Chunky Stool
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If you don't have HEPA filtration on your indoor air intake, you'd still be smoking dust and mold spores on indoor weed.
I've also seen a LOT of hairs & clothing fibers on bud pics, which is gross.
A Sleu of Questions for the Answering - Please Don’t Be Shy
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I've also seen a LOT of hairs & clothing fibers on bud pics, which is gross.
Chunky Stool
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I will wash my next indoor crop and post pics of the water when I"m done.
I bet you'll be surprised how much "stuff" is suspended in the water.
I bet you'll be surprised how much "stuff" is suspended in the water.
RayRay747
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Indoor grow right? If so, that is the main reason I want to wash the buds even if indoors...
Flowki
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''If early deaths were counted together, air pollution would be the third leading cause of death in the United States and the world''
''Air pollution is not counted as a cause of death because it is not an illness''
Washing buds seems kinda moot from that perspective.
Dr. Who
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Sure do!
Dr. Who
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Me too....RH 45%
vostok
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Questions:
1) Do you make hash, if so bubble or another form? Any tips on that process? 5 gallon vs 1 gallon bags, bubble machine, washing process, etc.? I have, 1usg is great
2) Temps ambient or canopy? What’s ideal temps and RH% for each? I seem to not see a difference noted or a differentiation between the two.m ever given...
Which is most important to watch or are both equally important? 27c/77f is good and 65& humidity ..55% is best in bud
3) How cold does it need to be to stunt growth by roots being too cold? anything under 60F is trouble
4) would you order new super soil from coast of Maine for a photo or just reuse the soil from a small yielding auto plant?
The plant had issues with pH and just not sure the soil is worth trying to revitalize. Buy the best soil ever ..even more important than the strain you get... bleed baby FoxFarm with 30% perlite
5) If you had to make a choice, Would you use tap water (my tap has a lot of extra shit in it) distilled water, spring water or purified water for watering/mixing nutes? 50/50 is good RO for germ tho
6) do you wash your buds before drying? if so what is your process? no never unless theres an issue like mold, I may dip in a 15% bleach and WARM water solution. then to cookies
7) is it mandatory to have a oscillating fan on the buds/in bud dry box while drying them? No often they dry to quick as a result but hey I use a small 4inch pc type fan magic it is too
8 ) Can I dry in a large plastic container or is it best to build a smaller box (using plywood and drywall)? I would coat the Inside with reflective insulation for easy cleaning and keeping temps steady.
if so nooby here you gotta do this..? hang a line above the light in your tent. hang stems at 12inches long with buds attached for 10-14 days at 77F
9) Could you give a quick run down of how you run your photos? on major milestones such as how long to veg, when to flip to flower, what to watch out for, etc?
10) Does anyone use ascorbic acid for a pH down, to remove chloramine, etc? If so, what purpose and dosage? If not, why don’t you use it?
you ask for soil details then spit this out...
in time as a member of this site you may learn thru the mistakes of others
even share those mistakes with members here
the major goal of the membership of this site is too....
GROW THE BEST WEED IN THE WORLD WITH THE BEST GEAR AVAILABLE
Which means to you.. to eventually learn about and use ORGANICS...
and meet fellow members in you local park scraping up pigeon shit...and stealing basket ball lamps and sawdust
Good Luck
RayRay747
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Thanks for the response.
Issues I had regarding water source and quality of water:
1) I added baking soda to water to increase pH which didn’t make the plants happy for whatever reason. And may have affected the soils pH.
2) I added oranges to the water to attempt to remove chlorine and/or chloramine from tap the tap (which is at 7.3-7.4 pH average, straight out of the tap). I think the ammonia (that comes from the oranges), seriously increases the pH of the soil once the ammonia breaks down in the soil. I added the oranges during boil and post boil to gauge results. The pH decreased both times, however after water cooled for 30mins the pH was at 8.3-8.5. I fed the plants the plants using this water for two weeks before realizing the issue.
3) When I boiled the tap water, I believe that one or more of the substances in my tap water reacted to the boiling of the water... because when the water finally cooled and I test the pH again, the pH was at 8.3-8.5, from the 7.3-7.4 initial pH.
4) Ascorbic Acid (AA): From my research and speaking with a few people, I’ve found that a small amount of ascorbic acid “should” be ok for the plants but unsure on how much the AA will affect the well-being of bennies within an organic soil grow. Now this is by no means a scientific fact, it’s more of an educated guess based on the information I pulled in.
RESULTS: Finding about two weeks in, the 2 plants I fed with the questionable water had runnoff water around 8.5-9.5. They are extremely stunted with possible signs of recovery but considering they are autos the yield will most likely be lacking the #s so i most likely will use those two plants for hash.
All educated guesses based on my personal experience trying to get the plants the best water source
SOLUTIONS: I now just buy spring water refills from store (10 gallons a pop for $2.30), bubble the 10 gallons of water on the day of purchase for 60mins, then on the day of watering, I’ll mix my additives into a 5gallon bottle and bubble again for another 30mins or so then pH and typically bubble it another 15mins or so and confirm pH then feed.
