First Grow...Scared & Desperate...Advice Please!!

AimAim

AimAim

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lxrsd said:
i got this really big leafs which are like solar panels absorbing all the light and distributing all over the plant but i don't need any more distribution.
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How do you know what "distribution" your plant wants or needs? What does that even mean?

The plant has evolved over a million or so years and is very well adapted to growing all by itself without your helping, by stripping off it's leaves.
 
lxrsd

lxrsd

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Ok so my plants are 6 weeks old and they in MG and i have only been giving them plain balanced PH Water and they started to turn light green on the lower leaves but they told me not to add nute since MG its time realease. What can i do about it and what type of deficiency is this? i suspect is magnesium.
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lxrsd

lxrsd

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BBbubblegum said:
Honestly it looks ok. I'm thinking a slightly overwatered. Feel free to cut some of the dead leaves off. Easy on the nutes too
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I watered them every 3 days 2000ml, plain ph water. i think they under watered. but the upper leafs are turning light green and it just started happening. am i underwatering them? plus should i add nutes cause i have a feeling its going to spreed.
 
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Ninja Mechanics

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I agree BBbubblegum... Let the soil dry out more before watering, don't worry, the soil can become very dry before causing the plant any issues, in fact it is beneficial to the life of your soil and plant to let it dry out in between watering. Dry/wet cycling plays a large roll in the chemistry of your soil and plant, stabilizing the pH through a natural process.

Split your watering up into two doses, 10-15 minutes between each dose.

What type of water source are you on?

What are you using to adjust the pH of your water with?

The tips and edges of the leaves are where most of the water is transpired(evaporated). The yellowing is caused by to much water transpiration at the tips and edges.
^^in some cases, not necessarily your case. Looks like a deficiency caused by lockout, due to having to much water(assumption based on observation)
 
lxrsd

lxrsd

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Ninja Mechanics said:
I agree BBbubblegum... Let the soil dry out more before watering, don't worry, the soil can become very dry before causing the plant any issues, in fact it is beneficial to the life of your soil and plant to let it dry out in between watering. Dry/wet cycling plays a large roll in the chemistry of your soil and plant, stabilizing the pH through a natural process.

Split your watering up into two doses, 10-15 minutes between each dose.

What type of water source are you on?

What are you using to adjust the pH of your water with?

The tips and edges of the leaves are where most of the water is transpired(evaporated). The yellowing is caused by to much water transpiration at the tips and edges.
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I'm using regular tap water letting it sit for a day so the chlorine evaporates and i'm using general hydroponics premium buffering to adjust PH.
 
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Ninja Mechanics

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Chlorine can evaporate but there is another enemy in there called Chloramine, it is harmful to plant cells and is also harmful to you. Keep in mind you will be smoking that plant(I assume). It can not be aerated out or evaporate. I would recommend filtering your water with a carbon based filter. I realize it is not always an option for everyone but I always recommend it. Aside form Chloramine, there is plenty of other crap in tap water you should be concerned about accumulating in the plant.

Do you have a meter to find out what TDS your tap water is running at? If you are under 150 PPM you should have no problem using the water as is. If you prefer to pH your water, I would always recommend using something more natural. Lemon Juice, non-filtered Apple Cider/juice, Grape juice, etc. The more sediment the better. Those little particles of fruit sediment act as pH buffering zones in the soil, they help stabilize the pH for fairly long periods of time. Depending on your choice it can even be more cost effective also. non-filtered Apple juice is more expensive than Grape juice, etc. Just depends on what you have access to.
Aside from the benefits of pH buffering, you also get various trace elements, some macro nutrients like potassium, secondaries like Calcium, magnesium, etc.
 
lxrsd

lxrsd

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Ninja Mechanics said:
Chlorine can evaporate but there is another enemy in there called Chloramine, it is harmful to plant cells and is also harmful to you. Keep in mind you will be smoking that plant(I assume). It can not be aerated out or evaporate. I would recommend filtering your water with a carbon based filter. I realize it is not always an option for everyone but I always recommend it. Aside form Chloramine, there is plenty of other crap in tap water you should be concerned about accumulating in the plant.

