Wolverine97
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As Crash said before, don't sweat the runoff pH, it doesn't matter for your purposes.
Coco Growers Unite!
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littlegrower2004
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you can definetely water coco daily, some people will even do it multiple times a day. such as flood and drain. the more waterings, the more the roots encounter nutrients. you dont need to let your coco dry out like soil, coco isnt soil. its not whether the plants container needs watering its just giving the plants access to it daily. snowcrash you should do a side by side with a watered daily vs watering when needed and i can almost guarantee faster growth.
DankBudzzz
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This is confusing me a little. I feel like since I've started nutes, things are starting to pick up so maybe I should be watering daily, but I also think that they need time for oxygen to get to the roots...
littlegrower2004
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H20, im pretty sure theres oxygen in water haha. as well when you water, oxygen is brought into the root system and coco. you cant over water coco! some people use it as a flood and drain medium that gets flooded a few times a day, so there is definetely a good amount of oxygen exchange going on for them to be able to do that.
DankBudzzz
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Kudos man, Ill try watering two of them everyday to compare.
littlegrower2004
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sounds good, keep us posted.
Snow Crash
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This is very much untrue. You can most definitely over-water in coco. Over watering is about frequency, not volume, and young root systems simply don't need that much moisture. You can push all the water/nutrients you desire through a planter but if the roots don't fill the planter you are not only wasting solution you are also ensuring the roots never get as much air as they need.
Coco is not as airy as littlegrower2004 will have you believe. I have had my battles with people like this who make these outrageously nonsensical claims because I suffered at their hands in my earlier days.
I'll say it one last time, and this is 100% true, you can over water in coco. This guy is talking about "some people..." but not "in my garden..." and that should let you know who to listen to here. Until the root zone is full you want to take it easy on the plants. The fuller and healthier the root zone the happier the plants.
Coco retains lots of moisture, it is very spongey, so you can choose to water it as frequently as twice a day or infrequently as once every 3 days. There are many factors that come into play and there is no definitive rule when it comes to coco. The versatility is one of the best parts about the media in this regard. You do not need to be a slave to your media.
My plants are in 3 gallon planters but contain only about 2 gallons of media. They can hold about 6L of solution. These plants on day 35 drink about 2L per day.
But these smaller plants in one gallon planters don't need water more than once every 48 hours, 72 to 96 hours is normal for them.
So take a look at the health of the plant and water appropriately for her needs. You don't need to water daily until your roots are happy and your plant is healthy.
littlegrower2004
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definetely is very true that you cant over water. over watering shouldnt even be a term considered it should be under oxygenated. if water was a problem than DWC wouldnt work. its having proper oxygen ratio in your medium for the roots to be healthy. you must be confused about coco yourself thinking that the more times you water your coco, the more water it will retain. coco will only hold a certain amount of water whether its been watered a few days ago or been watered just a few minutes before. the point to watering more often is to have more nutrients encountering the root system. not sure why you say its about frequency not volume then go to say that small plants dont need that much moisture. the amount will be the same that is retained just provided more frequently. the reason i say some people is because i dont do flood and drain so i cant speak for it on my own parts but it is done by many people. i personally hand water every other day since its too much work to water daily but it can absolutely be done. i get my information from a great grower and breeder from ICmag that i can guarantee outgrows all of us coco users.
Snow Crash
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Please, link me your grow with any form of evidence to this.
I have PLENTY of coco experience and I know exactly what happens and how it works. You're off your fucking rocker saying that a young plant, with an immature root zone, cannot be over watered. Anyone with any experience knows this is false.
littlegrower2004
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im not trying to get you all worked up so dont take it that way. not sure what part you want the evidence to but my grow is in my sig and the thread im talking about on ICmag is here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55683
if you have a fresh plant in a small pot like 2 inch then you can absolutely water everyday and not encounter over watering. it would be just stupid to start small plants in large containers and water excessively since you would be wasting a good 75% of the water and the roots would take a major time to cover the large area needed to absorb the majority of water that is being wasted. i dont like your attitude saying any one with any experience since its basically saying i dont have experience which i clearly do so id appreciate a bit more respect.
if you have a fresh plant in a small pot like 2 inch then you can absolutely water everyday and not encounter over watering. it would be just stupid to start small plants in large containers and water excessively since you would be wasting a good 75% of the water and the roots would take a major time to cover the large area needed to absorb the majority of water that is being wasted. i dont like your attitude saying any one with any experience since its basically saying i dont have experience which i clearly do so id appreciate a bit more respect.