I don’t use boiled water and or oranges anymore. I don’t use ascorbic acid anymore even tho one of the products I use (Jumpstart by Growmore) has a little in it.
The 3 dark devils and the new sour diesel I’m growing are growing at very decent rates and look good imo. I just started a photo dinafem critical +.
What I use weekly: Jumpstart, Vegamtrix Amp-It, Recharge, Aloe Vera Juice, Cocunut Water, Blackstrap Molasses
What I use on “water only days”: Aloe Vera Juice, Cocunut Water, Blackstrap Molasses
I plan to stop all additives about 2-3 weeks before harvest and flush at least once before harvest, mostly likely twice. I’ll also try the cold water and 48-hour of darkness techniques.
I buy stonington Blend growers mix (their super soil), so I’m pretty kick ass with the soil imo.
Regarding the drying, I didn’t think it was best to dry in grow box because I’ll still have some plants growing and didn’t want the heat from the lights to dry them too quickly. I don’t think I can stay happily within the 65-75 range for drying.
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RayRay747
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Not sure the water was doing something to my plants and it’s filled with a bunch of shit...all I can say is since switching to spring water the plants are doing much better.I think when it comes to water it is easier for me to say that i grow in high ph heavily chlorinated tapwater that contains very little calcium or magnesium and my plants fucking love the stuff as does my soil microlife.
If i can so can you
My water also has chlorine and chloramine which are too I just don’t want to have at all if possible in my soil. It’s just a preference and more of a snob type approach lol. But yeah I’m not truly sure why my water was not suitable for the plants when mixed with my nutes/additives.
Kingrow1
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Must be hard for anyone to grow plants in your country if the water is that bad then, most houses round you must be void of any type of houseplant or decorative plants indoors with only rain watered outdoor plants managing to survive
RayRay747
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I think so...we just buy plastic plants from the farmer down the block.Must be hard for anyone to grow plants in your country if the water is that bad then, most houses round you must be void of any type of houseplant or decorative plants indoors with only rain watered outdoor plants managing to survive
Chunky Stool
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Real farmers don't sell plastic plants.I think so...we just buy plastic plants from the farmer down the block.
Kingrow1
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real farmers dont obsess about tap water eitherReal farmers don't sell plastic plants.
vostok
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Must be hard for anyone to grow plants in your country if the water is that bad then, most houses round you must be void of any type of houseplant or decorative plants indoors with only rain watered outdoor plants managing to survive
You do need to know how bad it is ...on par with the French or London water tho recycled 12 times..I'd have London water before Los Angles or Denver..
but Scotland' and Norwegian water .... is the BEST IN THE WORLD
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vostok
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Many Wal-Mart Supercenters (and possibly other grocery stores)
have water machines by which customers can fill or refill one-gallon water jugs for $0.37 each.
in time you may see the soil fixes up the Ph of any water
RayRay747
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Uhmmmm.hmmmmm. Real “rookie” farmers should obsess about the main liquid going into the soil/plants.real farmers dont obsess about tap water either
. I know one thing I won’t change is my need for the best water to foster the best growing environment. If I’m obsessed I’m obsessed but nevertheless my crop yield and quality will speak for itself.Until I can figure out the issues I’m having with using my tap water I’ll play it safe and use the spring water I’ve been using that has done wonders for the plants versus my tap water: I could just need a filter which is next on my to buy list but I’m on a tight budget so working with what I have to work with until next month. I’ll be switching to tap water using a decent filter ($125-$150 range) and will be using that water on my photo plant. I have 6 autos going right now and already stunted 2 of them. The other 4 are doing just great with the new water change.
So until I figure out the water issue and solution so I can use tap water (hopefully filter works), and if not with the small amount of plants I will be working on (1 photo, the 6 autos I’ll harvest by early February), the cost for spring water will be $5.40 per month (which is more expensive than tap water I know).
Right now I’m just trying to find a solution and then I can go back to tap water without risking the plants health.
Trust me I want/like to save $ and time and just pour tap water, bubble it add my additives, bubble it and then feed.
RayRay747
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Yep exactly what I use!!!
Many Wal-Mart Supercenters (and possibly other grocery stores)
have water machines by which customers can fill or refill one-gallon water jugs for $0.37 each.
in time you may see the soil fixes up the Ph of any water
vostok
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Atypical recommendation from me for those with bad water
is to use 50/50 tap water to 50% RO water
you do need some of those minerals IMO
or hassle about later putting in Calmag later
above like you I'd go 50% walmart to 50% local stream
but hey get the stream water tested by a lab one time per year
is to use 50/50 tap water to 50% RO water
you do need some of those minerals IMO
or hassle about later putting in Calmag later
above like you I'd go 50% walmart to 50% local stream
but hey get the stream water tested by a lab one time per year
RayRay747
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Great idea. I’ll try that method and see results. I’m happy to try out different methods to get the best method honed in for the plants. Will try that on my next watering which will be Friday.
Thanks for the suggestion.