6 X 6 how to get 3lbs

indicalover420grower said:

Yeah I am taking preventative steps to avoid as much mistake as possible. Like having a digital ppm, ec, tds meter that gives me notifications to my phone if it gets to high or low, my AC infinity fans got the monitors for the temperature and humidity so they can auto adjust, of course ill get another temp and humidity probe to make sure they are accurate. Also I am going to insulate this shed really good so I can control my environment much better...

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If you rely on stuff like that then you are setting yourself up for failure. IMO, as a new grower, you want to be hands on as much as possible, so you can see how things look when certain parameters get out of line.

I have an AC Infinity Cloudline T6 and, while I love it, the auto mode has a lot to desire. The issue is that you cannot set a minimum fan speed so, if your tent humidity and temp aren't too high, then the fan turns off until one of those two parameters are out of line. I have an email out to them asking if there's anyway to set a minimum fan speed to keep the fan on at all times but haven't heard back from them yet.

I'm not trying to steer you away from automation, completely, because I make a living programming automation systems, but you need to know how to handle things in case the system ever fails to do what it needs to.

indicalover420grower said:

Yeah I am taking preventative steps to avoid as much mistake as possible. Like having a digital ppm, ec, tds meter that gives me notifications to my phone if it gets to high or low, my AC infinity fans got the monitors for the temperature and humidity so they can auto adjust, of course ill get another temp and humidity probe to make sure they are accurate. Also I am going to insulate this shed really good so I can control my environment much better...

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This is going to be your first mistake imo. Hands on is the best. To rely on tech shit it’s just asking for failure imo

bk78 said:

This is going to be your first mistake imo. Hands on is the best. To rely on tech shit it’s just asking for failure imo

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Especially when inexpensive sensors can act up. I'm using a "watchmen" to monitor temp/humidity in my tent and it's humidity reading is off. I've been emailing back and forth with the developer and he's not exactly sure what is going on, but it seems to be an issue with scaling the humidity correctly at certain temperatures. I only noticed it when I got my AC Infinity and noticed the watchman was off by 15% at times and then confirmed it was the watchman by strapping multiple sensors together to monitor throughout the day. The only thing I "automate" in my tent, though, is the light schedule and humidity set points automatically change when I switch growth periods. This is a screenshot from the touchscreen I built for the tent.

...and, yes, the plant in the picture looks like a plant in veg during the veg cycle because I'm a total geek like that.

ilovereggae said:

Sounds good. Wish I had construction skills and tools to do something like that! Insulating going to help. You still definitely going to need an AC of some kind to cool the space and/or deal with humidity. The AC Infinity fans will help with exhausting stale air, but the room is always going to be minimum whatever ambient temps are. So if it is 80 outside, and your lights adds 10 degrees, the fans are only going to help dissipate some of the heat from your lights, but won't cool the space down.

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Ahhh yeah your right bro. its like with pc gaming, the watercooled PCS are useless if your ambient temps are high.

Ok im learning now because I can get an ac and keep the temps in check, that takes care of that, the rest is just those monitors for the tds , ec, ppm ,ill still get the meter that gives me notifications if anything goes up high or too low but still be aware I need to check it consistently. Any thing else I should know?

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

...and, yes, the plant in the picture looks like a plant in veg during the veg cycle because I'm a total geek like that.

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LMAO

bk78 said:

This is going to be your first mistake imo. Hands on is the best. To rely on tech shit it’s just asking for failure imo

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Appreciate the feedback, Ill make sure to keep an eye on my plants more closely and not just blindly rely on tech.. Can you think of something else I may need to know that can help me?

indicalover420grower said:

Ok im learning now because I can get an ac and keep the temps in check, that takes care of that, the rest is just those monitors for the tds , ec, ppm ,ill still get the meter that gives me notifications if anything goes up high or too low but still be aware I need to check it consistently. Any thing else I should know?