Cali.Grown>408
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i dont know water does run through coco pretty fast..thats y they say its hard to be overwatered but if you sat there like a dummy with a 10 gallon jug and just drained it for hours then yea lol
nas2007
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lets keep it peacefull man,
its true you can over water in coco, all they say about coco is it drains very well, but doesnt mean you cant over water em, if every one pays attention when they water you will relise that air gets sucked straight back in as your watering so getting air to the roots isnt a issue anyway, coco is the next generation to soil simple, its not perfeckt but much much bettter then soil.
starting in smaller pots has lots of advantages, one of them is you have a better control on watering, other is the roots form faster and much stronger and so on,
hope evry ones havin a good easter, (im not as ps3 network is down sins 5 days now lol) no more black ops!
ChroniCDooM
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What up people? Day 26 of flowering for my LSD and Blue Mystic. Pics are from day 25. Both in coco using canna nutes and atami bloombastic with co2 and loving it! Love da CoCo!
Blue Mystic Bondage lol:
LSD:
Blue Mystic Bondage lol:
LSD:
vdubb808
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Concerning Over Watering in Coco:
This seems to be an issue at the moment. I'm not a super star grower and only have 3 coco grows under my belt. But this is my experience, my 1st coco grow was watered by hand and it was only 4 plants. For me I thought it took too much time to mix, water & maintain plants/room.
So on my last 2 grows i used flood & drain table for 12 plants on the second and 16 on the 3rd grow. And my plants did very good all the way. I flood my table twice a day during flowering for 20 minutes and 3 time a day for 15 minutes during veg. So from my experience it would be hard to overwater coco.
I change my res every 2 weeks, until it's time to flush. So I never really had to worry about feeding and I could focus on other things within my grow environment. I would spend only 15 to 30 minutes a day in my grow room. Which has really made my GF and baby a lot happier, whichs equals to happier plants.
I Love COCO...............
This seems to be an issue at the moment. I'm not a super star grower and only have 3 coco grows under my belt. But this is my experience, my 1st coco grow was watered by hand and it was only 4 plants. For me I thought it took too much time to mix, water & maintain plants/room.
So on my last 2 grows i used flood & drain table for 12 plants on the second and 16 on the 3rd grow. And my plants did very good all the way. I flood my table twice a day during flowering for 20 minutes and 3 time a day for 15 minutes during veg. So from my experience it would be hard to overwater coco.
I change my res every 2 weeks, until it's time to flush. So I never really had to worry about feeding and I could focus on other things within my grow environment. I would spend only 15 to 30 minutes a day in my grow room. Which has really made my GF and baby a lot happier, whichs equals to happier plants.
I Love COCO...............
littlegrower2004
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both you guys are doing real well! ive been thinking about getting some bloombastic seems like a lot of people like its effect. chronic that LSD looks like a keeper for sure, nice structure to it!
nas- good to see you back buddy havent heard from you in a couple weeks it seems like. like you said that air is brought into the coco when watered so thats IMO why its not possible to overwater, since overwatering has to do with suffocating the roots with water without a good oxygen exchange going on.
dubb-sounds like you got a good system working out for you. it is a bitch to water by hand and i wish i could set up a drip system or go to flood and drain but i dont have the room for that now but some day i will for sure. coco has made me a happier man for sure haha!
nas- good to see you back buddy havent heard from you in a couple weeks it seems like. like you said that air is brought into the coco when watered so thats IMO why its not possible to overwater, since overwatering has to do with suffocating the roots with water without a good oxygen exchange going on.
dubb-sounds like you got a good system working out for you. it is a bitch to water by hand and i wish i could set up a drip system or go to flood and drain but i dont have the room for that now but some day i will for sure. coco has made me a happier man for sure haha!
rfun
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So your growing in Coco and your flooding tables? How do you do it like ebb and flow type deal? Just curious cause I do run to waste with Canna Nutes.
vdubb808
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Exactly, ebb & flow, using smart pots. Nothing complicated.
rfun
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And do you use Canna Nutes? How is it working out for you this way and how many grows have you done this way? Just tryin to find a better way cause I hand water!
Sorry just went back a page and seen your post pretty much answered these questions. Any chance you can post some pics would love to see your set up!