man! Untill then tho I plan on living an exciting life!
Oh, and just out of curiosity and because I'm interested in knowing... What do Atheists' believe happens after death? Because do not know...
Thanks for all the input guys!!! MUCH LOVE
-Hookd
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Dude, how many times are you going to edit your post?
We didn't evolve from modern apes, we share a common ancestor. We ARE apes. Humans are primates and have been classified as such ever since the creationist Carl Linnaeus began classifying species decades before Darwin set sail.
I really don't understand the problem that people have with the realization that we are just as much a part of the animal kingdom and nature as every other creature on this planet. How can someone accept the facts of evolution but deny that we are closely related to our simian brethren?
Maybe we need an evolution sticky since many of us have had to correct this exact sentiment numerous times.
We didn't evolve from modern apes, we share a common ancestor. We ARE apes. Humans are primates and have been classified as such ever since the creationist Carl Linnaeus began classifying species decades before Darwin set sail.
I really don't understand the problem that people have with the realization that we are just as much a part of the animal kingdom and nature as every other creature on this planet. How can someone accept the facts of evolution but deny that we are closely related to our simian brethren?
To be fair to him, this wasn't the best poster, as the 'atheists think' is a straw man to begin with.
Take the advice you just gave to 420haze and educate yourself. No one can claim 100% certainty on anything but stratigraphy and radiometric dating are quite reliable and the ability to apply various methods gives us a check on each other. Multiple dating methods giving the same result is highly unlikely if they weren't correct.