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If you haven't I would really read https://growweedeasy.com end to end. Its really well written and simple explanations. It's going to give you a lot of solutions for things like environmental control and other basic stuff that you will need to think about.

indicalover420grower said:

I hope my research pays off because I think I have solid understanding of the lights and their features, ventilation, I just need to learn more about the feeding
But yeah with dwc grows I see people pulling nice yields. I would think because of that fast vegging so people can just turn them to flower sooner

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Backwards logic. With photoperiod plants, the flower time is all but determined already. That's they come with flowering estimates. Autos come with full term estimates.
Putting a photoperiod in flower sooner will decrease your yield because they are almost all between 8-12 weeks flowering time. The veg cycle is where the yields are made. Long veg. Smart veg. PLANNED veg. That's what makes for the biggest yields.
You want 3 lbs the first go, you veg for 2 months. You'll get it off 6 plants. Bet your ass your whole shed will be full. You'll want to cry at how much you have to get rid of to be able to manage it.

Out of the strains I have grown, I would say White Widow would be the one I would use if I was going for straight yield with a scrog set up. It will be the best producer in a 5 gal I have had I think (at least a week to go still)

I will agree hands on is the best, but dude if you can afford all those gadgets i say buy em all. You can still be super hands on with every gadget out there. If you don't have tons of money, then don't buy any of them though, you can grow the same plant

T macc said:

A 15 gallon soil pot can definitely yield a pound. But to the DWC question, I'd think about setting up a 50 gallon or 100 gallon water bucket as a reservoir, have that sit outside the shed, connect 4 dwc buckets to the reservoir using a pump. You can chill the reservoir and all the buckets will be the same. Have the pump flowing in through the bottom of the buckets, have a hose connected near the top of the buckets as a "fill" line; the buckets won't overflow.

You'd need to check the PPMs and Ph of the reservoir and only need to add nutes and adjust Ph.

You may want to throw a tarp over the reservoir to keep it cooler, and it's already in the shade, so may be better?

Since you're in SoCal, get clones; they're around you.

I dont mess with hydro at all, but that's the best solution I got.

Edit: I guess that is RDWC?

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Keep a rdwc reservoir outside in socal?

SchmoeJoe said:

Keep a rdwc reservoir outside in socal?

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With a chiller. Couldn't think of anything better. I'm a dirt man tho

KingQuazy said:

Backwards logic. With photoperiod plants, the flower time is all but determined already. That's they come with flowering estimates. Autos come with full term estimates.
Putting a photoperiod in flower sooner will decrease your yield because they are almost all between 8-12 weeks flowering time. The veg cycle is where the yields are made. Long veg. Smart veg. PLANNED veg. That's what makes for the biggest yields.
You want 3 lbs the first go, you veg for 2 months. You'll get it off 6 plants. Bet your ass your whole shed will be full. You'll want to cry at how much you have to get rid of to be able to manage it.

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I left out an important detail in that sentence. I wasnt going to veg the plant for a short time I was just explaining how in dwc the veg times are quicker, ill take advantage of it because in 2 months like you said the plant would be strong to handle the buds. But yeah I agree with you 100%

I am running 70w p/sft..in a 3x3 which is pretty intense... and that with 600w give or take 50w ...so at a guess in my head youll want around 1000 to 1200w for that area (if using LED/COBS (like me..)... The most ive pulled to date has been 17.5 oZ dry weight off a single plant in a 3x3...and am hoping to smash that this time around....gotta say its looking promising....but this time vegged her for 6 MONTHS lol...... Anyhow to pull big numbers you defo want to LST, Top multiple times and SCROG !!...and be on point with your trimming to get deep canopy penetration for a bigger bud count...anyhow hope that helps ...?... - STELTHY ............oh and I run a 25l filled to 19l DWC...

@FADING-SILHOUETTE thanks for the advice bro.

UPDATE: So I kept seeing how hard it is to keep temperatures steady for the water in the dwc buckets. After extensive research here is what I found out and what I plan to do.

Learned: How to make a air cooler under 100 bucks that gives off 55 degree cool air at 20mph...