Do you have a meter to find out what TDS your tap water is running at? If you are under 150 PPM you should have no problem using the water as is. If you prefer to pH your water, I would always recommend using something more natural. Lemon Juice, non-filtered Apple Cider/juice, Grape juice, etc. The more sediment the better. Those little particles of fruit sediment act as pH buffering zones in the soil, they help stabilize the pH for fairly long periods of time. Depending on your choice it can even be more cost effective also. non-filtered Apple juice is more expensive than Grape juice, etc. Just depends on what you have access to.
Aside from the benefits of pH buffering, you also get various trace elements, some macro nutrients like potassium, secondaries like Calcium, magnesium, etc.
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omg thank you so much for your input. i have a TDS but havent used it since it has no battery.
 
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Ninja Mechanics

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Your very welcome.

I would suggest doing a side-by-side experiment with two-four plants or small clones. Give one or two pH'd water(using one of my recommended juices or something similar) and give the other(s) plain water. Observe and record! ;)
 
tikitoker

tikitoker

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I have to agree with over watering. Dont add any salts (your fertilizer) right now. Recover from over watering and allow your pH to even out, do this by drying out. Start lifting your plants and decide the dry weight from wet.
 
lxrsd

lxrsd

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Ninja Mechanics said:
Your very welcome.

I would suggest doing a side-by-side experiment with two-four plants or small clones. Give one or two pH'd water(using one of my recommended juices or something similar) and give the other(s) plain water. Observe and record! ;)
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Just tested the ph of the container which holds the water of my pot and it was extremely low 4.88. Growing with MG (NOT HAPPY WITH IT, SWITCHING TO FOX FARM) so its causing a lockup thats why my leaf are turning yellow and the ones on the bottom are dying and its spreading to the top. i know you in soil you need 6-7 Ph. How should i go about this? [1] should i wait until the soil drys up ( wouldnt they keep dying if i wait too long?) and flush [2] Should i flush with Ph water at 7. [3] Should i flush PLUS adding a little Sensi coco boom Part A & B to the plush? (only nutes i have since my other two plants are in coco and they growing fine). BTW sensi coco boom part A is 4-0-0 and part B is 0-4-5.
 
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Ninja Mechanics

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pH meters will often read very low when the medium is highly saturated with water. Part of a particular mediums pH control and balance(indoors mainly) is owed greatly to the soil drying out in between watering. That is one reason it is important not to over water or water to frequently(in most cases when growing in soil). When your soil is bone dry your pH meter should read fairly close to 7.

What is MG?
Fox Farms is a fairly good choice and can be altered to fit your set up and preferences.

Try not to sweat the number to much. Try to focus on cycling your watering/dry periods as best you can before adding any other variables to the mix. Some of the growth will continue to dry up, don't sweat it to much. If you start seeing yellowing and discoloration on or near the new growth, then you have some real issues to attend to. From what I can see your plants should be able to bounce right back for the most part as long as you just tweak your methods a bit in favor of the plant.

Your water should be high in pH, not always the case but generally it should be sitting at 6.0-8.0. Let the soil dry out, then water them evenly. If you can test the water somehow just to make sure you know where your sitting, you can better judge if the water would benefit from some adjustment. If the water's pH is at 8.0 or higher and your total PPM is above 150 your plant and soil will benefit from being adjusted a tad bit. I have run successful all natural grows using well water with a PPM of 350+ and a pH between 7.8 and 9.0. I had to use lemon juice to bring the pH down to a good level which cleared up many of the issues that were going on at the time. Rule of thumb for me is if I mess something up or an issues arises, it is not in yours or the plants favor to add anything further. Keep it simple as possible while troubleshooting. Alter one variable at a time is always good practice.
 
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

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Wait did you test your pH with? Test your water and your runoff water and if your runoff is coming in lower than 6.5 you're gonna have to raise the pH of your water when watering
 
lxrsd

lxrsd

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lol bro. that was almost 2 week months. my plants are big now. they facing another problem
 
tikitoker

tikitoker

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what do you have to reference your digital pH readings against? Get some paper pH strips!!! Make sure that you are calibrating and re-calibrating your digital, they have a tendency to give false readings.
Also man, pick up some compost and top dress a 2" layer. Lightly scratch in, and water in. The coco base nutes from AN "pH perfect" line should be used with RO water, and nothing else.

Why are you growing in ''MG"? and fertilizing with a coco nutrient? Sorry to say bro, that's your problem, your in peat and need a different fertilizer.
 
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