Dmannn's legal NCA Rec. Grow

A shot from today. I have been working against a surging white fly population in the area, not necessarily on the plants but, So far the plants have not been slowed down. I use neem and insecticidal soap with all allow and EWC juice, sometimes dawn soap. They are bushing well and today I decided to water them and give a weak nutrient solution, even with the heat I am only watering once a week.

I love your whole setup! I'd love to be able to grow outside.

reallybigjesusfreak said:

I love your whole setup! I'd love to be able to grow outside.

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Thanks man. It is a lot of work with big plants, but the pay off is amazing. I am very happy about the low about of water the plants are using. I know that will start to increase as the weather gets warmer. there was a slight breeze today which is always good for pest control. Dealing with a new environment comes with different pests is a bit of a inconvenience but if it wasn't white flies it would be something like caterpillars or mold. I got on spaying early and even purchased some Nematodes today. I have some other lady bugs and praying mantis on the way to deal with any eggs that are left behind.

The nematodes when in last night with some water. I also topped about half of the plants, washed them down and gave them one last shot of insect soap, neem and kelp/aloe.

I did some clean up today, I weed wacked the grass and weeds around the pots, sprayed neem on the fresh cut \foliage. Sprayed Neem on the trees, roses, grass, and bushes in the yard. I also gave the plants a trim under the canopy and eliminated any fan leaves with evidence of yellowing or insect bites, ect. A nice breeze today. The plants look good and have fresh strong growth as always.

I think i am going to cut the lawn as well. I think the "organic" back yard has been attracting most of the pests. The roses need a trimming back, as well, but i will wait until the wife give the go ahead.

Dmannn said:

I also added some aloe vera juice in with the mix. I have been foliar feeding with coconut water at dusk. Neem and diamaticious earth earth for pest control.

If any one has any advice or some next level experience to help out that would be nice. I haven't selected a Kelp liquid yet but also haven't found something the has stood out.

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You need to keep the grass away from the containers, some green house floor covering keeps it from growing up around the container,
The reason for this is so bugs cannot easily migrate from the grass to your plants, maybe around the outside of the grow area use some powdered time release bug deterants ,
There is a bug and mite killer made in Oregon that is organic , it is expensive , but no where near as expensive as losing crops, the name of the product is called method one.

max420thc said:

You need to keep the grass away from the containers, some green house floor covering keeps it from growing up around the container,
The reason for this is so bugs cannot easily migrate from the grass to your plants, maybe around the outside of the grow area use some powdered time release bug deterants ,
There is a bug and mite killer made in Oregon that is organic , it is expensive , but no where near as expensive as losing crops, the name of the product is called method one.

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Thanks for the info man , i really appreciate it.

Some updates. The weather cooled off again so the white flies started to come back with a vengeance! I was prepared and applied some Tempo dust lightly this morning on them and around the area. I didn't want to but, i had no choice. I have been washing the leaves and picking off dead/dyeing/or infested leaves and spraying them every day with combinations of organic treatments with was no effect on these little pricks. I am going to leave the dust on until it heats up to 98degF for about a week until they receive the next feeding, it is a bit windy so i am hoping most of them will be taken out and the tempo dust dissipates over the coming days. I will also have to scrape the dust off the soil as well before feeding water to keep the residual Tempo dust to a minimum, I hope i don't not have to re-apply. I probably will though.

A shot from this morning. The tempo is working as desired. Just waiting for the temps to climb.

They look great dude!

DankTankerous said:

They look great dude!

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Thanks buddy! I appreciate that.

You are doing a great job brother....keep up the good work.

I did some gardening today. Removed more damaged leaves but, the number is decreasing. I also topped a couple plants back. I have been avoiding it, trying to give the plants relief from the infestation in the area. They are recovering. I took some soil moisture tests and I think they need to be feed/watered tomorrow. I brushed off the top soil in attempt to decrease the amount Tempo water leaching. I added some liquid nutes to the ready made AACT.

The Tempo seems to be holding them off as I only find a couple dozen or so around when i disturb the plants in the morning and evenings. The morning plume of white flies is decreasing in the yard, they are coming from the yard tree (fairly curtain its is a fruitless plum) that is creating the shade in the picture. I can't cut it down, nor would i want to but, i did prune some of the branches back. The pants are going to make it. I just need to keep up with them and stick to the schedule of disturbing the foliage and washing down the other plants in the yard in the mornings. This tree is another story, I have been blasting it with water during he hottest parts of the day in attempt to flush out any remaining white fly "gangs" exposing them to the midday heat and UV rays. The plumes seem to be getting smaller in size and less menacing in their look. The good news is the forecast calls for some 100+ temps here in the sac valley but, weather/com said that last week and the week before. Indian summer i guess. but still great for a lot of people out there.

I know the plants are somewhat stunted. I'm even contemplate pulling one of them depending on how well it recovers in the next couple days after feeding. I feel it is on the positive side of the edge of becoming a refuge for these flies instead of a MJ plant. It is stressful. I have had worse stress in my life. I am just trying to make the right decisions, so for i think i have. Just bummed about the in ability to deal with the white flies "naturally" But it is what it is. I have dealt with pests in past "naturally" without exception. But the area I am used to growing in is much more arid much sooner. I am also surrounded by flood irrigation farming. Many crop-dusters flying over head. I know this is a contributor, now. Not 5 months ago when i was planning.

