Fox News vs Rollitup.org - what's the difference?
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CrackerJax
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Obama will be a lame duck after November. He will either have to do a "clinton" (abandon all plans and run to the middle), or have gridlock for his remaining two years.
This is why there is such a push on major issues.... the deadline which seemed to be in 4 years, has turned into 2 years.... by their own hand no less!
It's hysterical.... never has a party come in with such strength and completely blown it!!! Funny...but sad for the country. The ppl deserve better. Better is coming folks.... soon.
Not a solution.... but anything will be an improvement. Cracker LOVES gridlock!!! The citizens BEST protection!
This is why there is such a push on major issues.... the deadline which seemed to be in 4 years, has turned into 2 years.... by their own hand no less!
It's hysterical.... never has a party come in with such strength and completely blown it!!! Funny...but sad for the country. The ppl deserve better. Better is coming folks.... soon. Not a solution.... but anything will be an improvement. Cracker LOVES gridlock!!! The citizens BEST protection!
doc111
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The party in power always loses seats in the midterms..............always! How many they will lose remains to be seen. It has been a long time since the country has been so divided. Regardless of what network's news you watch or what polls you've seen, the reality is that a lot of people oppose obamacare. Some of fhe polls show a slight majority oppose it. Some show a slight majority in favor. Either way you slice it is bad for the dems. Thank your glorious leader for that sad fact.
This sort of massive legislation being passed in the manner it was angered a lot of constituents. They won't forget so quickly. Even if obamacare is the wonderful fix that the progressives claim, nobody will see any benefit before the elections so heads are gonna roll! As for Cracker having way more posts than you.............he obviously spends more time on here than you. Duh!
CrackerJax
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I'm so alien strong.... they had to open up area 52.
intellisensi
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You know I was going to refute this but then I realized that it's a quote, and you can't argue with a quote! Spoken like a true Fox News viewer. [Edit: That's not fair, even I watch Fox News occasionally to keep tabs on them, not everyone that watches Fox News' programming is an idiot, but that doesn't mean the opposite's true either.]
IAm5toned
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very true. alot of people on here are too young to remember or ignorant of the fact that national healthcare was originated by ted kennedy in the 70's, as his ticket to a presidential election, via the votes of the poor who had no insurance at the time.... wait.. that sounds awfully familair, doesnt it?The party in power always loses seats in the midterms..............always! How many they will lose remains to be seen. It has been a long time since the country has been so divided. Regardless of what network's news you watch or what polls you've seen, the reality is that a lot of people oppose obamacare. Some of fhe polls show a slight majority oppose it. Some show a slight majority in favor. Either way you slice it is bad for the dems. Thank your glorious leader for that sad fact.
As for Cracker having way more posts than you.............he obviously spends more time on here than you. Duh!
who says history doesnt repeat itself!?!
the sad thing was, if ted k couldnt do it,(pass healthcare, not get to the presidency) with his connections.. obama was fucked before he even thought of running on a healthcare/change ticket.
maybe he knew it anyway... who knows? not I, nor you
Near
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God, you're so dense. I was being extremely sarcastic, it couldn't have been more clear.
I didn't put any words in your mouth. I was obviously responding to what the protesters think, and I made that clear. I'm pretty sure you can't sue someone because of your own inability to read properly.
A very poor excuse. If you're going to state a ridiculous standard for "representation" then at least have the courage to stand by it.
You're stupid.
Ease tempers? You're the one that seems worked up, not me.
I'm well aware that a majority of Americans would say that elected officials are not in line with their own beliefs, which is quite comical since they're the ones who elect them. But that is another issue entirely, you're conflating two very different senses of the word "represented". What the tea party protesters claim is that they are not being represented in the sense of the British colonists before the Revolutionary War. That is why they wave the Gadsden flag and use the slogan "No taxation without representation". And of course there's the fact that "Tea Party" is a reference to the Boston Tea Party. What you and these protesters don't realize is that there's a massive distinction between having no representation(in the case of British colonists) and having elected officials that you didn't vote for and disagree with(in the case of the tea party protesters and Obama).
medicineman
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I'd sure like to see some credulous back up to this rant. In my humble opinion, the exact opposite does occur. If left un-regulated, IE the Massey mine fiasco for example, capitalists would stop at nothing to expand their profits at everyone elses expense. Pretty much how the world works now with very few exceptions, unless a government regulator steps in and halts their idiocy. Believe it or not, government has a role to play in society, and stopping unfettered greed at the workers expense, or the consumers expense (Tainted food products, lead in toys etc.) is a key role.
CrackerJax
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Yes, cutting back everyone's potential to make $$$ for themselves always makes a country stronger. Uh huh.....
Better seal off the borders at some point...because the TRUE producers are going to leave you with ur high ideals.