My idea: Cool off ambient temps to make it easier to maintaining water temps, if I need to cool down water temps then simple ice bottle...

Planned application: Insulate and seal my shed very well and use this Very easy simple under 100 dollar diy air cooler and keep my ambient temps down. I wont be using a water chiller because in theory my air cooler will keep the ambient temps down and if the water temps did rise then ill be adding the ice water bottles. But insulation here would be the important factor and could be expensive so here is my solution. So ill make a small 6 x 4 space where ill be growing within the 6 x 8 shed and insulate it very well using 2 x 6's framing(2 x 6s are needed for r 30 insulation) for the insulated 6 x 4 space.. So with my exterior siding being a bright white (Heat reflection) great insulation and sealed environment. I should be able to control my environment.

That is the idea I had , maybe some of you got something useful out this.

pump
car radiator fan
heat exchanger (8 x
water pump
tubing
ice cooler
fittings


If you guys want the link let me know and ill post it.

indicalover420grower said:

UPDATE: So I kept seeing how hard it is to keep temperatures steady for the water in the dwc buckets. After extensive research here is what I found out and what I plan to do.

Learned: How to make a air cooler under 100 bucks that gives off 55 degree cool air at 20mph...

My idea: Cool off ambient temps to make it easier to maintaining water temps, if I need to cool down water temps then simple ice bottle...

Planned application: Insulate and seal my shed very well and use this Very easy simple under 100 dollar diy air cooler and keep my ambient temps down. I wont be using a water chiller because in theory my air cooler will keep the ambient temps down and if the water temps did rise then ill be adding the ice water bottles. But insulation here would be the important factor and could be expensive so here is my solution. So ill make a small 6 x 4 space where ill be growing within the 6 x 8 shed and insulate it very well using 2 x 6's framing(2 x 6s are needed for r 30 insulation) for the insulated 6 x 4 space.. So with my exterior siding being a bright white (Heat reflection) great insulation and sealed environment. I should be able to control my environment.

That is the idea I had , maybe some of you got something useful out this.

pump
car radiator fan
heat exchanger (8 x
water pump
tubing
ice cooler
fittings


If you guys want the link let me know and ill post it.

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You can make thermal insulting jackets for your pots / res as well..defo keeps temps lower and more manageable - STELTHY

indicalover420grower said:

UPDATE: So I kept seeing how hard it is to keep temperatures steady for the water in the dwc buckets. After extensive research here is what I found out and what I plan to do.

Learned: How to make a air cooler under 100 bucks that gives off 55 degree cool air at 20mph...

My idea: Cool off ambient temps to make it easier to maintaining water temps, if I need to cool down water temps then simple ice bottle...

Planned application: Insulate and seal my shed very well and use this Very easy simple under 100 dollar diy air cooler and keep my ambient temps down. I wont be using a water chiller because in theory my air cooler will keep the ambient temps down and if the water temps did rise then ill be adding the ice water bottles. But insulation here would be the important factor and could be expensive so here is my solution. So ill make a small 6 x 4 space where ill be growing within the 6 x 8 shed and insulate it very well using 2 x 6's framing(2 x 6s are needed for r 30 insulation) for the insulated 6 x 4 space.. So with my exterior siding being a bright white (Heat reflection) great insulation and sealed environment. I should be able to control my environment.

That is the idea I had , maybe some of you got something useful out this.

pump
car radiator fan
heat exchanger (8 x
water pump
tubing
ice cooler
fittings


If you guys want the link let me know and ill post it.

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What’s this diy air cooler?

indicalover420grower said:

Ok im learning now because I can get an ac and keep the temps in check, that takes care of that, the rest is just those monitors for the tds , ec, ppm ,ill still get the meter that gives me notifications if anything goes up high or too low but still be aware I need to check it consistently. Any thing else I should know?

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A couple items that help me with my grows.

Sensibo - Wifi AC controller. Able to manage and schedule settings.

Ecowitt GW1000 - wifi temp humidity monitoring.

I agree that growers must be hands on and keep a close eye on things.