Do you count flowering from 12/12 switch or when you see pistil hairs?

guitarzan

guitarzan

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I'd wait until you see no more clear trichomes...but you'll likely have a few amber ones, but if all are milky, cut her down.
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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If everyone uses the same standard everyone stays on the same page, you want to change basic details then your only kidding yourself, it takes start to finish regardless so let's all keep counting from flip.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Star Dog said:
If everyone uses the same standard everyone stays on the same page, you want to change basic details then your only kidding yourself, it takes start to finish regardless so let's all keep counting from flip.
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Except we aren’t changing basic details. Instead we are suggesting that you actually pay attention to basic details the plant shows you. During the “preflower”,”transition”, or “stretch period” the plant grows very differently then during the flower period, and requires the correct treatment.

You don’t consider an outdoor plant to be in flower until it begins to form flowers. Growing a plant indoors doesn’t change that biology, and doesn’t make you god. The plant still isn’t flowering until it forms flowers.
 
JustBlazin

JustBlazin

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Was thinking about making a thread asking this last week.
Cause I have always counted from the start of 12/12 but they are never even close if I go by the breeders description of 8 weeks or what not.
It can't be a coincidence that that they are almost always about 2 weeks off on all descriptions.
So I am going to start counting from the first hairs are seen and I bet the breeder recommendations will be almost spot on.
If you go by the breeder recommendation and start counting at the day of flip you are cutting your plants before they are ready, more than likely leaving more thc and better yields on the table.
Just my 2 cents
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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Thundercat said:
Except we aren’t changing basic details. Instead we are suggesting that you actually pay attention to basic details the plant shows you. During the “preflower”,”transition”, or “stretch period” the plant grows very differently then during the flower period, and requires the correct treatment.

You don’t consider an outdoor plant to be in flower until it begins to form flowers. Growing a plant indoors doesn’t change that biology, and doesn’t make you god. The plant still isn’t flowering until it forms flowers.
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It still takes start to finish regardless, so whether it's inside or out it's irrelevant.

can't we not all speak a common language?
 
DrOgkush

DrOgkush

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I feel like flowering should be re categorized into stages vs weeks or days. Just because of the confusion. Like the pre flower and stretch.
As well as the form of clusters and buds.
Then the packing of weight and ripening of the flower.

Idk after so many years I just kinda let time go by. And I always lose track anyhow or I forget to mark it down. I also started to notice that 10 weeks fucking flys by before you know it after so many harvests.

I mean shit. Looks at us outdoor growers that are starting flower now. Just yesterday we were starting seedlings for year.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Star Dog said:
It still takes start to finish regardless, so whether it's inside or out it's irrelevant.

can't we not all speak a common language?
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Yep inside or outside is irrelevant that’s my point. The plants biology doesn’t change. The biology is the common language. Actually paying attention to what the plant is saying in its language is how you understand them and become a better grower.

Doesn’t it make much more sense to acknowledge the processes the plant is actually performing instead of just trying to lump them all together and call it the same. This allows a grower to dial in a grow and provide the best environment and nutrition for their garden.

Doug Dawson said:
I think the best way to say this is stop counting either way. The plants will get done when they get done, they don't read breeder claims and they don't care what you count. They will run their natural cycle, whatever that is, unless the grower screws thing up somehow. View attachment 4964626
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This is spot on and usually my final approach to the subject. I stopped counting days or weeks many years ago. I grow my plants until they tell me they are finished and then harvest.

DrOgkush said:
I feel like flowering should be re categorized into stages vs weeks or days. Just because of the confusion. Like the pre flower and stretch.
As well as the form of clusters and buds.
Then the packing of weight and ripening of the flower.
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Look into the growth stages of other plants. This is actually how the growth and maturation of most plants is categorized. For some reason stoners think Cannabis is different and decided to lump everything into just veg and flower. Ignoring the finer details of the plant biology for the simplicity of ignorance.
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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Thundercat said:
Yep inside or outside is irrelevant that’s my point. The plants biology doesn’t change. The biology is the common language. Actually paying attention to what the plant is saying in its language is how you understand them and become a better grower.

Doesn’t it make much more sense to acknowledge the processes the plant is actually performing instead of just trying to lump them all together and call it the same. This allows a grower to dial in a grow and provide the best environment and nutrition for their garden.



This is spot on and usually my final approach to the subject. I stopped counting days or weeks many years ago. I grow my plants until they tell me they are finished and then harvest.



Look into the growth stages of other plants. This is actually how the growth and maturation of most plants is categorized. For some reason stoners think Cannabis is different and decided to lump everything into just veg and flower. Ignoring the finer details of the plant biology for the simplicity of ignorance.
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What are you on about acknowledging the process, who doesn't
acknowledge process were seeing them daily?
 
DrOgkush

DrOgkush

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Idc what other people do. Usually my friends are always constantly asking me for advise for their next step or key questions. Can I harvest? I tell em all the same shit. The day you focus on the plant and not the days of the week and month. Is when you’ll start growing good bud.
 
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DoobieDoobs

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I count from the 12/12 switch. I have one now on day 92, and another that looks like she will take past 100 days to be ripe. Next time I'll know what kind of journey I'm getting into.
 
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DoobieDoobs

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DrOgkush said:
I feel like flowering should be re categorized into stages vs weeks or days. Just because of the confusion. Like the pre flower and stretch.
As well as the form of clusters and buds.
Then the packing of weight and ripening of the flower.
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It's truly fascinating to watch these plants go through phase to phase.
 
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Mattcheck

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Hydrotron said:
when you start the 12/12/ is when you start counting. But harvesting "early" is entirely up to the grower. Use the count to know when your about ready then Use a pocket microscope and check the trichromes to see if your actually ready for harvest. Good luck. you can get one at radioshack for around $12
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Remember radio shack lol
 
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Beastmodechit

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newcayney2008 said:
I cut part of my banger Bruce fast. From seedsman. This will be the only plant I grow from now on.! Got it down! I will always take advice though. Does anybody I know when I should cop it? Still growing and has white hairs. But I don't want it to go Amber.
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Where'd your leaves go! lol
 
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