Better seal off the borders at some point...because the TRUE producers are going to leave you with ur high ideals.
Patrick Bateman
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The funny thing about this all is that the right wing deity Ronald Reagan enjoyed almost the exact same ratings as Obama up to this point
Reagan, who cut taxes in the top bracket from 70% to 28% over 7 years, increased the national debt from $700 million to $3 trillion.
During the Recession of 1982, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act was enacted - a 3 year $100 billion tax hike, the largest since WW2
Excise taxes on cigarettes doubled and those on telephone services tripled - temporarily
In December 1982, the unemployment rate stood at 10.8%
2 years later, thanks to deficit spending and lowered interest rates, all the angry people forgot about the recession and Ronny was re-elected
The End
Reagan, who cut taxes in the top bracket from 70% to 28% over 7 years, increased the national debt from $700 million to $3 trillion.
During the Recession of 1982, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act was enacted - a 3 year $100 billion tax hike, the largest since WW2
Excise taxes on cigarettes doubled and those on telephone services tripled - temporarily
In December 1982, the unemployment rate stood at 10.8%
2 years later, thanks to deficit spending and lowered interest rates, all the angry people forgot about the recession and Ronny was re-elected
The End
doc111
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medicineman
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Uhhh, you mean wall street thieves like you?? I say good riddance. Make money profiteering illegal. What is it that wall street boys really do?? Oh that's right, they make money right out of thin air. They bet the market will go up, then short it on the way down. Gambling with everyones money. Like the "Bailout", they make money when it's good, and when it's bad, we the peoiple bail their asses out. They got bonuses??? they should have been shot.
IAm5toned
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you sound like a stalininst.
tinyTURTLE
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no he doesn't. he sounds like most of us.
CrackerJax
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PB had abdicated any sense of intellect.... that didn't take long at all.Med man isn't a Stalinist.... just incredibly uneducated.
ink the world
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That was no mistake, they capitalized from the intentional loss of others. They are thieves. Period.
Patrick Bateman
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Lol, where did I go wrong?
Share with the class
CrackerJax
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Keep reading abc and usa today..... sigh.... you need some sources son.
Obama came in on the high....and has slipped ever since. Reagan had a Democrat controlled Congress and media against him.... Obama has the OPPOSITE. Obama has gotten EVERYTHING he has wanted and to great media fanfare.... and no one CARES.... Obama cannot stop the slide no matter what he says.... and the more he talks, the less ppl believe him.
He's certainly no Reagan.... there may be some number alignment...but the context behind those numbers couldn't be farther apart.
Also, Obama is the most divisive President I have have been around. he is constantly talking trash in public...assailing ppl and industries....like a Chavez. Look back at ANY President and try and find one that talked anything like Obama.
He has no class. A President leaves that to others. A president is supposed to represent ALL the ppl. Obama LOVES to single ppl out..... shallow.
The ppl are done with him (taxpayers only of course, not the hobos)....they are done with Congress.
Foreign policy is in tatters after a year....allies no longer trust us....our enemies no longer fear us....they see the weakness....everyone does. Iran will have a missile capable of hitting the US around 2015.... not long. Obama has completely abdicated Iran. he will abdicate Afghanistan too.... just wait.
I could put up a mighty list.... but what's the point now? Congress will be shaken up completely soon....and Obama will be out in 2 years.... then the country can rebuild...and repeal the damage...it will take years to undue...but it will be done, if not....we will be the biggest banana republic ever. A fine legacy for Obama.
Obama came in on the high....and has slipped ever since. Reagan had a Democrat controlled Congress and media against him.... Obama has the OPPOSITE. Obama has gotten EVERYTHING he has wanted and to great media fanfare.... and no one CARES.... Obama cannot stop the slide no matter what he says.... and the more he talks, the less ppl believe him.
He's certainly no Reagan.... there may be some number alignment...but the context behind those numbers couldn't be farther apart.
Also, Obama is the most divisive President I have have been around. he is constantly talking trash in public...assailing ppl and industries....like a Chavez. Look back at ANY President and try and find one that talked anything like Obama.
He has no class. A President leaves that to others. A president is supposed to represent ALL the ppl. Obama LOVES to single ppl out..... shallow.
The ppl are done with him (taxpayers only of course, not the hobos)....they are done with Congress.
Foreign policy is in tatters after a year....allies no longer trust us....our enemies no longer fear us....they see the weakness....everyone does. Iran will have a missile capable of hitting the US around 2015.... not long. Obama has completely abdicated Iran. he will abdicate Afghanistan too.... just wait.
I could put up a mighty list.... but what's the point now? Congress will be shaken up completely soon....and Obama will be out in 2 years.... then the country can rebuild...and repeal the damage...it will take years to undue...but it will be done, if not....we will be the biggest banana republic ever. A fine legacy for Obama.