My wife and i have planned a trip to the Portland area. One of my relatives and friends lives there. My relative is having a baby. I think it will be best if we still went. I need some air. California has really drained the life from me recently. I'm not sure I am ready to settle down yet.

I watered and fed them yesterday. Here are a few pictures from today. They are starting to stretch out. I hit them with another shot of Diatomaceous earth. They seem to be recovering well. It seem to be heading off these bugs as the heat goes up. It was about 99 yesterday and the flies were trying to escape it. I topped a couple heads. I will probably top a few more later today after i remove the last of the damaged foliage. I bought some "bird netting" i am planning on cutting it down to 5x5 and then tossing it over the top. I will later secure it with some bamboo sticks. As the plant grows i will add another larger piece. I don't plan on using more than 2 a plant.

24 hrs after feeding and topping. Noticeable growth. Temps are still rising, I will check the soil moisture content early evening, I may need to water again by Friday.

Talking about teas, I have found two methods of making tea. The first method involves mixing all of my ingredients and bubbling and stirring for about 36 hours, at that mark the tea will "turn". By the constancy of the water, the smell, and the surface action off gassing, I can see that the tea is ready to be diluted and administered or have nutrient added to it and promptly administered.

The second way is I add one ingredient at at time separated by a 24 hour period. At each phase of the AACT changing in the basin I add one more ingredient to the tea until about 72 hours has past. At this point I add nutrient and wait another 12 hour period and administer.

There are a lot of people that say that is too long of a time. That the tea does not gain anything beyond a 48 hour period. These methods work for me. I haven't had a tea "go bad". Sometimes they smell a bit too pond scummy and i might use them on some other plants but, each tea is helping as marked growth is seen ever 12 or so hours for a few days after feeding.

Sometimes I use one tea to inoculate another fresh water basin and then add more sugar nutrient although, I have not done any work with wheat/oat brans/ corn mashes. However I m aware that the second part to my nutrient program does have "bran" as a listed nutrient. This happens to be the flower nutrient. Some some deductive reasoning is there. I haven't looked into "fugal teas" . Maybe this year i will. i do have wheat seed that can be ground up and used as a powder for a fungal tea. One of the ingredients I use has some fugal additive to it and may work as an inoculant.

I was a hot one today! The plants did well, I finished the day topping some of them. I think the super cropping portion of this grow is about over. I will still ty to get any out having branch pulled toward the center. No major bending as the plants are now putting on some weight in foliage. I typical do not super crop later in veg because of stalk breakage. I m waiting on the netting to tie in the plants. The yellow sticky traps are working well in conjunction with the DE. It is interesting to see the change in bug populations as the temps change.

I have been looking into no till methods. I have used these pots many times before and have turned them over to reveal some massive mycorrhizal activity. Little did i know that leaving these pots open to natural grasses and weeds to take hold in the off season and then reuse the soil later was in effect creating a no till fungal environment. Much of the soil was reintroduced in the areas where the grows were happening improving the soil strata. In a small blue oak grove with a small meadow in the center. Quite a pleasant place.

In my reading and video watching i have been looking at Effective Microbes. There are a number of methods of rice washing and milk introduction. I assume people have been putting together brews of special nutrient. I can see how this may be very effective at boosting compost output, and aid in soil cooking or activating long tern nutrient in soil. EM seems to correct soil nutrient lockout issues and PH imbalance issues. Some amazing gardens are to been seen gong down the path of EM videos. I think i may try my hand at this soon to see if it can be helpful in this years grow.

Dmannn said:

I was a hot one today! The plants did well, I finished the day topping some of them. I think the super cropping portion of this grow is about over. I will still ty to get any out having branch pulled toward the center. No major bending as the plants are now putting on some weight in foliage. I typical do not super crop later in veg because of stalk breakage. I m waiting on the netting to tie in the plants. The yellow sticky traps are working well in conjunction with the DE. It is interesting to see the change in bug populations as the temps change.

I have been looking into no till methods. I have used these pots many times before and have turned them over to reveal some massive mycorrhizal activity. Little did i know that leaving these pots open to natural grasses and weeds to take hold in the off season and then reuse the soil later was in effect creating a no till fungal environment. Much of the soil was reintroduced in the areas where the grows were happening improving the soil strata. In a small blue oak grove with a small meadow in the center. Quite a pleasant place.

In my reading and video watching i have been looking at Effective Microbes. There are a number of methods of rice washing and milk introduction. I assume people have been putting together brews of special nutrient. I can see how this may be very effective at boosting compost output, and aid in soil cooking or activating long tern nutrient in soil. EM seems to correct soil nutrient lockout issues and PH imbalance issues. Some amazing gardens are to been seen gong down the path of EM videos. I think i may try my hand at this soon to see if it can be helpful in this years grow.

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Have you looked at making lacto bacillus, or ferments?

Looking good!

DankTankerous said:

Have you looked at making lacto bacillus, or ferments?

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Yes, those are what i am talking about. With the temps as high as 104F i should able to brew one up a a week or so.